"here are some sites i like" she says
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- persona_non_grata0
wow wonder where her business will be in a year
either made of money or http://www.sadtrombone.com/
- DeSiard0
glad to hear it went well!
- bigtrickagain0
it worked out well. basically she had an epiphany/change of heart about the whole identity of the restaurant (it is now more like... two restaurants in the same room. don't ask). she's cool about paying me for my work so far and will pay me more to redo the site in the new direction that she's thinking of.
plus, she fed me a delicious lunch! she is a-ok in my book (:
- C'mon, what did you 'feed' her for lunch? *wink* *wink*d_rek
- Ranger0
Was idiots the 'another designer'?
- kushman0
good luck!
- bigtrickagain0
welp, i'm headed over there now. wish me luck.
- idiots0
congrats to her.
site was shite.
- JazX0
- scrap_paper0
It really all depends on hour the contract was worked out in the first place. Did you make sure to highlight process and indicate that changes to the creative phase of the project after sign off will result in a need to re address the estimate?
This really does suck and it happens to everyone. Just tell the client everything is doable (if it is actually, physically doable) with the correct assets of budget and timeline applied to the project. Deviation from the process will require a change in budget and timeline.
- straightola0
i get this on a daily basis from the main guy I work for, went completely off the rails at him last night as a result.
Also happened a couple of weeks ago with a band im working with on motion graphics for their tour. They hired me specifically because of what I had done live at a show with them, worked through a load of ideas based on this and tried to get them to have a proper meeting to discuss ideas. I had initially quoted as a 2 or 3 day job and knocked a bit off because I liked them plus I ended up working a full week on it simply because I wanted to do something special. 3 weeks after I had handed over what I thought was the final dvd (and 4 days before their tour started) they email over a load of stuff about how this might be a bit too similar in theme to something another band might do and to redo something with a load of soviet animation off youtube. I suppose these are the mistakes you have to make early on to ensure you beat the info out of the client before you start
- pillhead0
As long as she in willing to pay you for the redesign take the money.
- BaskerviIle0
- can you even be timelined if it's already on the same page? :-)Not_Just_Another
- orrinward0
With the rounded corners you should do them in CSS rather than as a png, they'll look sharper.
- this is bollocksckentish
- And yet ie6 will murder both methodssneakybadger
- Yeah, stick to GIFs with the bkg matte matched to the site background. Or nob of ie6 and do PNGskushman
- ifeltdave0
I don't like it, you should probably change the design.
- ukit0
What are some of the sites she likes anyway? Is there some kind of logical connection that can be drawn with the existing site that might tell you how to make her happy by tweaking a couple things? Or is it just completely random unhelpful shit?
- noneck0
Also, these big changes shouldn't be a problem if you're billing hourly. If you're billing on a project basis, you should have laid out how the project will flow, what phases it will go through.
If you just said "Website - $XXXX", you're sunk. In that case, learn for next time and get back to work on designing a site with a better "energy".
- isakosmo0
i hear ya. its the story of my life at the moment and its the reason why my resignation is imminent. they approve, you carry the design across posterrs/flyers/tickets, then they say also, can you change the colours and maybe the photo? IM OUTA HERE
- noneck0
I hate this. I feel sorry for you.
Hopefully you got a deposit and have a decent agreement in place: you may need to fall back on them soon.
Try looking for themes in the sites she sent you, what's the difference between those sites and the one you're working on? Sometimes you can address her anxiety with some tweaks to the existing site design.
I've also worked on sites where 3/4 of the way into it, I decided I didn't like the "energy" of the site. I spoke to the client, and then took it back to the design phase where I designed something three times better, and proceeded really quickly after that.
Sometimes you need to do things like that. It's your name on that work, try to make sure you're proud of it.
- hans_glib0
maybe she saw the original thread and took some of the comments to heart
- maybe she glibly took the advice of idiots to heartbigtrickagain