Help Canada not get screwed by our ISPs
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- i_monk0
When Bell isn't throttling me I get 350+kbpsbbqs down. No idea up, I don't pay attention to that. Bell throttles between 4 or 5pm and midnight. They're assdicks and I hate them.
- transmission0
what kinds of download/upload speeds are you getting with teksavvy?
is it a good service?
- Julesvm0
i_monk, when did you get that e-mail? I'm on teksavvy and I've heard no such thing. Although I really want to...
- i_monk0
tl;dr – Instead of cutting my cap from 200gb to 25, they're upping it to 300gb.
- i_monk0
Dear TekSavvy Customer,
Because of your support and participation in reaching out to the various MPs and the Minister of Industry we're pleased to announce that the March 1st UBB implementation date has been suspended indefinitely.
With over 460,000 signatures having been sent to Parliament Minister Clement and the Industry committee requested the CRTC review its recent decision in full, which it has obliged and are now doing. Until this review has occurred UBB over DSL has been completely shelved. Minister Clement also added they would overturn the review should it resemble in any way to the previous outcome!
So, congratulations to all who've spoken up about this issue, you've made a huge difference. As a Canadian, today, I can honestly say it's refreshing to know politicians do listen and will affect change when the public at large shows concern!
Effective March 1st we are going to move forward and make changes to the Usage, but we're going to make it a positive one!
We are reinstating the Unlimited package but the 200GB package will be changed... to 300GB! UBB is about Internet Costs, and as a result of lower costs with our providers (Peer1, Lime Light, etc...), costs outside our relationship with companies like Bell, we are extending the savings on to you, the clients... Enjoy!
- zarkonite0
This CRTC ruling doesn't change much for most people, and it certainly doesn't mean higher costs for everyone.
Right now all the major ISPs (Telus, Bell, Rogers) have plans with data caps and metered internet usage. What this ruling means is that the second-tier ISPs, those who don't own any infrastructure and are simply renting it out from the big three, now have to pay for their usage. Prior to this there was a flat access fee enforced by law, this was put into place to help competition along and boost an emerging market... which is probably not needed anymore at this point, the idea was that smaller ISPs could provide service in areas where the big telcos didn't think it was economically viable to do so but I'm pretty sure that between Telus, Rogers, Bell, Shaw, Videotron, Cogeco, etc. the country has all the internet access it needs.
Here's the current problem the CRTC is trying to solve: if a Tier-2 ISP starts using too much bandwidth in a certain area and since the Tier-1 ISP can't charge extra to the Tier-2 ISP for their abusive usage, who do you think ends up paying? That's right, the Tier-1 users. This flat rate that a Tier-2 gives its users, is being subsidized by Tier-1 users.
That's not to say that I don't think ALL the ISPs are going way overboard with their metered charges, but that's another debate entirely that this whole "save the internet" campaign has missed an opportunity to talk about the real problem, total cost being charged to access the net in Canada.
- Shaw dropped the cap on my plan from 170GB to 100GB using this as a flimsy excuse.ETM
- Dodecahedron0
Do you think they proposed this knowing it would be stopped by the Conservative government subsequently making them look better and possibly gaining a few additional votes so they'll stay?
- CRTC play badguy for the Corporate Conservatives to get a few votes?Dodecahedron
- georgesIII0
nothing worst then angry canadians,
the world is breathing again
- ETM0
The only thing that saved us was the timing of an upcoming election. If that wasn't the case, Harper would't have given a crap.
- Minority governments have their advantages. Scared PM's.betelgeuse
- kills me reading all teh Harper praise... are people really that stupid?horton
- What praise? We're saying he did it to win votes, not for greater good.ETM
- relax. elsewhere. openmedia.ca's facebook is full of harper fap.horton
- horton0
Ottawa to quash CRTC decision killing unlimited Internet
http://www.montrealgazette.com/b…
- Naygon0
Then there is this
http://www.canadiandownload.com/…
- decisionman0
Looks like we won.
- ETM0
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Cassette tapes did the same thing. Then we moved on.- that's not even close to what I'm talking aboutbetelgeuse
- Carting around a physical media device with your files to copy. What ARE you describing then?ETM
- the ability to put all the movies and music you've ever listened too one tiny disc.betelgeuse
- although it's a "physical" disc (like everything else right now) it would be very easy to dobetelgeuse
- incredibly cheap and there wouldn't be any downloadingbetelgeuse
- betelgeuse0
I predict that file sharing will go offline.
As the price of storage goes down, it will be really easy to buy a huge drive, fill it up with movies and music and share it with friends. They make copies, ect, ect.
- Sure let's revive 3.5" floppies with shareware programs on the rack at the grocery store too.ETM
- http://www.qbn.com/t…horton
- Doom Episode 1 any one? Maybe some clipart?ETM
- ETM what are you talking about?betelgeuse
- Are you not old enough to remember the days of everything on physical media?ETM
- yes i am.... and that's not what I'm describing...betelgeuse
- ETM0
@nb
See that's the confusing part. From what I am reading, the CRTC is only ruling in regards to second tier ISPs having to pay more to the primary ISPs. So if I am a little ISP and I buy from Shaw or Bell and resell, I have to pay more back to Shaw or Bell. Basically at only 15% less than consumer rate, so there is not a lot of margin.
I am seeing little language involving consumers directly. It seems like the big ISPs are using it as an excuse to lower caps on their customers when really the CRTC said nothing of the sort.
- Right. The CRTC is ruling out competition by forcing small companies to pay large ones outrageous fees. >nb
- http://www.theglobea…nb
- I know. But that shouldn't affect me as a direct Shaw customer. And it is.ETM