Read it and weep, Flash fans
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- twokids
"After spending time playing with Flash Player 10.1 on the new Droid 2, the first Android
2.2 phone to come with the player pre-installed, I’m sad to admit that Steve Jobs was right. Adobe’s offering seems like it’s too little, too late"
- twokids0
Now that I think about it, I mean, why would flash sites designed for use on PCs with powerful processors and a lot of RAM work on a smartphone?
You don't expect to play Call of Duty on a phone, but you can play it on a PC.....
- PonyBoy0
"I visited South Park Studios on my PC and saw that it used Flash to play episodes of the popular show, so I tried it on my phone. I was pleasantly surprised at how well Flash episodes of South Park streamed over 3G, until I realized that the site had detected that I was on my phone and was serving me HTML 5 video instead."
:( that stings
- lukus_W0
I don't think this is true.
Flash (on Android 2.2) works well for me. Main problem is lack of keyboard - most interfaces haven't been optimised for a touch interface, but I'm sure this will change.
- ukit0
IMO, it doesn't matter.
Sure, in some ways its surprising that it takes so much effort to get Flash to work on a phone. But it can't be impossible, can it? Sites that have issues can go back and reoptimize existing Flash content. Adobe can continue to improve the performance of the plugin itself.
At the same time, I've been saying for a while that I think Flash is on the way out anyway. Not right now, or next year, but a few years from now. And that will happen regardless of its performance on a single mobile platform. It will happen because a truly open source, non-proprietary video and animation platform is preferable to one that is controlled by a single company.
- Yeah, I'll be glad to see it go, but it's wrong to say Flash can't work on a phone - because it can.lukus_W
- Hombre_Lobo0
One thing to consider is how powerful phones are these days. 1 gig processors are pretty immense.
If it's true and current phones can't quite get the power they need for flash, I'm sure in less than a year they'll be powerful enough to.
- yep, I agree .. plus, phones have smaller screens .. so 1ghz + smaller screen is a reasonable compromise.lukus_W
- ernexbcn0
who the fuck is this guy? and this is coming from me as an iPhone lover
- ukit0
Another thing to consider: even Adobe predicts Flash will be available on less than 50% of smartphones by 2012. So it's not going to be an option for a majority of the mobile audience anytime in the next few years.
- lukus_W0
Android doesn't do SVG at the moment - I think that's a problem.
While webkit supports it, the module's been left out of the standard browser install to save space (1M). Apparently it will be re-enabled in a later unspecified release, but it's a bit of a disappointment imo.
- PIZZA0
"Now that I think about it, I mean, why would flash sites designed for use on PCs with powerful processors and a lot of RAM work on a smartphone?"
With that logic why put flash on a phone at all, if you have to rewrite it anyway then rewrite it in a technology that's more suited to the handset
- Continuity0
This whole Flash on mobile is getting so fucking old.
They're fucking phones, not full-powered PCs, for Christ's sakes. Its primary function is to BE A PHONE. You know, that thing you talk into. (Exceptions: tablets like the iPad, which are still no substitute for full computing power). If people are expecting their iPhone to be their workhorse for everything from spreadsheets to web browsing to 3D rendering, they're in for a rude surprise.
This whole debate is so fucking pointless.
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- raf0
The demise of Flash started long before Jobs gave it err... a stab.
Threads questioning whether or not Flash was still relevant have been popping up here for years.We're in a funny transitional period when Flash is on its last legs and the technology supposed to surpass it is not only not populated in browsers, it's just not ready yet. And I'm not even talking about authoring tools yet.
Even when it gets polished, there is a hell of browser inconsistencies ahead of us. Fun times, huh?
- lukus_W0
The only thing that has been proven, is that Steve Jobs is a manipulative and disingenuous megalomaniac.
Flash can and does work on mobile. It's possible. He said it wasn't, in order to further his own business aims.
- Way to miss the discussion.dMullins
- well said sir!Hombre_Lobo
- FLASH DEVELOPER SPOTTEDPIZZA
- I don't like the stance that Apple have taken, I've never used Flash to develop, and I don't like it - but I think people should be free to choose.lukus_W
- should be free to choose.lukus_W
- Totally missing the fact that there simply wasn't a decent Flash plugin that worked on mobile when iPad launchedukit
- formed0
I just can't understand why it is not available. Who cares if it is slow? Did that stop people from making full screen video websites - that 90% of the web user's computers will come to a screeching halt if they visited the site? Nope. They popped up everywhere (and are still here).
I just want to be able to look at a Flash site if I want, not a black screen. I, me, on my phone or computer, should be able to choose what I view, not Jobs or some stupid reviewer taking his 15 seconds of fame.
- That's exactly why it isn't there. The iPhone is Jobs' product and he won't have anyone messing it up.dMullins
- raf0
If there is a company that knows something about patterns of user behaviour it is Apple. They know all about how consumer (dis)satisfaction works.
If your phone gets slow, either because too many apps are open (remember how everyone wanted multitasking on iPhone and Apple kept saying no?) or because a Flash website is slowing it down, people will blame Apple and not anyone else.
If the battery gets drained because of processor heavy Flash, people will blame Apple.
- PIZZA0
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Exactly, check the fucking article comments. One guy suggests downloading Task Killler then quitting all background tasks to get it running better.I'd rather use my fucking phone than baby sit it like that
- I agree, but Android 2.2 manages applications in a different way .. no need for the 'task killer'.lukus_W
- utopian0
MEANWHILE BACK APPLE HEADQUARTERS,
STEVE JOBS IS HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY
MAKING A PHONE CALL ON HIS BELOVED
IPHONE, BECAUSE HE KEEPS GETTING
DROPPED CALLS!I THINK HE IS HOLDING IT WRONG?
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