Design to the pixel!
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- Ranger0
With the recession encouraging so much hate between us I can only hope for a summer of love to reunite all
- bumdrizzle0
i thought you had your web monkeys fired if they dared to complain about your 'message' being handed over as an indesign file monospaced?
- PIZZA0
You have "digital" in your agency name... and you send me 300dpi files. GO DIE IN A FIRE YOU INCOMPETENT FUCKWIT
- ar170na0
I'm a designer and I'm pixel-paranoid. I created this Design Slideshow exactly for that reason: http://www.theclientspace.com/de…
- airey0
i tell print designers to use 288dpi and usually supply a measurement width for their photoshop files. 288 divides to 72 perfectly without buggering the design up but still lets the print designer use the toolsets / filters / measurements their comfortable with - obviously at lower res the effects / styles / whatever become different to use or apply and that confuses the fuckers.
- Lillebo0
This is now my favorite thread.
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- mmLillebo
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- klager ikke.Lillebo
- akrokdesign0
hahah. that's a bitch but why don't you explain to the noob how you want it / the right way.
- ... he should do his job for him?Lillebo
- no, he tells him/her. give me 72 dpi. 1024 px wide, etc.akrokdesign
- Should not be necessary with professional designers or developers. This is elementary knowledge...Lillebo
- when I get a brief its hardly the person doing my job for me.set
- ckentish0
I'm sure one of the reasons this occurs (and it has to me many times from print designers doing web) is that the designer worries that the web-based content may be used in print one day so protects his ass by making it all at print resolutions. Or then again, maybe they are just muppets.
- this isn't a bad idea ... but make a copy and resize and send that file instead.pizzafire
- scrap_paper0
The designer should know something about the media they are designing for. Plain and simple. Either know something about paper, binding and finishes or about what it takes to develop web content from your design.
Design is a craft.
- must_dash0
i recently had a job to do... and had to work from pdf's from a designer... the client says it is all too big... i say that i worked to the size of the images... turned out the client signed it off having looked at it at 66.7%.... nice one!
- lookingat 66.7 and saying too big... wouldnt you have to make it even smaller then?cannonball1978
- signed off at 66.7, then saw it later built at 100%acescence
- lol at that, i've had similar experiences unsuprisingly..tOki
- boobs0
It's horrible what some people do.
- brandon_phillip0
Or you get web-tards in your company who want 300dpi artwork from 72dpi pixel perfect designs. Not saying it cannot be done - but once you have everything in PSD and layers merged, effects mashed into every layer, etc. it makes it a bit challenging. Thus resulting in an all night Photoshop/Illustrator jam session to get what this guy wants. Only to find out that he wants it for a 'screenshot' for print media. Correct me if I am wrong but the iPhone, iPad, Kindle, the internet, mobile technology and many other digital devices are killing off printed news and advertising... or am I mad.
- handle0
All I hear is excuses of why your ineptitude is someone else's problem to figure out. Don't cop an attitude in defense of your inadequacies. I see this all the time and I sure wish it would stop. Be a man and take the time to learn the medium you supposedly are getting your foot into. On the flip side, how would you think of us if we sent a print job to you at 72 ppi RGB file to you and said "It's for you to get it done correctly"
Be responsible. Im with you PonnyBoy!
- inteliboy0
I think if you're in the position of mocking up web templates, you should at least know the basics of how your file should be setup - ie. for ~1024x768 screen size.
By SoulFly's logic, if a web guy takes on some print jobs and sends them off to the printer... in low res 72dpi jpgs, it's the printers fault for being "lazy".
- BonSeff0
why don't you spend less time bitching on a design board and resize them shits..
oh shnap
j/k fucker
- gramme0
I usually design sites in InDesign using a point-to-pixel setup. Been doing this for about 3 years. Seems to work pretty well. Webkins often ask me to convert to Photoshop. I tell them I'll design it in InDesign regardless, so either I'll pull it over into Photoshop or they will. They almost always decide to take my ID files, because I'm passing the bill on to the client anyway and it's just more paid time for the devvers.
It's like trapping for print files. I'd rather have the experts do it.
- if you're clear about that up-front... I'm completely fine w/your methodPonyBoy
- (as you mentioned above) :)PonyBoy
- I do the same.monospaced
- PonyBoy0
patience is fine and dandy when we're kids sitting in class awaiting for others to catch up...
... this is business... and I have other business... ... will the company pay me for the extra time wasted on their shit while I have other work to do?... even though they've already set a deadline and price w/their client (I'm talking about Agency / Studio work here... 'specialists' in the field)...
... patience shouldn't be an 'issue' here - what the agency 'should' do is hire someone to get their files prepped for output if they're not sure - HIRE ME! Hell - I'll do it... fast too... but there's an extra step of approvals (requiring time to be added to the schedule that's already short to begin with)
But... don't tell me everything is ready-to-go, have me sign a contract only to find out everything is not ready to go... ... that's just silly?... and rather unprofessional.
- I talk about this stuff up front. So I'm a high-maintenance a-hole, but I give fair warning. ;)gramme
- setting prices beforehand - that I agree is not right. I always take updated estimates based on extra work done.SoulFly
- that's why I'm annoyed, Soul... we set a price weeks ago - it would have probably helped if I had mentioned that :)PonyBoy
- monospaced0
The world of print has to deal with content in all kinds of fucked up ways and designers in that world have to spend time adapting it (copy and images) and it's just part of it. I'll admit, like SoulFly pointed out, I don't produce final web content, but it is my responsibility to design websites. I do my best to get it as close to the actual size as possible, but in the end there is a disconnect between us and the developers. I will even hand off InDesign files sometimes and they work wonders with them. I guess what I'm saying, PonyBoy is just do your best to work through it and try to make it better the next time. It's just part of the job. Cheers.
- SoulFly0
Well, I understand Ponyboy's point of view, and sure, it is not effective not to do the job right from the beginning, but people need to have patience. A lot of us print designers are just now making the jump into web and we are used to making graphics in inches and metrics, and in CMYK. If we don't send the templates quickly and hope for the best, the clients and bosses will start to think that we don't know what we are doing. That's why we rely on the developers to fix it.