Non-Competition?
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- e-wo
Prospective client X calls up, says he loves the site I made for client Y. They're in the same industry in the same city.
Client X wants me to clone client Y's site for his business.
Me: "I can't copy it, but I can get you in that ballpark."
Client X: "I'd prefer the same site with my logo and copy."
Me: "Uh..."How close a design can I legally provide?
How close a design should I provide?
- e-wo0
Also, I still do work every now and then for Client Y, and don't want to piss him off.
- cannonball19780
"No."
- doesnotexist0
say, "no."
- decisionman0
+No
- VikingKingEleven0
is this a freelance thing?
you can not copy the site if both copies are in the same industry if you're run an ethical based businesses.
Most freelancers have a contract or sign a contract that says you can not work with competitors in the same industry.
Now if you sold the original design as a template then its fair game but from your description that does not sound like the case.
You have to say no, "ill design you a better site if you want"
- you*VikingKingEleven
- You have to say no, "ill design you a better site if you want" for doubled rate ;)dobre
- all my works are in the same industry, if anyone will forbid me of doing that I will either want a lifetime supply of cashMiguex
- or the ability to levitate at will power, or no deal.
been freelancing for over 10 yearsMiguex
- hellobotto0
Business practices like this undermine initiatives by the design community to be treated as partners at clients' tables while enjoying due respect and fair compensation.
I'm not sure why this is even a question that needed to be floated. You're seriously asking if it's okay to rip someone else's site? Seriously? In doing so, I'd hope you wouldn't charge Client Y for any design services, since Client X has paid for them. And after you're done knocking this out for Client Y, consider sending them Client X's address so they can send a Thank You card for bankrolling their online presence.
Also, if you go through with this, as you've described it, please don't post in the future about clients undervaluing your services. Please don't post about anyone lifting your work. Please don't post about losing prospective work to designers of equal talent/capabilities that low-balled the shit out of a proposal just to price you out.
Seriously? You seriously have to ask?
- identity0
he just wants the quality of the site you produced for his competitor - and figures that you wont have to go through all the time, energy and MONEY to design another one. Say no - if not for the fact that it's an ethically awful thing to do to someone - but for the fact that he's probably going to low-ball the shit out of you with money
- e-wo0
There is no question that doesn't warrant asking. My answer to Client X on the phone was, and was always going to be, "NO." I thought it wise to hear some broader perspective on the topic of non-competition without the context of my choice.
- Applaud you wanting to seek outside opinions/insights...hellobotto
- ...subject matter like this puts an instant crimp in my craw. Apologies for the knee-jerk post.hellobotto
- Totally understandable. I'm glad to see some depth of opinion on the issue.e-wo
- Continuity0
Non-competition does exactly what it says on the tin, and if you have such an agreement in pace with one client – written, verbal or otherwise – it's to be respected.
- No such agreement in place – written, verbal or otherwisee-wo