Designer Drugs
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- Bluejam0
- I like that songstoplying
- Yeh, I love this video. Bless em, they did so well at Glasto, they're really proper guys too apparently, been around 4 yonx.mikotondria3
- tymeframe0
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There is no evidence that ecstasy causes brain damage, according to one of the largest studies into the effects of the drug. Too many previous studies made over-arching conclusions from insufficient data, say the scientists responsible for the research, and the drug's dangers have been greatly exaggerated.
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^ In other words
"this is your brain on drugs":)
- i never understood those PSA.. my brain is not a egg.autoflavour
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I still can't believe that to be true.
In my younger days, after a good binge (2-3 days at a festival) on it it would take me a good few weeks before I felt fully normal again. It seems odd that the 'negative' after effects could be noticeable for weeks, but apparently leave no permanent changes.I always find that if taken in moderation, and still having a great time with it, I feel fine immediately after the comedown, but if I really go wild then I can't help believe, despite lack of apparent evidence, that I've been affecting my brain permanently.
Then again it may just have changed my conscious perception of things rather than the nuts and bolts.
I think it's quite irresponsible to suggest that ecstasy causes no brain damage, as they are referring to a pure form of MDMA, not what people buy on the street. Many of the chemicals found in street pills are known to have long term effects to the brain and the body.
- The article above is not true. They're actually promoting drug use because you will be more of a zombie and a FOLLOWER.********
- Its a tactic Government have used for a long time. Just a step above from the fluoride in the water********
- The article above is not true. They're actually promoting drug use because you will be more of a zombie and a FOLLOWER.
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I think the short term after effects (tiredness, apathy etc) are from serotonin depletion in the brain. Since that's how MDMA works, it triggers the release of larger than normal amounts of serotonin in one go. But feeling apathetic for a few days isn't necessarily (or even likely) proof of any kind of permanent brain damage.
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But as with anything that depletes something in your body and reduces function, with repeat use/exposure without allowing for recovery in the process, there are permanent effects such as susceptibility to damage there.
When I was 13 and took ecstasy one pill (got in with an older crowd...) would get me really high. That dose would still be able to get me high when I was 17 or 18, and I believe this is because I only did it very occasionally, so my body recovered and balanced it's serotonin well. Around 18/19 I went through a spell of a few months doing large amounts (2-3g) every other day or so, and I'd say that although I function perfectly now in my day-to-day, and I have no psychological issues, it has had a permanent effect on my brain. I'll need about 0.3g to feel a change of state.
Surely this threshold difference indicates that either my brain has changed the way it processes serotonin or that the neurons are less receptive, at least when put under unusual circumstances.
I can't go up against actual scientists on the matter but from personal experience, I think that my ecstasy use has had a permanent effect on the way my brain functions, even though it's only noticeable in unusual (getting fucked) situations.
I don't think ecstasy causes brain damage in the sense of losing brain function, but in a looser sense I believe it, with non-moderate use, leaves permanent changes.
I'm a big advocate for ecstasy and think it's really helped form my perspective of myself and the friendships I hold, but I really can't say that when abused it doesn't leave permanent effects, most likely neurocognitive deficit of serotonin receptors.
- I really should come up with an anonymous alias of sorts...********
- your body is different in so many ways due to age, particularly your enzyme raios and metabolism, liver, stomach, etcmikotondria3
- State of mind is a huge factor. Whole reason that placebos work.cotton
- I really should come up with an anonymous alias of sorts...
- 74LEO0
New a girl that liked taking these .WOW!
She would squirt across the room.
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Theres a new drug on the streets...
Charlie Sheen- has been taken orally by a lot of females - allegedlyrybration
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- epic_rim0
I did some drugs the other week. Such a strange experience after years and years of taking nothing more than an occasional drink. I don't miss it at all but i gotta say from about 1995 to 2001 I had a great time bending my brain and body.
- moldero0
reminds me of a funny story when I used to live in LA, me and my buddy used to snort our e, so one time were kickin it at this small rave in down town LA, my buddy who i called puff daddy because of his crazy collection of cars (long side story short, he put a fuckin body kit on his fuckin viper, dude was loaded) anyways,
says to me, "hey man, the e's still in our nose, you can taste it" as hes rubbing his nostril and licking it. to make this story short, 5 minutes later were both diggin deep into our noses and licking our fingers, I realize what the fuck were doing then look up to notice were in the entrance to this rave and everyone walking in is walking past and tripping off of the big mafia looking Chinese dude and me who are picking their noses and eating their boogers.- haha. wouldn't molly burn like shit?scarabin
- did, but not that bad, + peak hits you in like 5 minutesmoldero
- one time though snorted some crap e thought my head was going to explode, was a horrible hourmoldero
- felt like mia wallacemoldero
- lately i've just been dumping a bump on the back of my hand and just licking it off. fuck caps and all that shitscarabin
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brains - I call that 'fun dip'brains
- i haven't dropped since '00moldero
- i'm actually phasing it out. the hangovers don't seem as worth it to me for something so illusory. it's mostly just psychedelics for me nowscarabin
- me nowscarabin
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Oxycotin for me thanks...
- moldero0
"Recent research has analysed the link between the harmful effects of drugs relative to their current classification by law with some startling conclusions. Perhaps most startling of all is that alcohol, solvents and tobacco (all unclassified drugs) are rated more dangerous than ecstasy, 4-MTA and LSD (all class A drugs). If the current ABC system is retained, alcohol would be rated a class A drug and tobacco class B"
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/i…thats it im starting e again.
- the US surgeon general has been quoted as saying using ecstasy is safer than riding a horsescarabin
- have you SEEN the way he rides a horse ?mikotondria3
- Riding a horse on ecstasy may be more dangerous than both though. A lot of fun though!********
- Oh what a lovely horse. I never realised how spiritual horses could be. I can hear it thinking about me. Fuck yeh.. ahh......mikotondria3
- Let's stop riding and talk about stuff. I love talking about stuff.mikotondria3
- hahascarabin
- scarabin0
- call me crazy... the manicured marijuana has seeds in it?********
- i've never run into "ends tucked" or the "bomber" beforescarabin
- ends tucked is some classy shit.zarkonite
- i've seen ends tucked but the bomber is a want********
- I thought that's how all the euros did it. Stick in a filter and tuck in the ends...at least that's who I learned it from.cotton
- call me crazy... the manicured marijuana has seeds in it?
