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- VectorMasked0
sorry I'm just assuming you are in InDesign noob.
;o)
- Well, I've used InDesign a ton, but I haven't used it for giant publications before so I didn't know this detail. Thanks!SigDesign
- VectorMasked0
*It is imperative you use styles.
This way you can just go to the particular style in the palette and make a minor change and all the content in your document will change at once. Even if you have 200 pages. Think of the page numbering. You will set up the page numbering in a master page, and this text should be set up using a particular "style" you will set up initially in your palette. Now imagine, you decide at some point that you 8pt text for your page numbering looks a bit big and tight. IF you just adjust the page numbering style you had already set up in the palette, and change the 8pt to 7.5 and the tracking to 10, all of the 200 pages will change instantly.
- VectorMasked0
SigDesign "Where did you get that?"
_______If you are using indesign, first of all USE paragraph and character styles. If the text will depend on paragraph breaks you will need to use a "paragraph style". If we are talking about text like the page numbering or the capability of changing particular words to a particular style, then a "character style" is appropiate.
To get that stuff from the image above do this ->
1) Open your paragraph and characters styles palettes
2) In the tiny arrow, choose "New paragraph Style"
2) once the tiny window opens, choose "justification" from the list of options and bingo, you will see that to adjust the settings.
In this window you will also create all your setting, such as font choice, leading, tracking, indents, possibly color, ligatures, etc...
*In reality it takes a lot of time to justify text and make it nice. Could be hours of work! But do it anyway, you'll only learn once you start doing it.- <- Assuming you have InDesignVectorMasked
- sweet... thanks VectorSigDesign
- VectorMasked0
*That was horrible.*
I am myself working on a magazine. I have the body copy to justified. I had to spend a lot of time playing with the type to set a good space in between words and characters. Some elements like the editor's letter and stuff are not justified.
Very important things when setting type in this matter is by having a kick-ass grid that allows you to explore and modify text columns rather easy. I have basically a 3 column grid that can be subdivided by itself in 2 or 3. Even the margins are relative to the measurements of the columns.
You have allow yourself to have plenty of white in between columns and lines of text, and pretty much all around your type.
Contrast between the main text and small headers are very important.Space if the key when justifying.
- MrOneHundred0
I came to the conclusion that if you have to argue the fundamentals of written communication, you are on a fool’s errand. It’s like arguing with a child.
- < This is in response to the above post, not the thread in general.MrOneHundred
- Amicus0
"each sentence starts a new paragraph"
I too hate this, and usually ask the copy supplier if they've ever wondered why there are both sentences and paragraphs.
Logic. It's not just for Vulcans
- akrokdesign0
then when its done, you can show it off at "recent work" thread.
- I'm more an editor on this one... don't have full control of the designSigDesign
- johndiggity0
some good references imo are the wall st journal, financial times, and ny times. ft especially.
- MrOneHundred0
Not justified, IMHO. You should aim to have about 40-50 characters per line for multiple-column work, so let this dictate your type size.
I do quite a bit of publication work and the standard of copywriting/journalism is on the slide, so be wary of things like text being supplied so that each sentence starts a new paragraph. If I have to argue this point anymore, I’m going to punch someone in the throat.
- We decided today to go with non-justified columns, so you guys are giving me lots of greatSigDesign
- reasons to explain whySigDesign
- 100 I couldn't agree with you more. What's with one sentence per para?pylon
- Be fucked if I know. Yet I have marketing types arguing that it’s right and always has been.MrOneHundred
- I never heard of that... strangeSigDesign
- SigDesign0
Ours is more editorial... interesting about the news pieces on NY times... Thanks for the advice!
- johndiggity0
content can dictate too. ny times uses ragged for op/ed and full justification for news pieces.
- akrokdesign0
- I wouldn’t wipe my arse with that.
(I don’t like to get black in around there).MrOneHundred - haha. i know. that what google found. :-)akrokdesign
- the sad thing is someone actually did it.akrokdesign
- I saw that on Google, too... yikes...sometimes people come up with uncool bizarre thingsSigDesign
- I wouldn’t wipe my arse with that.
- johndiggity0
check the column width. usually tighter columns can handle the full justification without odd breaks and spacing.
- that's true... these columns are rather large cause it's a 3-column formatSigDesign
- akrokdesign0
justify text gives you rivers. stay with left ragged.
better to force a new line if needed.
you can also do some tracking. don't go more then -5. and upto +25- That's what I was thinking... the justified just looks so crappy with the hyphenation and allSigDesign
- pylon0
Totally up to you then I guess!
I suppose it's pretty copy-heavy? Pick up a couple other mags and see what works and what doesn't.
- pylon0
Do you have any of their other print collateral to compare it to? What have they been doing in the past? Or is this a new mag?
- SigDesign0
It's an education magazine for the college.. I noticed New Scientist is ragged...
- pylon0
Depends on the magazine.
My pref is ragged with no justification.
- SigDesign
Is it more standard to justify text in magazines?
I am editing one, and it has a lot of hyphenation and odd spacing that occurs with the justification...