Hillary
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- Mimio0
I dislike her because she fell for the whole "Gulf of Tonkin" bullshit surrounding the Iraq invasion, exactly why a Washington insider shouldn't be president. It's a game to these people.
- She didn't fall for shit. She voted that way for political reasons. It was painfully apparent then as it is now... for those where attentive and choose to remember.jellyneck
- those who were attentive and chose to remember.jellyneck
- Sorry, that's "choose" to remember. Anyway, she knew what the fuck she was doing.jellyneck
- AndyRoss0
The problem with Hillary is that everyone either hates her, because she is such a whiner, or they hate her because she is who she is, or they hate her because she is Bill's wife (cheated on, without remorse).
So, if she's elected, she could be a disaster because she has no judgement. Or she could be a disaster because she does something crazy because she wants to show up Bill. Or, she could be a disaster because she is so hated, that no one, Republican or Democrat, will talk to her.
I don't know. I can't see her being a success in the White House.
- BonSeff0
she represented well on the daily show tonite
wish she was more real in the debates
- sputnik20
i'll vote for her if she pulls this face the whole time she's in office:
otherwise, not so much
- utopian0
"Let's stay in Iraq for another 50 or 100 years" - John McCain
- ukit0
All I can say is does Clinton 2.0 come with a gradient and a shiny table?
- flashbender0
bumping so she can compete with Obama on the PVN as well
- 53feet0
all i have to say is 24.
b/c that's how many years the US will have been in control of only 2 families. bush, clinton, clinton, bush, bush... clinton again? I hope not. This isn't some Asian dynasty we live in.
- Another fun fact: Every US president since Carter has been either a member or closely related to a member of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission">Trilateral Comission</a>.ctcliff
- Trilateral Comission http://en.wikipedia.…ctcliff
- byname0
Common guys don't be that naive. This is just modern concept of totalitarian democracy. Someone remember Jean-Jacques Rousseau ideas? :).
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enjoy
- cosmo0
HUCKABEE!
- *mutters, shakes fist, vomits bloodRandd
- you know he is the one. stop denying it.cosmo
- accepting is your only choice sir.cosmo
- I can't wait till the rapture wipes all the scum off the streetsRandd
- You're turning into a troll...Jaline
- was rapture the tornadoes?cosmo
- i have always been a troll, spread half a sentence of non sense and leave. that is me.cosmo
- I don't know...Jaline
- that what they should name street sweepersBonSeff
- a huckabee?cosmo
- flashbender0
^ Mentos for VP! (the fresh maker)
- Jaline0
^ summarize, please
- TheBlueOne0
OK, for all you kids who are too young to really remember what life in America was like under the culture wars of the 90's between the Clintons and everyone else, let me quote in length (apologies) a standard right wing screed against Clinton:
"Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. - Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume’. Sounds more like an organized crime family’s rap sheet."
It was THAT polarizing. It was far more than "Clinton got a blowjob" although that sold because you know it's politicians having sex..
I liked Bill, still do. But after 8 years of Bush the last fucking thing I want is a Clinton 2.0 revival in the White House.
- Sounds pretty much verbatim what the Bush White House has been up to, just change the names.GreedoLives
- Bush is far, far worse....TheBlueOne
- Thanks for posting that TBO, brought back memories of my childhood!tommyo
- Jaline0
By a few people, not everyone. But political discussions are always like that, so carry on.
- Jaline0
I think she may be more conservative than how she is perceived to be. I can't pinpoint it, but she is definitely polarizing, and you can tell by the way people either hate her or like her. It's not necessarily a bad thing, in my eyes, but yeah, there's a lot of hate for her here.
- she was president of her high school and college's republican groupsRodimus79
- yeah like 40 years agomrdobolina
- monkeyshine0
I think yur just mad because you realize that Hillary could kick your ass.
Seriously though...regarding statements about Hillary being "a polarizing figure", please explain that? I feel that we sometimes run about spouting these sound bytes that we hear without really understanding what we're talking about. What is it specifically about her that you think is polarizing?
And the same thing can be said about Obama...people who say " the country isn't ready for a black president" and so forth. Stop saying empty crap that is being spoon fed by the Repubs.
I think it's pretty exciting for the Democrats to have Hillary and Obama...they both put the Republicans to shame.
- Polarizing means she will ignite partisan warfare again if elected. There's a long history there.Mimio
- Meeklo0
Response #3 [Feb 5, 08, 8:32 p.m.]
pr2: Dude, she might be worse then Bush.I would like to know what were you thinking when you posted that answer please. Thank you.
- utopian0
Don't have a cow, she has NOT won anything yet, Obama is right up her ass with delgates, he can still take her easily if wins PA, Ohio and Texas...
- C'mon! Having a cow is what makes this fun....TheBlueOne
- April 22nd! I will be helping out with the campaign as well. :Dflavorful
- TheBlueOne0
It's all the SUperdelegates that Put Hillary over the top:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/…
And who are the "superdelegates"? All the partyline dems who have been behind all the Democrats losing for the last 8 years. The democrats know how to steal elections too...