Print suggestions plz !
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- Louno
Hi,
I need to do a a business card for a friend, i did the design here :
there will be 2 versions, one black and one white, ( white for general , black for owners/employe )This needs to look GREAT... i want the card to give good quality feel.
So this is what i was thinking :
1- Use pantone instead of cmyk, i only use black and white and a little grey.
2-use .15 thickness so the card is very rigid
3- make it matte
4- maybe have paper where the fingerprint is beveled OR maybe use thick ink that could make the shape bumpy without having the bevel on the other side...Anyways please give me some recommendation, like for the pantone , i dont know if its going to make any real difference either cmyk or pantones... also should i use 2 pantones , 1 black, 1 grey, or use 1 pantone black and make it 70% for the grey...
Thank you all !
- duckofrubber0
Double-Hit of Black, nice cover stock like Kromekote (or a maybe a silky matte), Spot Gloss Varnish on the black or just flood the whole card, greys will be screens of the black, print local so that you can see it for yourself.
- Louno0
Ok, like i said i dont have much experience in print, so i dont know all those technical words hehe...
what is Double-Hit of black ... my guess is that... you apply the ink twice... to make it darker i guess ?
i do that with pantone ?Also what is spot gloss varnish ... i guess its a varnish only on some specific spots... you think that having some gloss on the black would be good ? me i was thinking matte finish so that the black would look black , when you have gloss it reflects light and usualy i find that on most business cards taht i have glossy looks a bit cheap...
Anyways thanks for the input :)
- duckofrubber0
Yes, double hit makes it denser, by applying the ink twice with the same plate. You can do that with just the process black (the K in CMYK) or a Pantone Black, such as 426, although that may be overkill.
If you have a lot of screens (percentages of a color), then you may opt not to double hit, due to possible ink gain, and just go with the single darker Pantone Black.
The spot gloss varnish will make the black even richer. If done by a proper printer, this combination will look really nice, and the black will 'pop'.
Cheaper 4C online printers will flood the sheets with an Aqueous coating, and that may be what you have seen that 'looks cheap'. Aqueous, if done correctly can look nice and shiny, but for gang-run jobs, it is usually to cover up misregistered plates, making edges somewhat fuzzy.
If you are going for a matte feel, and no shine, then go on and skip the gloss varnish and make sure to get a nice silky smooth matte paper stock.
Best thing to do would be to find a local printer you trust, explain your job, and ask for their recommendations. I'm not an expert by any means, so it's best to ask one!
- Louno0
ok, so you think gloss finish would be better ?
also, youre saying that double hit is only good if i go with cmyk, if i go with pantone color the black is already dark enough. right ?
also ive noticed when i do cards with grey color in cmyk , the text is kinda "fuzzy" its not full grey you see little dots and that makes small text hard to read, how do i prevent that ?
- spendogg0
use some thermography (raised ink) it will give the fingerprint some texture.
- spendogg0
also simplify your paths on the fingerprint - it looks auto traced
- Louno0
it was auto traced from my finger hehe... but its true i should simplify it a bit by hand but its long and im doing this for free sooooooo maybe.
- skt0
Matt black card on good stock with a clear varnish for the finger print.
Matt white card on good stock with a clear varnish for the finger print.
Jobs a goodun.
- Louno0
what do you mean by a "clear" varnish ? you mean make the fingerprint glossy ? and keep the card matte ? thats what i was going to do i think but add some thickness to the finger print so that its bumpy.
- skt0
yeah, it would make the finger print glossy, but don't have it reversed out. Say you are using the middle set of designs, which are the strongest by the way, for the black one, all matt black with just a clear varnish for the fingerprint. Makes it that much more subtle.
- Louno0
SKT , ok yes the middle ones are the one i was gonna use , and i agree for making a different type of finish for the card and the fingerprint. What do you think about the ideal of making the print stand out using thick ink, or bevel paper
- skt0
Yeah, that could work nicely. Just don't have a white print on a black card and vice versa.
- Arran0
You may want to consider that using a varnish is not going to be cheap, so if budget is an issue then its something to think about.
In case you havent been told what a varnish is yet (i havent read all the replies) it is a clear glossy varnish effect on selected areas (-you designate where-) of your printed object, in this case your card. Personally id steer clear of a varnish - there are infintiely unimaginative business cards out there that think that a clear varnish will solev make them look snazzy. I think that a pantone black on a nice uncoated stock of card would be nice and understated. If you have a budget to burn for this though, an ineteresting alternative to this to consider is to 'duplex' the card - a plain black back (200gsm?) with all info printed one side black on white stock. The black and white cards are then stuck together so that when you look along the depth of the card you will get an intersection of balck and white. Again, it is another fad, so id be wary. (As would the clientsd wallet too proabaly)Anyhow, theres my two pennies worth. Feel free to disagree.
Did you buy that font that you have used for this project? Fancy loading it up for download squire!?
p.s: Thermography is a good idea and quite cheap! Some hign street printers will do it.
- Louno0
what thickness size do you recommend ? i was thinking .14 .15 ...
- Louno0
bidybidybump
I wanted to ask also, what font size should be used , i always have that problem, sometimes i find that when printed the text looks to big or vice versa hehe
- Rand0
emboss the fingerprint instead of printing it