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- jimbojones0
I'm waiting for a response from Peter Schmidt, they did the redesign. But NotByHand, that is a brilliant observation, should've done that myself, but where did you get a good vector label?
- drgss0
zZZZ
- duckofrubber0
Well???
- jimbojones0
Well what?
- jimbojones0
Guess what? Nothing new!
- jimbojones0
I will bump it every day until I get either a solid proof that it's custom wor, or the name of the damn font!
- jimbojones0
Ha! You thought I'd forget?
- what did the typophile forum have to say?Jnr_Madison
- they ignore the thread...jimbojones
- Orbit0
The closest I can find is a new Berling Bold Condensed. It could be that, IT COULD BE THAT!
- pylon0
jimbo, I don't reckon it to be fully clearface.
Some of your letterforms look damned close but not all of them and look at the serifs — they look closer to some cuts of garamond or maybe goudy at the serifs, more old-style in any case. The serifs on Clearface tend to be a little slabbier in most cases, though the top of the A is a close match as is the ampersand. Maybe it started its life as Clearface but it's certainly not that now. Look at the R for instance, or the G.
So is it custom? Define custom. It didn't spit out of a foundry looking exactly the way it does now did it? It's customised, in any case.
Leave it at that or contact Beck's directly, go right to the top, and demand the truth and don't stop till you've gotten it. ;)
- Or just use Letraset Shatter®, its close enough.Orbit
- I suggested Nuptual Script but nothing. We're so undervalued Orbs.pylon
- huh?jimbojones
- nilsnihil0
is there an example of its use beyond the label?
- Nope. The actual copy on the label isn't Clearface at all, at first blush it looks like a Caslon or something.pylon
- Don't look at the shape of the serifs, look at the way the letters are constructed. Clearface skeleton.jimbojones
- I believe it started life as Clearface. The ampersand is so similar.Josev
- jimbojones0
I said it may be based on Clearface, maybe mixed with Utopia or something... On the label it is of course modified to fit the round shape, but there must be a starting point which may or may not be a known typeface.
Neither Beck's nor Peter Schmidt Studio reply :(
- pylon0
So why the burning need to know, beyond typographic curiosity?
- moamoa0
clearface is not even very close.
just because the M is a bit shorter?- Is Bodoni close?jimbojones
- Yeah marco, I agree. The form of the A the M the G are close-ish. Other letters aren't at all.pylon
- Clearface is likely based on any number of the classics so it's already close to other faces...pylon
- YESmoamoa
- Orbit0
Oh I just found out for you...
" The main letterform of Becks has been with the company from the early 1920's when it was established by our label printer in Bremen from his collection of decorative hot metal types. The other typefaces used were local cuts of the standard modern serif text types of the day and they varied according to the availability of each region's printer. At the start of the digital period we took a Monotype font called Bauer Ausgang and used Letrastyler to make it curve around the oval ends of our label. Not entirely satisfied we appointed a local typographer to adjut the serifs for a more harmonious result. Only those letters on the label exist"
There you go mate case closed.
- where did you get that?jimbojones
- I got it from ...Orbit
- ... I got it....Orbit
- *cues David Bowie.pylon
- ....erm...Orbit
- I....Orbit
- I can't lie, I made it up. I DID IT FOR YOU THOUGH JIMBO. YOU NEEDED "CLOSURE".Orbit
- thank you mate :) but the label isn't that old, no letrastyler could be involved ;pjimbojones
- orbit= heronilsnihil
- "It Came From His Arse"neue75_bold
- jimbojones0
- NOmoamoa
- even fonts like chronice are closermoamoa
- look at the ampersand. look at the CONSTRUCTION of the letters, the proportions.jimbojones
- moamoa0
- fuck it I am so good.moamoa
- Moamoa its frikkin miles off.Orbit
- exactlyjimbojones
- oh good for you!! you fucknig amateur!typist
- kelpie0
its a scotch roman innit not? kind of like a modern with more old stylee serifs?
- kelpie0
now I'm not saying its wither of these, these are just the ones I personally own, but do you see what I mean?
http://www.linotype.com/13498/sc…
http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/d…- Fookin miles offOrbit
- no, scotch modern are much "sharper", bigger contrast etcjimbojones
- that'd be why I said neither of these were it, Orbitkelpie