Facing Obsolescence?
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- SoulFly0
Hang in there brother.
Flash is not dead just yet.
Hand in there.
- PIZZA0
All smokescreen will do is bring shitty flash banner ads to the iPhone. You would have to be a GENUINE CUNT to program such a horrible piece of software.
- luckyorphan0
IMO, most clients don't need Flash for their sites. They will begin to realize this, and, when coupled with their desire to take advantage of some of the other things out there for which HTML 5 is better, Flash will become something that is simply not necessary.
Expand your skills.
- instrmntl0
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- SoulFly0
If there is reduced demand for Flash, and Flash developers drop out for something else, then the demand will balance out at the end, maybe create even more work for the Flash developers.
Similar with the printing industry, at least on my end I see demand for experienced print designers, because so many people left the industry.
- ukit0
I guess a large part of this could rest on how Adobe sees Flash and where it decides to push it moving forward. Be interested to hear what Flash devs think but IMO Adobe really hasn't done such a great job with it since they acquired Macromedia.
- eryx0
ukit I did not think of other devices, good call on that, I am caught up in hype and controversy of the ipad, it is clear that the ipad is a far different from a cell phone, it is a new medium that could have made use of flash in a number of exiting ways.
The ipad was the big thing that made me start thinking in this direction. The question is:
is the iPad a product that is going to be useful to enough people, even without flash support, or is the ipad a type of technology that has no real purpose to most people like the apple TV?
I am just really disappointed that Apple and Adobe went this direction.
- deathboy0
flash isnt going away. flash replaced javascript back in the 90s. more options better gui. hell flash player just released today i saw on wired for mobile devices. the whole argument on mobile devices was an opportunity mac thought they could exploit for purely video. they tried to make a big deal about it and in fact turned soem people to look for a html 5 video codec. but seems a lot of peopel arent down to pay the royalties to apple for there codec when there is free alternatives. it was a smart capitalistic albeit greedy opportunity to corner a market. with the free alternatives (vp3/ogg or whatever it is google has going) flash video may not be the best way anymore or simply not the best alternative or maybe it will eb fine with the new improved versions. for the rest of web content flash is still a very viable source. javascript is mro elimited then flash plain and simple. i dont know but can javascript fuck with alpha channels or have 3d imports? as3 is still a skillful tech to know, i wish i knew it.
- acescence0
if you stick with flash you absolutely need to know AS3. and if you know AS3, you have a pretty good grasp of javascript syntax. if you know javascript, jquery pretty much comes for free. if you can only tinker around with jquery, you don't really know javascript and will be extremely limited. I wouldn't focus on any one thing though, learn all you can.
- Agree. Though knowing AS2 (ECMA4) would be just as good as AS3 for the purposes of learning JS.kingsteven
- vaxorcist0
acescence is right.... actual programming principles are transferrable.... problem-solving, and being able to learn a new API is too....
I fear that having a learning path that included lots of quirky API's can be detrimental, as you have a hard time remembering what's the architectural idea and what's just a weird quirk you have to wrestle with for historical or random reasons....
- vaxorcist0
I've come to seriously love jQuery, as it insulates me from the javascript browser quirks and hellish debugging that used to make it impossible to say when the javascript would be done and debugged...
- keithrondinelli0
Can one stick with Flash and still seriously earn a living at this point?
- PonyBoy0
flash isn't completely gone... and as acescene said... KEEP LEARNING :)
you're only as obsolete as you make yourself
- vaxorcist0
and hey.... there will probably be LOTS of projects "converting this flash website to HTML5" or whatever the PHB's want to call what they think is "preserving their investment" ....
uh huh... oh.... well, some consulting companies will make a mint on that mess....
- rzrffglyr0
"...the Web that requires richer interaction will continue to rely on Flash..." HTML5 Overview
- munch0
Every meeting I'm in lately there is at least one person who brings up the iPad or iPhone. It really sucks but Apple and Steve Jobs are simply too influential in the creative community and we can't risk losing clients by insisting a site be built in Flash. So every project we are working on right now is XHTML/CSS/jQuery. If you know AS3 well then you should have no problem at all with jQuery. Honestly I think this is all a major step backwards and very disappointing but Flash will still have it's place. If you are interested in game development I would keep working on your Flash skills.
- aanderton0
I'd recommend learning XHTML/CSS as a quick fix (you could probably learn most of it within a week if you got your head down). Then once you're comfortable with that start looking into other things, (C4D etc). That way you always have the XHTML/CSS side of things to resort back to if needs be.