Buying a used car
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- formed0
Forget the gas mileage, I cant' stand SUV's for blocking visibility. Nothing worse than pulling alongside one and trying to see if oncoming traffic is there.
The smaller ones see ok, but they are still too much. Why not get a nice wagon? Safer, better performance all around, as good or better in the winters.
It does seem like it is an american thing "gotta get a truck to haul..."
- iCanHasQBN0
it's ok, you're already being a dick by driving a SUV.
what do you need a second family car for? first one not good enough for you? is it too small to make you feel like a real man?
- < what he said.iCanHasQBN
- lol.bigtrickagain
- Not all SUVs are large. Give the guy a break. My wife's little Escape is better on gas than her mid-size car was.ETM
- "all SUVs are large" on the outside, yes. inside, not so much.akrokdesign
- Okay. Her Escape is like a foot shorter and 2 inches narrower than her last car.ETM
- I'm ok with Escapes btw. those are tiny compared to the big-boy SUVs that I loathe.iCanHasQBN
- SteveJobs0
simple. go in with a price in mind, something a few grand less than sticker obviously. when you've driven the car, looked it over, make them a solid offer. if there's any resistance, walk away. don't haggle. they'll jump through hoops to get you your price.
- davebellechique0
- <bigtrickagain
- <<clearThoughts
- Al Gore's photoshop?seeessess
- +1akrokdesign
- SteveJobs0
oh, and get a warranty.
- Mimio0
Shop on a Tuesday night two hours before closing. Be prepared to walk away if you don't like their math.
- iCanHasQBN0
Exactly, formed. I abhor SUV's because they are an obstruction just as much as I do for them being inefficient. You can't see through their windows to make turns (you making a right turn, and them making a left onto a collector street - basically, if one pulls up alongside you, you have to wait until they make their left turn before you can make your right turn). And if you're behind one, it's like driving behind a brick wall, making it impossible to see what's ahead on the road. A hazard, for sure.
I don't even understand the point of crash testing and putting safety standards on the smaller cars (like a Yaris for example), while at the same time we make it perfectly legal for someone to lift their Ford Excursion and put Big Foot tires on them. What's the point of trying to make small cars safe if we allow Enormous SUVs to roam around that would demolish any compact car that it comes across? It's completely irresponsible and self-serving to drive these things - all the sake for their ego.
You see this kind of garbage everywhere where I live.
Primitive meatheads.
- lol @ego comment, with 2 paragraphs, you obviously have some issuesidiots
- does it hurt your brain to read 2 paragraphs?iCanHasQBN
- well... crash avoidance is more important than crash results... I've never had anything worse than a paint scratchvaxorcist
- ... are you saying you drive an SUV or a small car??iCanHasQBN
- regardless, your personal experience of never having been in a major wreck is irrelevant.iCanHasQBN
- if you fail to see my simple point... well, i don't even know what to tell you...iCanHasQBN
- idiots0
- it's lowered, what's your problem now?idiots
- nothing. it's not an obstruction anymore. just tacky as hell.iCanHasQBN
- what did they do with the drug dealer car. lol.akrokdesign
- vaxorcist0
Find a broke idiot who bought an Escalade and can't make the payments... send him all sorts of fake bill collection notices you designed, then put an envelope on his Escalade saying you'll pay $3000 cash tomorrow morning for it if he has the title...
- Lol. That'd be fun.noneck
- How the FUCK do you find a broke idiot who bought an Escalade and can't make the payments?monospaced
- go to a rap concert.iCanHasQBN
- those are called leasesidiots
- ummm... go just about anywhere in miami or los angeles. tons of "welfare-laden" escalade driversismith
- My original plan was to buy something from the southern states and drive it back.noneck
- But I'd get hit with a $4000 surcharge at the border for driving a gas guzzler. Plus all the other fees.noneck
- haha really? that sucks, but maybe you should consider... getting... a wagon... from one of those southern states...ismith
- but really there's a charge for that kind of thing?ismith
- 23kon0
find a truck you fancy in car trader mags or online - one thats not the original owner.
look for a similar photo of a smashed one on google images.
photoshop the advertised car's reg onto smashed photo.
show the guy/girl the photo when you go to see it and tell them theres no way that you are paying full wack for something thats been a writeoff in the past and that they'd been ripped off when they bought it from previous owner.
also, pretend you can see where the smash has been fixed up - imprefections in the paint where the sun is shining on it funny.
lolol
- bigtrickagain0
you should man up and get a minivan - way better suited to the purpose than an suv (suvs are for people too worried about their image, whereas minivans are for the ones who buy the right tool for the job).
- fffuuuu....SteveJobs
- hahabigtrickagain
- I know a number of photographers who have minivans and laugh at SUV's with much less spacevaxorcist
- iCanHasQBN0
i hate these a-holes (and not specifically directed at noneck, because i dont entirely know his situation). but it seems as soon as an american couple has a baby, for some reason they think they need to buy a goddamn Chevy Suburban or something.
my single mother had us three children in an '88 Camry, and that was just fine. in fact, it was better, since it taught us how to compromise and get along.
Nowadays, every kid has to have their own damn ROW in the vehicle, watching some animated movie on a big screen and drowning in their cheap plastic toys... ffs.
Sorry, if you haven't noticed, I hate SUV's. They are an obstruction. There is nothing "Sport" or "Utility" about them. They were created simply to allow men to compensate for whatever it is they're lacking in terms of masculinity.
- Agree completely. PLUS they are not safer than cars. Roll tendency much higher.jacklalane
- SUVs can be very utility-oriented for certain lifestyles or parts of the country.letterhead
- bullshit. 99.9999% of these SUV drivers have "lifestyles" that include driving to Walmart and the gas station.iCanHasQBN
- zzzingbigtrickagain
- And I'm not denying that SUVs can be utility-oriented. I'm saying that it's NOT what they're being used for in americaiCanHasQBN
- ...in america.iCanHasQBN
- ..so maybe i misspoke in that sense.iCanHasQBN
- agree. it's a shitty design. acturlly, many of them are really bad off-road. they might look like they can do there but no.akrokdesign
- my parents have a 4 wheel drive MINIVAN, in Rural Tennessee, land of hills rain and muddy roadsvaxorcist
- but is wanting an SUV any different than wanting a sports car if you're just making trips to the grocery store?mg33
- but sports cars are not an obstruction or a safety hazard.iCanHasQBN
- Frosty_spl0
Buy one from a private seller. Get it checked out at a dealer first though. You can save a lot of money. I will never buy a car at a dealer.
I bought my super clean 02 BMW m3 from a private party. It was only 21k. A dealer down the street had one that wasn't as nice for 26k.
Or if you must buy new, go at the last day of the month. They have to make their sales quotas and will be more likely to haggle down.
- ETM0
Seen this one noneck?
http://www.autotrader.ca/used_ca…
- vaxorcist0
But seriously..... if you don't mind the abuse, getting a big, unhip, overdone SUV may be cheap, as people are trying to get rid of them....
And... drive your hummer alot less, ride a bike some more.... and you're more green than a pious prius driver who commutes hundreds of miles a day....
in 1980, my dad bought a really cheap big old 1971 plymouth fury, after calculating that he'd have to get over 100 miles per gallon to make up the difference in the cost of the car versus a newer datsun.... as he didn't drive much at all.... so he, the rational physicist, decided he didn't mind the people calling him names, he also calculated that in environmental terms, building a new car takes a huge amount of energy, thus negating some of the gas mileage advantage....
- noneck0
@iCanHasQBN
I don't disagree with anything you've argued, really. That lifted Excursion is obscene. I live in a city populated by 25 year old assholes that make $120K/year working on the oil rigs, and they have nothing better to spend their money on than jacked up 1 ton pickup trucks that they use to drive to the movies.
Clotaire Rapaille talks about SUVs and egos, in his brilliant book, The Culture Code. You should watch the PBS Frontline segment where talks about his work (it's the fourth clip, http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/fr…). He sums up the how/why of SUV design really nicely.
That being said, I do require a large SUV for some of the reasons I've stated earlier. A minivan won't work, neither will a wagon. So I'm going to be a used one, not a new one. And it's going to be a second vehicle; 90% of the time I'll drive my small Japanese sedan that gets 30MPG.