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- shinpo
I don't know if this has already been posted or not, but I would at least like to share it in case it has not.
http://www.nytimes.com/external/…
I am not sure why facebook thinks this is a good move. Sure some people might want the masses to find them on the interwebs, but there are a lot of young teens and pre-teens that use facebook that have no concept of sharing info on the web publicly and the dangers it poses.
I mean think about people being able to access childrens posts about school and having their email address and looking through their pics. It's utter craziness.
- iheartfun0
Wow that sucks! The whole reason why I canned myspace was because of the non privacy thing. Facebook is loosing its best feature! That really sucks. Although it is a whole lot harder to find people still but this might make it easier....
Damn you facebook!
- harlequino0
Just clicked through some friends' friend lists. I see nothing different.
- Khurram0
And by a click of a button you can go private again.
Fucking drama queens
*yawn*
- 7point340
there is a distinct, morbid possibility that flesh-eating robots will soon take over the earth, once and for all knocking humans from the top of the food chain, and THIS is what concerns you?
- *becomes "fan" of robots on FBharlequino
- ...7point34
- ... that's so crazy it just might work7point34
- We must join them. It;s the only way. We must. Take my hand.
*reaches out gloved handharlequino - *admires white sequins on harle's glove7point34
- *does simiultaneous moonwalk and robotharlequino
- hahahahashitehawke
- clearThoughts0
Fuck them - Twitter enabled people the ability to be an 'online Twat' without that much effort...
- shinpo0
Just curious "Khurram" if you really think an eleven year old kid thinks about pressing private again? For adults yeah it's that easy, but what about kids that don't think about future actions and consequences?
- time for parents to pay attention maybe?harlequino
- i agree with harlelocustsloth
- why is an 11 year old on facebook?7point34
- 11 year olds yes, 4 year olds no, 7 year olds with a reading age of 9 yes, 6 year olds maybe.Khurram
- *YAWN*Khurram
- i agree with 7.34locustsloth
- or on the internet AT ALL, unsupervisedlocustsloth
- exactly, i love how people love to blame everything else and no one ever asks them why they allowed it7point34
- + to the people who question the parents.juhls
- DrBombay0
You are supposed to be 18 to be on facebook. If a kid falsifies his age, who's fault is it?
- He shoulda gone to GetRefresh's little online lounge. They're all welcome there.harlequino
- That place is FUN!DrBombay
- its actually 13. the signup doesn't work unless you enter a birthdate equally 13+.horton
- Meeklo0
shinpo
Just curious "Khurram" if you really think an eleven year old kid thinks about pressing private again? For adults yeah it's that easy, but what about kids that don't think about future actions and consequences?The same applies to parents letting their kids doing anything far more serious than logging on to facebook, If you want to be a responsible parent, you look after your kid till he's old enough to take care of himself.
You dont let him borrow your car till he knows how to drive it.
You dont let him go out at night unless he is around someone you trust.
And the list can go forever..That's what being a parent is about, take responsibility for raising a child. You dont like him on facebook? either tell him how to change his privacy settings or tell him not to use it, done deal.
at 11 years old, being a boy its far more easier to google "hardcore porn" to have a good time anyways..
- scarabin0
schools should have internet classes for kids that teach about privacy, security, cool features, etc
- shinpo0
^Yeah that would be a good move.
You guys assume that I don't agree with you about neglectful parenting. Yes, all parents should be responsible for their own children and their well being, but the harsh reality is that the majority of parents just don't care.
The truth is also that the majority of people on facebook won't know the difference.
"By Facebook's estimates, every month users share 4 billion pieces of information--news stories, status updates, birthday wishes, and so on. They also upload 850 million photos and 8 million videos. But anyone wanting to access that stuff must go through Facebook; the social network treats it all as proprietary data, largely shielding it from Google's crawlers. Except for the mostly cursory information that users choose to make public, what happens on Facebook's servers stays on Facebook's servers. That represents a massive and fast-growing blind spot for Google, whose long-stated goal is to "organize the world's information."
So the underlying question is, "Why would they change the default settings in the first place?" I don't know the answer, but I assume it has to do with money as it always does.
The whole point is that people, just like you guys weren't aware that they changed the settings until I shared the link, are totally unaware that their daily lives including pictures will be broadcast for all the world to see, by default. Again, yes it is the responsibility of the individual and/or the parent, but I mean come on, the truth is most people, including adults still don't understand internet security and privacy or even take the time to care for their children the way they should. That is just the sad truth.
- kelpie0
shinpo, why bring up the mythical paedo bogey man when you have a perfectly valid point about general privacy?
- kelpie0
by the way is this just for new users, cos (though I admit I couldn't be arsed to read the article) I just checked my privacy settings and they are tight as a gnat's chuff. you know how tight a gnat's chuff is?
- horton0
when FB publicly announced this change (which is old news btw) i just made sure my profile settings were locked up.
i don't really get too worked up about facebook privacy. 250 million users announced today. i'm a needle in a massive global haystack. they can have my party photos.
that said, if this kinda stuff does freak you out, you really should read the story in this month's Wired mag; in a nutshell, Facebook is going after Google... their collected data from 250M users and counting could arguable provide a much more powerful and personal search engine than the big G's algorithms.
Great Wall of Facebook: The Social Network's Plan to Dominate the Internet — and Keep Google Out
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/…
- If i had a dime for every prediction Wired magazine got wrong...Khurram
- lukus_W0
> shinpo:
> So the underlying question is, "Why would they change the default > settings in the first place?" I don't know the answer, but I
> assume it has to do with money as it always does.I think this will be a case of killing many birds with one stone. These are ideas I that I think might have led to the decision:
By setting data access as public by default -> they are encouraging a culture shift, towards more openness on the part of users. I remember when myspace first debuted, I thought the idea of having conversations about social arrangements etc out loud was pretty undesirable .. but after a while, actually became more used to the idea. I.e users ideas of what's acceptable change and moderate according to what other users are prepared to do.
I am almost certain that the majority of younger users will not bother changing their privacy settings. Privacy is a dead concept for people of a certain generation - and I don't think it's even something that they aspire to protect.
Once data is in the public domain, it can (arguably) be mined and used for commercial purposes. While other companies will be able to use this data -> facebook will obviously be in control of the API's for access. They'll also have behavioural (click) data which is the thread that ties everything else together. I haven't read their EULA in a while, maybe this isn't possible at the moment -> but even so, it wouldn't surprise me if this changed.
This is pure speculation, but no doubt facebook has been approached by government agencies from many countries - and has been asked to give access to user's private data. This would present a set of scruples to most reasonable people. Perhaps setting data as open (public) by default, they're able to appease some of those who might be putting pressure on them by setting the bar low.
