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- PhanLo1
- 50% of nike's budget is advertising, so you're paying for the advertising, basically.sarahfailin
- The other 50% of Nike's budget is for the shareholders pockets.utopian
- ha tom shoes margins probably shame nike********
- But they make sneakers I like.robthelad
- It’s the cult of the sneaker. They’re sought after collectors items, some going for tens of thousands of dollars. How they’re made is irrelevant_niko
- Plus how much is kid labour and how much is robots these days?_niko
- i_monk0
What economists have gotten wrong for decades
Four economic ideas disproven by reality.
- shhh...don't tell the Trumptards this!utopian
- haha the minimum wage argument... wow. Is economy a thing now to write whatever for people to read and sell ads.That many ppl looking for false hopes in belei********
- i do love that it does mention the CBO as a bastion of mainstream economics... hehe********
- if anyone doesn't realize that shit is written for content with little grounding to reality. Its geared towards feelings for sharing.********
- It would be nice if they talked about the middle class destruction once in a while and not just the extremes.formed
- its always talked about formed. the middleclass is always the sacrifice in the extremes********
- not the focus, because the focus is the sell, those extremes that may benefit from such shit.********
- colin_s0
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-b…
A Pennsylvania school district that recently came under fire after threatening parents that their kids could be recommended to be put in foster care if they didn’t pay off their school lunch debts has turned down an offer from a local businessman to clear the debts, The Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
According to the local paper, the Wyoming Valley West school board rejected an offer from Todd Carmichael, the CEO of La Colombe Coffee Roasters headquartered in Philadelphia, to pay off over $22,000 worth of debt for local students.
In an op-ed Carmichael wrote that was published in the Wilkes-Barre Citizens’ Voice on Tuesday, the businessman said that he had worked with his team to “reach out to the school district to let them know we were eager to donate the full amount outstanding, reported as $22,467.”
“On Monday, we talked to School Board President Joseph Mazur to determine the best way to transfer the funds in order to wipe the slate clean and restore dignity to the 1,000 families who received these threatening letters,” he continued.
“Shockingly, Mr. Mazur turned us down. I can’t explain or justify his actions. Let me be clear: we offered over $22,000 with no strings attached. And he said ‘No,’” Carmichael went on to write.
- what an assBeeswax
- https://www.npr.org/…Beeswax
- they will accept the donations nowBeeswax
- there is so much idiocy in this article, beginning with the fact children in the public education system are charged to eat.colin_s
- just wow! someone doing well generously offers to help and the district turned it down until it went public. that district has to be corrupt.capn_ron
- I anyone else horrified that people who can't afford food are being shaken down? Why doesn't the district feed those kids?! wtf.zarkonite
- Idiot nation. It really is short term thinking.PhanLo
- I used to not like La Colombe. Then I started drinking them. Now I love themcannonball1978
- haha. regain dignity to deadbeats not paying for services. nice to see focus on issue without looking for a PR stunt handout. Stunt clearly doesn't fix the issu********
- colin why do you think someone should get free lunch? think that is what is of importance********
- free lunch is great. free homes great, free shit period is great. but where does free shit come from and where do the costs go we ignore.********
- poor people have more hope and less defense. they are the perfect prey.imbecile
- @deathboy making sure kids are fed is a basic thing we should do for each other. We'd have to be all kinds of losers to admit we can't afford caring for kids.zarkonite
- Free school lunch, paid out from the regional tax = all children are on an even footing, and poorer families are supported. Or should just keep the poor poor?shapesalad
- Hope when you are all 50 years old and can’t get a job because no one hires a designer aged 50, that you can still pay for your kids school meals.shapesalad
- zarkonite free food for all kids defined by what age and paid by whom?********
- if that is the goal say the cost and who pays. and be specific********
- curious if someone without a child should pay? no one pays for my hobbies that give me the good feelies, yet i pay for others********
- is that fair? but that breaking down who actually will pay an costs********
- Everyone gets a lunch. Easy. And please note I never used the word free, I grew up in a retarded socialist regime and I know better than to use that word whenzarkonite
- discussing handouts.zarkonite
- well than you should be very considerate of the cost zarkon knowing its not free. The end is easy, the payment not so much as you should know from such regimes********
- so how do you control price of lunches coming from the regime? who are do you nominate to sacrifice?********
- There's already plenty of knowledge out there on how to feed people. This is the silly part, you already paid to know how to do this. But now you have shittyzarkonite
- administrators on the ground that can't figure out how to execute. Learning is an investment, and it will have a positive ROI in the long term. Especially for azarkonite
- place like West Virginia who was built with resource extraction, it'd be good for them (IMHO) to get some education to get out of their funk.zarkonite
- and I'm assuming you agree that hungry kids won't be able to sit in class and learn?zarkonite
- I have to ask, your federal government has a budget of 4.4trillion. When you say who's going to pay, do you mean to say you think ALL that money is well spentzarkonite
- and can't be redirected to things like this?zarkonite
- jesus christ, deathboy, the answers to all your questions are publicly available because they're all actively in play in US schools nationwide right nowmonospaced
- The idea of free lunches for low income students has been around for my entire life and yours. It's not a new proposal without planning, etc. Fuckin' hell.monospaced
- You clearly didn't go to any higher education. Based on your absolute ignorance on this, it seems like maybe you were homeschooled too?monospaced
- @mono I wonder if he understands how insurance works, or how expensive road infrastructures are. He doesn't like paying for others as if no one paid for him...zarkonite
- "theres plenty of knowledge on how to feed people" .. yea i wont invest on that response. nor on your calling out poor administration of funds********
- what you describe is a turd that only drains more funds from private individuals with little interest. simply wrong********
- i pay my road fund in gas tax by the way. NV is one of the states with the better road programs. but still EVs dont pay. probably need to rewrite rules********
- that tax directly to usage. funny always the under handed trying to debase me on "paid for education" Whos the sucker there?********
- And as a kid who worked with his mom in the cafeteria I know plenty about "reduced" lunches and late payments. I know first hand about deadbeat parents********
- and my mom breaking rules to feed the kids. Giving extra and what not. A payout for PR only teaches parents to be more irresponsible********
- Or maybe that is what you are hoping for your kid mono. Be dead beat and hope people pick up slack. Your views reflect how you raise.********
- you seem to have such little life experience********
- and yet, I have more life experience than you ... are you married with children?monospaced
- also, your mom was a lunch lady? and you advocate AGAINST minimum wage increases? hearltess bastard!monospaced
- The fact your mom had to break rules to feed hungry, needing children, just points to the fact the rules need to change, ffs. You're so ass backward here, dude.monospaced
- i advocate against it yes. its takes real knowledge and not chasing greed or self interest. which is the point you miss.********
- knowledge that minimum wage hurts more than it helps. its a purely stupid arbitrary rule through gov. do you think a fed mandated minimum wage works for a small********
- midwestern town as it does in a larger city? to think economies are not living breathing unique things evolved from environments.********
- as far as kindness of my mom. just shows human element that doesnt need rules. you build rules you deteriorate that element. charity becomes resentment.********
- Also her working at school low wage was what she wanted. she valued her children. plus it also saved on food cost with us helping out serving.********
- she would think it an insult to look down on the wages for the work. that shit would be petty and superficial. another thing you should learn is********
- a lot of people make the money they make and if low have no issue. And quite sick of people who have never walked a day in their shoes trying to use them for pe********
- rsonal agendas. so lil experience outside your bubble man.********
- and that is why you will never reproduce ... it's funny how things just work outmonospaced
- @deathboy, why are you so quick to label people ‘deadbeats’? Do you know them all? What do churches do w/ all the money they collect? Should they just keep it?scruffics
- sometimes labels are a must in discussion. I'm totally fine with spending on "deadbeats" out of charity. Big difference from public spending.********
- I actually think churches and small organizations are better capable to sort out "deadbeats" than any public mandatory system with no discretion or value of jud********
- gement********
- see the thing is I KNOW i can't correctly evaluate everyone and judge wether they're a deadbeat or money is being wasted and better used on others.********
- i just support structures that enable charity to be dispersed the most effectively********
- And you are ok with churches paying no taxes?scruffics
- no im not really, but most culturally still beleive in the god shit and altruism. other take advantage of it. a bit fo double edge sword between idiots and game********
- rs of the system. And i think the non-profit intentions have and only are gamed these days by corporations. The idea that was there is no longer valid********
- however if you equalize the tax you might see people communicating a little more honestly with intention of efforts.********
- utopian2
- I wonder if a multinational pharmaceutical company came up with the Insulin Pen? ... #thingstothinkabouti...hotroddy
- Again, what the fuck are you talking about? It was invented in Norway where public spending per GDP on health is highest in the world.kingsteven
- I work in a University designing for Pharmacists, in labs doing research zapping cancers with plasma beams anything you want to know? shit for brains...kingsteven
- Research which is almost all funded by governments and later developed in to products by pharmaceutical companies...kingsteven
- what part of the insulin (produced in our bodies) pen (essentially a package/ branded syringe) costs $700?kingsteven
- The healthcare insurance wrapper.Nairn
- the analogs developed in labs paid for by tax payers are generate insane profit and doctors in privatised healthcare will not prescribe alternativeskingsteven
- so some poor fucker has to go and but cheaper insulin in walmart without the associated healthcare advice... how is that not completely fucked up?kingsteven
- Millions spent in R&D, lobbyists and reps but have nothing to do with how and why these products are developed. The link between profit and deaths is clear.kingsteven
- I'm embarrassed it's so pricey in Canada.i_monk
- Someone has to pay for the Scots, i_monkNairn
- so king you know the costs of development. why high consumer cost?********
- all i see is a cost in many countries spread, while US rule and regulations have created little competition. and an over consumption of insurance********
- makes for a sky high price on basic consumable goods. I********
- EpiPen - $8 to manufacture a 2 pack, available since 1977 (R&D costs long since recouped)... Bought by Mylan in 2005 when it cost $57 - they now charge $600kingsteven
- Because in the States they can charge what they want. In the UK the NHS buys bulk @ $69 per pen. And it's free to the end user...kingsteven
- (well £8 prescription fee in England, free in NI & Scotland)kingsteven
- <£80p/m out of my tax funds the NHS and would gladly pay more - Medication, Doctors, Hospitals, Ambulance all included.kingsteven
- And that's for everyone, not just me... I have mates in the states paying 10 times that for insurance with a fraction of conditions covered...kingsteven
- And our system would be better if it wasn't for American companies charging stupid money for drugs for rarer conditions that cant be bulk bought.kingsteven
- Where does the subsidy begin and end. Free market cost with free competition ( patents and licenses) is a bit different.********
- Like for example UK takes advantage of US pharmeuticals and we pay for it. but a big part deals with nationalized insurances and stuff that ignore market********
- principles. The problem to costs is over insurance. state run, subsidized, and what not. Such programs also in the US lean towards end of life care for profit********
- margins. extend life of someone already dead for 1-2 years results in nearly 200K. Also when insurance is over used it looks towards focused efforts in profit********
- margins. this does not change wether state ran or not. the only thing changes in state ran is more delay and stretch out costs for budgets more paper work********
- the biggest problem with health care is insurance and gov incentives involved with it.********
- the NHS don't subsidise drugs, the best drugs available (not generics) are free because that is the decent thing to do... the reason our system is inefficientkingsteven
- is because half-brained liberal wankers like yourself have been underfunding it for years and facilitating it's break up and sell off...kingsteven
- i mentioned norway, for a small amount more in tax revenue they have the best health system in the world. yes, it's that fucking easy.kingsteven
- and take your serfdom and racist BS your thinking about spouting about Norway's population and shove it up your hole it's BS... you have been brainwashed.kingsteven
- I don't think I've ever seen someone on QBN spout ignorant opinion as unsubstantiated fact so much as deathboy.
Don't waste your time on him, kingstevenNairn - hah, Nairn he doesn't seem like a bad lad... some people believe in a god that hates homos, DB believes in some elaborate economic version of "Man the fuck up"kingsteven
- and in both cases, I don't care what justifies your hardships and gets you through the day, just don't push it on the rest of us...kingsteven
- norway has oil money, only 5 million people, and highly educated monolithic country.hotroddy
- folks get upset when I mention venezuela but referencing Norway is more ridiculoushotroddy
- oh here's the other one right on cue... i'm talking about a small percentage increase in income tax contribution to properly fund nationalised health services.kingsteven
- the health service in Norway was only fully nationalised in 2002 and investment in infrastructure has centralised treatment in to specialised centers...kingsteven
- while the UK govt throws money at privately operated regional centres. the Norwegian approach is much more cost effective and improves patient outcomeskingsteven
- I've worked in the states and you guys pay more tax (well slightly less under trump) than the UK and get shit all for it. nationalised heath care,kingsteven
- public transport and postal services/ communications infrastructure is not an anti-capitalist or inherently socialist thing to wish for. it just makes sense IMOkingsteven
- " the NHS doesnt subsidize drugs" haha what is it they do than?********
- i will agree with your sentiment of not pushing shit on others though. you seem to not want my hardships... yet support others..?********
- what you like is me shoving my dick of hardships down your throat. the harder the better and more morally devout. what i need u give.********
- king another thing you can check out is how the a large amount of the biggest not for profits are ran by big pharma********
- they game the liberal systems rules lobbying foolish politicians for what sounds like "good" political soundbyte policy. However it is a anti-competitive measu********
- sure to subsidize costs while gettin larger profits from insurance companies. Subsidizing co-pays is hella lucrative.********
- hotroddy-12
- a_aNairn
- LOL, that's totally how socialism works.zarkonite
- let the downvoting beginhotroddy
- LolPhanLo
- What do you know...The same meme shared on Fox and Friends everyday for the past two years, then Epstein commits suicide.utopian
- he committed suicide over this meme? more reason to upvote it.hotroddy
- wrong threadfadein11
- -1 for terrible screenshot cropfooler
- Teach your kids about capitalism by making them clean the bathroomi_monk
- Then, pay them 10 dollars
Then take 7 of those dollarsi_monk - And give those seven dollars to their rich friend who didn't worki_monk
- I bet your child won't be a a capitalist for long.i_monk
- but i monk you just described socialism as well. probably the more realistic version of socialism. well maybe give 1 dollar to peopel and 6 to insiders********
- once you allow a state to tax with impunity and redistribute wealth, it doesn't matter if it goes to the connected or the poor. thats socialism.********
- doesn't this meme relate to Cortez (not even an actual socialist) suggesting a 70% tax bracket? that kicks in > £550,000 income. relatable content.kingsteven
- it's just so factually wrong, where do you start?kingsteven
- Look at Lula, Kirchner, and Chavez all 'socialist' and embezzled millions. Their creed is 'capitalism for me. socialism for youhotroddy
- Cortez is chavez re-incargnated. Same populist rhetoric. The white man's capitalist agenda is oppressing you and keeping you down.hotroddy
- deathboy: you forgot about profit margins. The parent as the employer takes $7 for himself and pays his employee $3 then take half of the $3 in taxes, but onlyzarkonite
- $1 from the employer because he's a job creator and deserves to benefit more from the labour of his workers than they do. That's capitalismzarkonite
- the employer deserves to be rewarded. he's taking a risk. why else would you start a business?hotroddy
- why do people world wide want to invest in US companies?hotroddy
- no zarkonite the 7 taken represents taxes. You dont pay 10 than take 7%. Leaving the employer with 3% as profit margin before costs of business which lessen it********
- the argument of the old 70% tax rate. But even after taxes if a job creator can only see maybe a 1% profit margin while risking everything is it worth it?********
- do you think many people will be employed if less job creators out there risking a lot for something worth it?********
- socialists think through high enough taxes they can create jobs and pay peopel to fullfill them outside market forces********
- you probably have a portfolio and understand risk. you wont get much gains in low risk investment. there becomes a point where the value isnt worth it********
- the problem with central planning for labor is they cannot determine what is of value efficiently and quickly to provide incetives to guide markets********
- historically they ruin them through political squabble creating such low incentives no one has incentive to carry anyone.********
- oh jeez.. screwed up my own base. Employer pays you 10 dollars. Employer cost on those ten are more like say 12-13 w/ taxes. 7 is taken from the government********
- leaving employee with 3. We do not know the profit margin of the labor. In this case not profit.. but as payer and taxer they take and redistribute labor to********
- others that didn't earn. splitting the 7 as tax to social program, universal income whatever you want to call it. the one earning wont be a scoialist********
- those getting free shit will be. sad thing is you can see how majority rule will work here with one earner and 3 siblings. why democracy fails and republics********
- work. for the most part... still have entrophy to deal with. but it make sense on dog level treat incentivitizing********
- entrophy isn’t a word. It’s entropy and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ECONOMICSmonospaced
- Physics and economics are separate fields and aren’t related. One is natural the other is not. One based on laws the other not.monospaced
- @hotroddy - you hate the corrupt individuals, stop blaming the system.fadein11
- jeez mono triggered by spelling? :( . Curious who told you economics is not natural? True markets are as natural AF. The problem is in the alteration of markets********
- is there a set entrophy(trigger tigger) to any system? Is a market a system? Could entrophy be the gov and regs that eventually ruin a free system?********
- do you really not see how it all works together even after explanation. i get before. but after? you haven't even expressed a rational hangup.********
- we humans are matter correct? we have energy and expend it correct? A closed changing system in which transfer from a ehalthy system can only be direct toward********
- unhealthy.. or some say equal, science says inert which have quite different meanings. You dont need to talk physics to talk systems and if you google economic********
- and thermodynamics you see im not making shit up. ppl have come to some same conclusions. dont get caught up in the details, its abstract thinking********
- deathboy you are an absolute looper. most people get through their liberalism/economics... phase when they're in their teens.kingsteven
- you're taking something like thermoeconomics (which models human behaviour top down) and twisting it in an attempt to prove a logical existencekingsteven
- bottom up... you're picking and choosing theories simplify your agenda. try a bit of self-examination, altruism, understanding of other perspectives ...kingsteven
- to me it seems that the views you express in theory support equality but assume an equal start in the race... it's not that simple and if your not continuallykingsteven
- examining your own privilege and understand altruistic aims of socialism - to support the weakest in society first there's no conversation to be had.kingsteven
- @fadein. Socialist policies lead to corruption. The power bureaucrats hold over businesses will corrupt inevitably corrupt them. humans are all falliblehotroddy
- ha my agenda is truth. @king you had me altruism. show me such a thing is not a selfish independent desire. And in theory i do support equality in an equal race********
- you seem to think your godlike central planner hand can alter the race to be fair. taking from some and giving to others. no reason to it. Just whim.********
- if anything age has taught me how stupid an idea that is. what infallable central planner is needed outside any balance of power to decide?********
- As far as my privilege.. the only privilege i have is being born in the us. im white trash as fuck and earned everything i've achieved.********
- and have you ever thought of basic darwinism when trying to support the weakest? or ever increased economics impact of negative gains?********
- humans have some concepts where they get selfish feelie dopamine hits chasing self defeating concepts. what you are chasing is one of those********
- these concepts are built in logical fallicies in language to describe and perceive the world. if you look at lesser evolved species you see they dont suffer********
- from such BS. with greater intelligence comes greater responsibility. and unfortunately gov+educators not helping********
- hell explain how supporting the weakest is good for society understanding basic darwinism, or do you prescribe to the meek will rule religious doctrine which********
- socialism is a derivative of********
- mate, you are fucking brainwashed by 20th century anti communist economic ideology. i've explained multiple times that i'm not a socialist.kingsteven
- a while ago you're trying to use thermoeconomics to prove your point, a massive part of what modern economic theories have shown is that homo-economicus is BSkingsteven
- not only are you talking through your asshole your perpetuating theories that are destroying the planet. these theories may have struck a chord with you becausekingsteven
- you're not a terrible person that feels powerful but needs to justify being a cunt to make a dollar. please read a book published after 1950.kingsteven
- *powerlesskingsteven
- Economics aren't natural, markets aren't natural, and thermodynamics has NOTHING TO DO WITH ECONOMICS. Entrophy isn't a word.monospaced
- wrong again. laissez faire economics is so natural it's bordering on darwinism.hotroddy
- @kingsteven - I live in California (liberal state) and you are correct that I pay as much taxes as my canadian brotheran. Public transportation is the shits.hotroddy
- My checks get lost in US post office - only good and reliable for the 3 pounds of daily junk mailhotroddy
- my point is I cringe to see what public healthcare would look like. We are not Canada, and not Norway.hotroddy
- trust me it's better than your shack of shit system.fadein11
- 'laissez faire economics' don't function though. Adam Smith never imagined an Absolutely Competitive Market. Gov't needs to pay for everything capitalism can't.Nairn
- /won't.Nairn
- king you say im wrong but you cant seem to articulate why a single pint i make is incorrect. where did my reasoning fail?********
- like state why altruism is real thing devoid of self interest? Throughout history can you name the perfect central planner? Or best outcome you have seen so we********
- can measure in stance to our current standards and look wether its worth it?********
- And also explain why so many central plans have failed and doomed civilians to poverty and despair?********
- Definitely need to look at success rate and failures and see what is the difference. One big one is nordic systems praised rely heavily on free market economics********
- where huge failures took free markets out of the picture and tried full control. You say Im wrong, but you need to back it up with some substance. you cant just********
- say youre wrong.real world doesnt work that way********
- maybe you think I'm unwilling to accept any social safety net. Im ok with a small one and one that doesn't encourage any dead beat behavior. and with any********
- safety net one must be concerned a blowhard expanding such net for votes is likely to happen. I have no solution for prevention of that except red tape********
- but altruism has nothign to do with such intentions. its quite selfish. ill pay school taxes without having kids because it keeps them from looting me while at********
- work and hopefully keeping a strong foundation however edu, especially higher is worse than church on sunday.********
- and even that is jsut a rationalization for tax taking. do i really want to give up 200 a month to others kids daycare? If i had the choice i'd keep it and put********
- razorwire and a healthy dog with big teeth. i think the way you see the post 1950 rhetoric is brainwashing of cake and eating it too. ignoring the individual********
- and focusing on the collective similar to pre 1950s, just not many rationale voices these days that can say things any better than the past.********
- king you also seem accept real equality, but waver in terms of those born without certain tools. Many also born with tools that flounder as circumstance.********
- seems to me an emotional response devoid of reasoning. wanting the best for everyone and having a hard time letting go it wont happen********
- and mono you truely have showed your small understanding declaring markets are not natural. i expected as much********
- but im pretty positive im only giving you value through argument. like king i also hope for more but need to accept some ppl are worthless********
- and will never improve which is what really bites me in the balls. the idea if given every opportunity to improve and never happen.it hoenstly makes me want to********
- write you off. as lower class. a sentiment i can see amongst differing classes. however. to write off is to have blinders. rather not go all hamptons.********
- but you sure do make it hard with your non sense. I cannot implore you enough to truely look at what you think you know and why you think it********
- okay, maybe you are just a cunt. no person is worthless. and mono is spot on with how he's trying to explain but honestly if you claim to have read any modernkingsteven
- economic theory and haven't come to the conclusion that laissez-faire economics has failed. i'm not sure i can help you.kingsteven
- maybe it failed for you.hotroddy
- haha failed modern economic theory. a new age way of saying i dont know shit how to respond********
- king if you agree with mono that economics is not natural as physics please explain. id love to hear your reason********
- when you simply say no no no i just will never accept that cowardice, reminds me of ppl scared of homos going no no no. ideas that are scary********
- Economics deal with money, which is a purely human thought concept. Laws and constants that control and bind the universe are not.monospaced
- Money and economics could disappear tomorrow and there would be no real impact. Alter even one aspect of physics and the universe doesn't exist anymore.monospaced
- economics deal with much more than money mono its a social "science" and its aspects are bound by the same physical laws we see in science. the problem is think********
- ing we are above it and can control it like baking a cake. demeaning its true role and what it is. Money and economics cant disappear, and if perception of it********
- did it would have a huge impact. Im not saying its as easily alterable as physics. im just saying as natural as physics and physical laws********
- some politicians do think it can be easily altered. but such alterations exude great energy in closed environments and not practical********
- hell basic econ 101 is darwinism based in a rule of law society with a form of value with high liquidity that can not easily be altered.********
- here you go basic econ mono https://www.youtube.…********
- and entertaining********
- and mono. if the economy went away and you wanted a little food. how do you get it? Purchase it with stocks? Abstract wealth that doesn't matter. through out********
- history societies have gone through econ checks that you think don't matter. those who survived have a bit more common sense about what is necessary to survive.********
- i still think goethe nailed it. and value is only what you can hold and protect that provides********
- real problem is people trying to discuss things they cant even keep up with. full of set opinions but no idea how they even got them.********
- yeah, you... you fucking toolkingsteven
- uh huh king. u did notice you didn't even argue a point about modern economic theory vs laize faire. Go read some hayek make an arguement against it********
- your "modern" is nothing new. Greek and romans both tried it. It didn't end well... Did you ever read goethe?********
- That shit wasn't as old as romans and greeks but late 1700s early 1800s is quite old to explain the idea of MMT so well. and its method is beautiful.********
- NBQ001
Welcome to life, boy....
- i_monk1
- The rich couldn’t stop the fires in their own back yard - in California.Gnash
- 1. Bolsonaro was democratically elected. If you want find REAL authoritarian fascists in the Americas look to your LEFT. There are plenty.hotroddy
- 2. Don't politicize the deforestation for your own political convenience. Take a look at what the leftists thugs in south america have done to the amazon:hotroddy
- https://via.news/sou…hotroddy
- https://www.google.c…hotroddy
- But this doesn't get reported because it doesn't fit the political agenda.hotroddy
- Gnash – They could by making changes to agriculture and suburban design. 99%I had an interest episode about this a year ago.i_monk
- hotroddy – Hitler was democratically elected too, you pile of shit.i_monk
- Ah, I see what you meanGnash
- oh snap! Godwin's law for the win!hotroddy
- why bringing up the left? i_monk said nothing about partisan ideals....inteliboy
- bolsonaro isn't a 'fascist goon'. a the real authoritarian gov'ts in Latin America are on the left.hotroddy
- haha @gnash... remember give it to kanye he protected his shit with some very basic thinking.********
- utopian1
The leaders of Corporate America are cashing in their chips as doubts grow about the sustainability of the longest bull market in American history.
Corporate insiders have sold an average of $600 million of stock per day in August, according to TrimTabs Investment Research, which tracks stock market liquidity.
August is on track to be the fifth month of the year in which insider selling tops $10 billion. The only other times that has happened was 2006 and 2007, the period before the last bear market in stocks, TrimTabs said.
- well the greedy investors who know nothing of markets and put money into them out of tax incentives with "promises" of future riches by any 401k manager...********
- probably the worst of the greediest. blindly chasing wealth with no effort not realizing the true risk of such a feat. not even aware that they fuel the system********
- s they hate and blame like a teapot calling the kettle black. but most the sovereignty they give up doing it. probably the worse for it while the big********
- boys know better to an extent, but they will also soon realize bleeding the lil piggies dry leaves them vulnerable to populist socialist swings that can vote********
- and put people in positions to completely nullify property rights and steal wealth for own gains. gotta have balance********
- yup, we do, and for a long time now we've been giving handouts to the wealthiest and taking from the middle/lower classes.formed
- It's time that America and Her citizens receive benefits from the wealth we all created.formed
- hmm formed i question the "benefits of wealth we all created part? Are you supporting the nullifying property rights and wealth grab?********
- i hope not. that ideology currently and historically creates such misery. prefer realization and focus on change to problems.********
- Pers, passive investment, tax incentive handouts. So much more to focus on negative incentive behavior.********
- well the greedy investors who know nothing of markets and put money into them out of tax incentives with "promises" of future riches by any 401k manager...
- Beeswax0
A little bit on the conspiracy side but Central banks are leaning towards a digital currency to be used as a world reserve currency in the future.
"Unusual remarks and actions by the outgoing head of the Bank of England and other central banking insiders strongly suggest that there is a very ugly scenario in the works to end the role of the US dollar as world reserve currency. In the process, this would involve that the Fed deliberately triggers a dramatic economic depression. If this scenario is actually deployed in coming months, Donald Trump will go down in history books as the second Hebert Hoover, and the world economy will be pushed into the worst collapse since the 1930s. Here are some elements worth considering."
- Debt prisons for everyone. Woohoooo!PhanLo
- not debt prisons its about abstract value of what something is worth. Objective reality to a field strongly ignoring basic reality. How much value does********
- that paper being pushed have when called out.********
- Money is already pretty abstract, it only has any meaning if you're poor.PhanLo
- hehe true true. personally i was hoping for QT and a economic decline. Now I think its a race to the end and a big reset.Tangible assets all that is worth a dam********
- utopian5
Good Oldé Capitalism at Work Here Folks
God Bless Big Tobacco and The GOP for their All Their Support!
#ThoughtsAndPrayers
- in this age of easy access to knowledge, thinking that inhaling vaporized oil and shit into ones lungs would not have consequences is rather stupidGnash
- hmm no source... have you noticed the pivot to non licensed stuff being smoked... very curiosu who is paying for these studies if its the original juul and look********
- ing for ways to constrict competition. as far as we know of the 450 in 33 states there in no comon cause of product or anything jsut they vaped.********
- My intial skepticism makes me curious how many people are hospitlaized each year for a "breathing illness" in total un vape tagged...********
- i feel strongly like there is a false positive lobbying study being pushed by special interests. im not a vapor i think its dumb AF.********
- but to the crux of the issue, no source. being shared as anti capitalism and anti GOP... what is the real motivation here?********
- doing your part to spread fake news that supports your self interests... you ever question why you post such things? if you arent just dancing for ent of********
- someone else. Do you strongly support the idea ecigs are a health hazard and should be banned and going back to smoking?********
- so strongly that all intention of economics or party had nothing to do with it and that was your intention? the russia social shit is still fascinating********
- https://www.cdc.gov/…
warning was posted online a week ago.uan - Vape technology has been around for years, tobacco companies only put it out so it could survive a few more.PhanLo
- Yeah, not sure wtf vaping has to do with 'Big Tobacco' or 'GOP' - it's big business now, but a massively fragmented industry with loads of independents.Nairn
- The FDA restriction of flavourings will make it so only big business can compete in this space. Nobody else could afford the studies.monNom
- Big tobacco owns most of the large Vape companies.utopian
- Vitamin E acetate, which recently has been used as a thickener, particularly in BLACK MARKET vape cartridges seems to be the culprit—not 'Big Tobacco'.PonyBoy
- He’s using a hose?
That’s vape level 9000futurefood - @deathboy has ground his axe into a mace, and now he wants to beat you over the head with it.zarb0z
- i think uan cdc article provides more insight than my adamantium +35 mace.********
- can sum it up as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ stuff is still being figured out********
- we have on correlation without any evidence or anything to back it up. havent even confirmed cases we are grouping together********
- either cdc is stupid or they are writing PR releases with special interests in mind. ppl here actually read the report and think OMG its dangerous? the evidence********
- is so strong! thank god they saved em and i can go back to cigarettes... sigh********
- Holy shit. You don’t need a link. Just read the news about it. And there is no study. What the FUCK are you talking about? It’s lung damage from vaping. Period.monospaced
- My father was one of the doctors who diagnosed one of these cases where the kid is dying. Just two weeks ago in California.monospaced
- I can’t believe you’d say the CDC is stupid. They employ people far smarter and educated and qualified than your stupid ass. Shut the fuck up.monospaced
- wait mono you say you dont need a cdc report but beleive the cdc? cdc explicitly states********
- pulmonary illnesses possibly related to e-cigarette product use, or “vaping,” primarily among adolescents and young adults. Many states have alerted CDC to poss********
- to possible (not confirmed) cases and investigations into these cases are ongoing.********
- That is PR. Reports promotig fear involving something without evidence. It's special interests. Its tabloid.********
- Hell what exactly did your father diagnose for the kid? Lets start there first.you seem to know all these people with valuable info but not really doing much********
- for argument sake. dad is a west coast doc friend who studies "cowboys". knowing someone is pointless unless you can advance an arguemnt based on knowledge of********
- said experts and still will need scrutiny of data for facts. just how the real academic circles work.********
- my argument is that they aren't idiots, and there is confirmed lung damage from vapes, you fucking retardmonospaced
- Yes, that is PR from the CDC. It's not a report you dumbass. I didn't say I don't need a repot, I'm saying there hasn't been a study. Fucking hell learn to readmonospaced
- The reports are coming in, and the studies will begin. The CDC isn't in the business of making cases, just keeping people safe. There is no conspiracy.monospaced
- And yes, my father is a prominent west coast physician of 50 years. Doctors practice medicine you idiot, they don't "study" anything. There is no motive.monospaced
- haha mono the top gov agency for protection "reports" no evidence so far. PR or reports not a difference. You state your dad diagnosed an issue.********
- diagnosed a respiratory issue? As no study he couldnt relate it to anything. May make false causations since they dont "study" anything. Hey thanks for doing********
- the work on how the ill informed parse info.********
- also find it funny you need to claim your dad as a prominent west coast physician.. what makes one prominent? is it prominent in the field of "study" respira********
- tory illnesses... care tp define prominence in this context or just jsut saying shit in hopes no one will ask. tell tell signs of bullshit is indirectness********
- and you said studies will begin with no evidence stated by cdc... how have you already come to a conculsion lung damage by vape? trying to threads of reasonhere********
- my hypthesis is the capitalism base and my post. no reason at all just follow the signals you are sold. since never really shown any independent thought********
- uan2
- uan1
- utopian-1
- drgs0
New app claims it can identify venture capitalists using facial recognition
- utopian-1
God Bless Yankee Doodle Dandy Capitalism
DEA allowed companies to increase production of opioids as overdose deaths spiked, agency watchdog says.
The Drug Enforcement Administration allowed manufacturers to produce more and more opioids for a decade, even as deaths from the crisis spiked, the Justice Department's inspector general said in a report released Tuesday.
- haha what of this is due to capitalism? we have gov + insurance companies which gov in quite in bed with.a lack of gov oversight due to basic incentives********
- make me wonder if you understand the fundamental idea of capitalism. could me most don't know which is the problem********
- Yeah Death, what you're saying isn't new. People call this crony capitalism.T-Dawg
- Let's not dumb it down to the by-the-book principles of capitalismT-Dawg
- Because that makes a boring old argument we've all seen in these threads a million times before.T-Dawg
- and yet is always portrayed incorrectly. yes american indian scalps where easily faked for mexicans but we all know it lets not talk about it********
- Why do you seem to meh mashing of the definitions tdawg? clearly this has lil failure to do with capitalism and more so gov.********
- the gov that is increasingly gaining for control over everything. i'd hardly think of it as meh just dumb it down word play. it a symptom of a larger problem********
- that keeps growing as a cure for the problem. poison as antidote.********
- I'd disagree, I'd say it's corporations increasingly gaining control over everything, including the governmentT-Dawg
- You don't think it's weird that senators can currently sit on corporate boards, influence policy that affects stocks they own, then retire to become lobbyists?T-Dawg
- You don't think it's weird that the guy in the white House is a brand name, who ran for president as a way to boost sales?T-Dawg
- It's not government 'gaining power' that's the problem. It's that the representation of power is imbalanced, Capitol over peopleT-Dawg
- and yea tdawg that has nothign to do with capitalism. quite the opposite. capitalism is a private method of enterprised where parties trade value freely********
- you bring gov in and it loses meaning. politicians start gaming rules an regualtions in favors of industry and its not capitalism********
- capitslism is a pure and basic concept and ideal we have truend into a boogeyman which hasnt existed for a long time********
- its a goal we should try to achieve. the other is end of the spectrum is no private property and complete control by gov because half control didnt work...********
- i prefer solutions that limit control. even knowing full well and pointing out one that are engineered to make the free system look like a failure********
- when the regualtors say fin ill let you swim but let me ind you hands and feet... are you really truely free to swim. if you drown is private business to blame?********
- anf tdawg remebr gov in the gatekeeper. private enterprise for the inmate. if the inamte can somehow manage to entice a gatekeeper to sellout. who is the bad********
- guy for accepting bribes, what types are attracted to the bribes and perhaps the entire system is fucked where the system is designed around bribes********
- take the power of business from the gatekeepers and you have no one bribing. well at elast i most sectors not involved in military industrail complex********
- military is the one real aspect of gov.********
- Really, that's interesting, military for what purpose, defense of industry? Expansionism?T-Dawg
- At what point do neighbours who share the same ideals become enemies?T-Dawg
- In this purely 'capitalist' fantasy we're conjuring, doesn't the end game just amount to cartels (or companies) fighting for territory and resources.T-Dawg
- Much like in countries with little government accountability, control or oversightT-Dawg
- Well let's, rephrase that to 'free market' fantasy, if we want to keep definitions by the book.T-Dawg
- deathboy, you just argued FOR regulations, you realize that right?monospaced
- Just to build upon your analogy, if there is no gatekeeper, the inmates run the prisonT-Dawg
- What I desire is accountability on all sides, at least one can vote for a gatekeeper and try to keep the bad ones out of the systemT-Dawg
- And what I originally described were symptoms of crony capitalism. If you disagree with the term, take it up with the folks who coined it 40 years agoT-Dawg
- No tdawg your cartels and companies exist only in the cronie capitalism catalog. Again not a failure of capitalism but of gov enticement to private enterprise********
- Can a cartel exist without gov help? You will see if gov stayed away in pretty much any instance you can think of a cartel wouldn't exist.********
- and that isn't fantasy that is hard fact truth BRO. Do you play video games at all? Do you understand patch systems and behaviors involved? On one hand there********
- is a rule maker. That can arbitarily change anything, nerf a gun, fix a spawn point, all those rules effect how the best advantages are played out. And ask********
- any developer how surprised what they thought would happen did not happen. and surprisingly the game is still exciting********
- but when the game gets long in the tooth and everything is so balanced and equal and stagnate, people bounce for a new game********
- a couple parables to take from such behavior. humans desire somw chaos for advantages. and if a central gov gets it all balanced will ppl play?********
- and military purely for defense. im more a jeffersonian type that rather be farmers than world cops.********
- i know our leaders scheming and shit make us not look like ghana. i may not respect the methods, but i do like the conveniences of subjugating so many.********
- i also know most ppl are stupid and see its a us vs them mentality... anti-capitalism displays such mentality. hard to argue against with reason agai tribalism.********
- world is a fascinating place. but it breaks down to almost all 1 and 0. Indvidualism vs collectivism in our societies. A mix of both********
- Find it hard for anyone to think collectivism scale in direction is a good thing. We may never reach pure individualism through genetic safeties, but without********
- i find that as a true measurement of mans accomplishment and success. individual freedom. Real enlightenment. See the periods of times********
- were of such thinking.********
- so basically we're back to rousseau vs hobbesT-Dawg
- maybe. depends on how you express the similiarities and would need to take a side and why. you seem to understand the argument, yet dont take a side?********
- or at least back a side. like fuck the individual we all ants supporting the the mighty queens. or we are are all ants but our individual choices dictate who we********
- support vs force********
- personall i see the H vs R argument as purely relative to man made concepts. I dont think man is either evil or good. not sure morality plays a part at all.********
- but reason. why should one man work for another arguement. the hypocrisy and logical fallicies to support all collectivism. it can only exist if the individual********
- doesnt. or at least in a early society where mjority of rule makers understood the inherent flaws of society and trie to prevetn them by law********
- and a future society could clean them up, but hey thermodynamics of systems right?********
- haha what of this is due to capitalism? we have gov + insurance companies which gov in quite in bed with.a lack of gov oversight due to basic incentives
- uan0
marxists...
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