WHERE THE FUCK
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- moth0
So this is what happens without project managers...
Maybe these threads should be recreated on a spread for prosperity.
- Thanks for the support - I see you really appreciate all the work we've done on this project, for free...NotByHand
- ... all to help Patrick O'Brien. We've gotten a publishing deal with DGV, all costs donated, and have pretty...NotByHand
- ...much everything we need in place to put the book together. So, again, thanks for the kind words.NotByHand
- why so dickish, moth?magnificent_ruin
- wrong time to be a dick.Jnr_Madison
- posterity?Scotch_Roman
- did someone say "dick"?
:Dgentleman
- Point50
12a in Europe means the morning of... 12a here in Vegas means the night of...
:P
just a few hours away from being done. I honestly thought the deadline was tonight, not last night.
- Josh_D0
yeah, i thought it was sunday night at first.
- juhls0
You guys got confused by 12 AM, March 15?
Interesting.
- erikjonsson0
what was this for anyway?
- NotByHand0
^ "A Better Tomorrow" book.
- coco_ono0
Should I stay or should I go?
Can I still submit stuff or is it too late?
- WeLoveNoise0
lol mau u shit - "90% have already submitted" my arse
- pressure ;)Mau
- lol smart moveWeLoveNoise
- Thats why we call him Smarkodigdre
- ian0
I think moth is actually saying that without project managers designers get confused and miss deadlines etc, not that the book is badly organized. I'd like to think he's just ripping the piss out of us disorganized bastards.
Or I could be wrong.
- i find a diary helps here and thereWeLoveNoise
- I never met a good PM though, the ones i met, all unorganized, not in touch with the creative and yes men to the clientsKiggen
- the ones i met r u alying shits that dnt actually do half as much work as usWeLoveNoise
- moth0
Jesus... why's everyone so touchy? Does pointing out the chaos in here denote a lack of support?
I asked (and dozens of others) ages ago what this was all about and no one stepped-up to give a decent response. I continued to read the threads and I'm still none the wiser as to who's running the show, what the deadline is, where the spec is, and where anyone would go to find out. There's like 10 threads in here with "organisers' calling people cunts for non submission and these people are consequently claiming complete ignorance of being on "The List" in the first place. Personally I'd be pissed at that.
It's a total shambles, but the beauty of it will be pulling it off at all at this rate. So no. I wasn't joking. Put the transcript in for prosperity. It'll make for great comic satire.
- this should be the introduction to the book...coco_ono
- not for laughs though ;)coco_ono
- I'm the man in charge, so you can blame medigdre
- And i think it's "posterity"locustsloth
- I've got nothing to dish out blame for digdre. I'm just saying.moth
- i can't spell and be irate.moth
- but i messed up big time.digdre
- yes, trophies should be distributed for the counter-adversaries_salisae_
- don't be hard on yourself...it's the first one and for good intentions.coco_ono
- thanks, coco_salisae_
- janne760
it is good to see joshua davis is in.
hi, Josh_D!
- Mau0
Josh_d = joshua distler
I talked to Joshua Davis a couple of hours ago.. we will submit tonight
- we?Autokern
- very good!_salisae_
- what I thought, Smarkodigdre
- it's a collaboration?magnificent_ruin
- http://www.joshuadis…
http://www.joshuadav…
Mau - so you're saying i have until this evening?? sweet!coco_ono
- heMau
- NO ;)Mau
- ok, the sooner the better then.coco_ono
- ayeMau
- Jnr_Madison0
moth, everyone who signed up were directed to download the brief and template from the original thread. This answered 99% of people's questions (even although lots of people still asked lots of questions in these threads that were covered had they just read the brief). That's why when people enquired, they were told to download the brief, it was all covered. The concept of backups only came later, hence the slightly confusing nature of it.
- Marko (moamoa), Rene (NotByHand) Mike (neue_75bold) and Tom (digdre) are the ones who have put this together. Donating their time and skills to try and make this work. Hats off to them.Jnr_Madison
- put this together. Donating their time and skills to try and make this work. Hats off to them.Jnr_Madison
- I can understand how from the outside this may have looked unorganised. But we were all doing face palmsJnr_Madison
- every time the same questions were being asked that were all covered in the brief.Jnr_Madison
- is it late for me to enter?magnificent_ruin
- use the trap doorAutokern
- blaw0
@moth:
To be fair, when this was first discussed a number of members stated their willingness to participate. That group received a detailed brief and all of the necessary assets to proceed.
Considering every aspect of this project is volunteer, I have to say I'm impressed with the organization and sincerity with which the participants have taken on these efforts.
The current level of noise in the PV is just that—chatter.
- Organisation was top notch, i don't understand what you are talking about moth...Kiggen
- Like the chatter Jack Bauer picks up?Kiggen
- LOL @ Kiggen.Jnr_Madison
- Those threads just functioned as a direct helpline (where the hell you'll find this) and all the participants helped out each other in there.Autokern
- other there.With the usual PVN style, which is a thing you may like or not.Autokern
- Autokern0
By the way, when the book is expected to be ready, more or less?
- 5-10 daysmagnificent_ruin
- paperstock, weight, coated or uncoated?? ...DETAILS! ;)coco_ono
- metal paper and wood coverdigdre
- janne760
the patience of the organizers is tremendous. they deserve the utmost respect for that.
i would have dropped out of the organization a lot earlier, the sissy boy that i am..
oh, heavens,
i did,didn't i?