Classic Italian Typography
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- CuriousGeorge
Is there such a thing? What would be a type style from the 1700-1800s?
If Fraktur is German, what is Italy's equivalent?
- doesnotexist0
bodoni
- thisthumb_screws
- NO BODONI IS FRENCH YOU MORON!Countryman
- Giambattista Bodoni was from Parmauan
- CuriousGeorge0
Okay, maybe 1700-1800s is a bit too recent as Fraktur was established in the late 1400s to early 1500s. Looking for for this period I guess.
I've seen Blackletter some up in some research as being used in Italy but I always associate more with German and think others would as well.
- 1535 GARAMOND
1725 Caslon
1754 Baskerville
1788 Didot
1789 Bodoni
1898 Akzidenz Grotesk
1928 Futura
1932 Times
1957 Helvetica
1975 Frutigeruan
- 1535 GARAMOND
- fresnobob0
- Think Roman, not Italyfresnobob
- Too Roman.CuriousGeorge
- Thats niceinstrmntl
- fresnobob0
Ok, how about this?
"Nicolas Jenson began printing in Venice with his original roman font from 1470. Jenson's design and the very similar roman types cut by Francesco Griffo c. 1499 and Erhard Radolt c. 1486 are acknowledged as the definitive and archetypal roman faces that set the pattern for the majority of western text faces that followed."
- Still looks very Roman, but maybe that's just inherent of the culture and history.CuriousGeorge
- nah roman is all capsdoesnotexist
- doesnotexist0
bembo? centaur?
- gramme0
Any of the Venetians are classic Italian. Arno is a better Bembo, and Minion is a contemporary riff on Venetian oldstyles that's better than either of the above (imo).
The digital Bembo is a poor substitute for the original lead version. Brittle, thin, and the R is ridiculously wide.
- alas, you are right. i did get centaur from ELEMENTS OF TYPOGRAPHY though :(doesnotexist
- Centaur has a nice warmth to it, but it never really appealed to me. Just a personal preference.gramme
- identity0
Fra Gilé
- jaylarson0
ah, italic?
- popfodders0
Senatus Populusque Romanus
SPQR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPQ…http://moorstation.org/fontenniu…
http://www.dafont.com/spqr.fontProbably night right fit, but same time period: http://www.waldenfont.com/
- Countryman0
Are you for real? This is like typography 101.....
There was that guy he made the first printing press to print a bible on...... what was his name..... ohh right!
GARAMOND!
The first forms of typography that were replicated as metal and wood type were italian humanist serif fonts.
Try Jenson, Sabon, Dante, Garamond or just pick up Bringhursts book and learn something about design maybe.... pitiful
- Head > < deskgramme
- guess the chinese never existed...or gutenbergdoesnotexist
- gramme0
@ Countryman: By Garamond, you mean Gutenberg, right? Who was German, and thus has nothing to do with this discussion?
The first forms of typography that were replicated as movable (wooden) type were actually Chinese (ca. 11th century AD), but next in line was Gutenberg with his blackletter. Humanist miniscules (Carolingians) came later, which influenced the Venetian serifs that came after that.
Claude Garamond was a Frenchman. I believe you're right in that the first metal types were Italian (created in Venice by another Frenchman, Nicolas Jenson), but Garamond's oldstyles were French and distinct from Italian contemporaries, with less of a calligraphic influence than the fonts coming out of Venice around the same time.
So, yeah... you really schooled CuriousGeorge. Well done.