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- Beeswax0
Whenever Brent oil drops down to $60 something happen at strait of Hormuz.
It goes over $66 and Trump escalates a trade war dropping down the price again.
It's just a fun game they play.- Dinosaur stew, both plant and mammal.. that's what they are squabbling over.shapesalad
- hmm and now on jan 3rd you rintrepretation?********
- Krassy1
Iran’s Gen. Soleimani killed in Baghdad strike
- That won't piss anyone off...looks like Tman is going for the end-all distraction. Fucking terrifying.formed
- and it's not terrifying what the terrorist Soleimani has been doing?Krassy
- He's been fighting ISIS you fucking twatMilan
- Well it seems like this thread finally has relevance.yuekit
- Lol President Trump took out what would have been the future President of Iran. Don't be scared of war gentleman, the millennials go first!robotron3k
- Don't be scared of war with a bigger country than Iraq, which has militias all over the Middle East, led by reality star and casino owner Donald Trump.yuekit
- Yep, what could possibly go wrong? Of course U.S. conservatives all thought Iraq was a great idea too.yuekit
- this is one of those "fuck of course this is how 2020 starts" moments. the potential escalation here is terrifying.colin_s
- The Obama's are in mourning right now, apparently Soleimani and Michelle got tight when he was invited to the WH dinner in 2015...robotron3k
- stfu robomonospaced
- The terrorists shit was slowly fading away lately, now it will come back. Thanks Trump.Bennn
- Oh yeah terrorism went extinct under Obama... Pfft.robotron3k
- Oh yeah terrorism went extinct under Trump and bush... Pfft.
your point?pango
- Milan0
- Draft the Millennials 2020!robotron3k
- yes draft the Millennials! I ain't scared!
lolpango
- PhanLo2
Deleted tweet from Big Eric- He's so cooooll....CyBrainX
- These people are disconnected from reality. They act like its a game or somethingBennn
- Dumb Trump Son #2 knew the was going to happen, and the Gang of 8 Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi weren't briefed.mg33
- ^ THIS IS NOT NORMAL. THIS IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS.mg33
- its the only language their base understands. he was obviously talking to their base.pango
- robotron3k-7
Iranian millennials fake protest the death of Suleimani.
These guys just want to be on QBNs COTD thread not fighting with their soft computer hands...
- wut?pango
- From someone on the inside: "the Iranian people are eating their popcorn watching, Iran is surrounded by USA bases, internal protests throughout, the Mulhasrobotron3k
- Need to respond. Suleimani was the very best of all General, the rest are fat fucks. The pressure is on to respond and they will probably react poorly"robotron3k
- BTW, Suleimani also crushed internal student protests in Iran in 2011. He's been propped up by their Gov, but it's great the roach is gone.robotron3k
- ^ lol, admit it, you never heard of this guy before today. Suddenly every American is an expert on Iranian politics.yuekit
- You really are a fucken moron Robo.BusterBoy
- Continuity3
Nothing like starting a little election-year war — especially when impeachment's got you under the weather — to try and bolster your chances, amirite?
- Did you see the footage of the kill? Impeccable American perfection. 2 car fires on the side of the road among manicured shrubs, grass, & sidewalk.robotron3k
- Now we all know, that they just found out how great our military really is.robotron3k
- mg3326
The people who know nothing about this but celebrate it anyways, and don't understand the ramifications for Iran, need to turn the situation upside down and ask themselves something pretty simple:
What if... Secretary of State Mike Pompeo or another top US military or government official were arriving at an airport in the UK - an ally - and he was killed by a drone stroke launched by Iran - a hostile adversary.
How do you think we'd react to that as Americans? As a government? As a military?
Soleimani might have been hugely important for years in terms of Iran's reach and influence on terrorism in the Middle East. But he wasn't a Bin Laden type hiding in the mountains, he was a government official for two decades. His level in government was equivalent to our security of defense or secretary of state positions.
And to those who say "but he was a bad guy and responsible for a lot of American lives lost," I have to ask the question: Are our secretaries of defense or state so innocent? The United States has waged war around the world for decades, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths, many innocent people, attempts at regime change and waging heavy influence on other countries.
People are being incredibly short-sighted if that don't understand that equivalence, and what this situation will likely kick off.
- Shut the fuck up mg33.robotron3k
- Why?mg33
- Triggered much, robo?mg33
- PS: Be careful. Your Drake Von Drake is showing.mg33
- It's all a distraction, from impeachment and to get the red necks on Trumps side for the election.shapesalad
- Suleimani kills for a day job. It's ok he's gone.robotron3k
- And I don't disagree with that. My point was / is, if you see it the way I described it, it's easier to understand the gravity of it for Iran.mg33
- Iran Gov = silly, the people are great and they don't want to fight. The most they can do is mess with the Straights.robotron3k
- True, our military has not killed in the same way Iran has as a major sponsor of terror. But does Iran not see us as an aggressor the same way we see them?mg33
- Re: Iranian people: I hope you're right. I've read enough to know that a massive amount of the Iranian people want change.mg33
- But they have the power and military and reach to fight back a lot worse than Syria or Iraq ever could.mg33
- You guys focus on the negative of a loco President, you really need to focus on the positive parts of crazy. Trump finishes things.robotron3k
- You know mg33, we have been hearing of Iran's strength since forever. But why the hell was Suleimani driving in a car unprotected with 2 other terrorists?robotron3k
- I think you mean Trump "recklessly and impulsively finishes things?" Seriously, where were the Gang of 8 not briefed?mg33
- Why did Eric Trump elude to something serious coming two days before it happened?mg33
- Trump is best friends with the prince of Saudi Arabia, pretending there is some humanitarian or moral principle here is fucking comical.yuekit
- That kill footage should scare Kim Jong or any world leader, Space Force must be in operation is all I can say....robotron3k
- I don't think he would have flown in with a bunch of fanfare. I mean, Iraq is technically still an adversary of Iran, right? Going in low key seems about right.mg33
- robodimwitutopian
- I only imagine intelligence info could be next-level eavesdropping technology disguised as a mosquito.robotron3k
- People were driving by the scene filming from their cars, it looked like a couple of street fires, not a person around, just quiet.robotron3k
- Uh...they shot a car with a drone. Not exactly rocket science.yuekit
- This kind of mentality is what makes me embarrassed to be American. Drooling bloodlust over some guy being killed that you couldn't even name the day before.yuekit
- Suleimani would get up every AM, get his coffee and think of places to attack and people to kill. What were you saying yuekit?robotron3k
- Meanwhile we've spent what? $7 trillion on these pointless conflicts, killed hundreds of thousands of people, and gained nothing from it.yuekit
- The communist left has lost their mind.Hayoth
- And that makes him somehow different from Trump's buddies in Saudi Arabia? Like the guy who literally chopped up a journalist in an embassy?yuekit
- Stop pretending, you don't know or care about who he killed or have any idea about the implications at all. You're just happy that the U.S. bombed something.yuekit
- What was unbelievable was the fuking chopped up guy was a billionaire!!!!!!! And Another thing, Epstein didn't kill himself!robotron3k
- Lol this thread is so fun but I gotta get to work!robotron3k
- lol @ Hayoth with the obligatory and confused "communist" commentmonospaced
- :D i'm with robo, lets just kill a few more world leaders to put the shits up the centrists too.kingsteven
- Hayoth forgot to add fluid-sexuality to that. Because sexual preference is everything to you leftist and you must lead with that, is that right mono?robotron3k
- you guys... :)renderedred
- great comments, but hayoth takes the win with a sole "communist" comment. LOLrenderedred
- oh robo, aside from the fact you're the only one talking about that, it's an MGTOW hallmark to lead with sexual preferences when talking about warmonospaced
- “He kills for a day job” is not an excuse to destabilize relations toward war, including violating the war powers act.cannonball1978
- I thought robo liked Trump because his family has a sour military history, and wanted a pacifist, not Hillary the war monger. Guess not.inteliboy
- @renderedred LOL exactly. "Communist" is the hot new buzzword for dimbulbs these days. Usually slung by people with zero knowlege of the basic tenets..garbage
- ..or brutal history of communism. Over the holidays one of my uncles referred to Biden as a communist. Biden. Could barely not laugh at him.garbage
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</Notes>utopian - When people claim someone is a communist or socialist or a fascist, ask for the textbook definitions of those things. They have no ideamg33
- Let’s argue on the internetautoflavour
- i have to agree with mg33. the US happy pride stuff. mg33 repeats some of the media of him being a killer which i just don't find just. After all he got his********
- fame fighting ISIS... (another us policy issue)********
- but i do question what authority can trump launch a drone strike on iraq soil. however this goes back to obama level drone attack executive authority decisions********
- and legalities. im pretty sick of america acting with impunity adn being hyocritical of anyone acting against our will********
- They were only supposed to blow the bloody doors offGardener
- Continuity3
@mg33:
I appreciate that you — as an individual — find this situation appalling, because it really is.
It's not, however, the least bit surprising that this happened.
The view from outside your country is this: if there's one thing — and one thing only — you Americans love more than your previous guns, it's a good old-fashioned war. You worship it. You celebrate it. It's almost a religion. Not only that, you're collectively so convinced of your inherent superiority relative to the rest of us, that war-starting is a must to maintain the illusion.
Look at the final two candidates in your previous presidential election: a Clinton, whose hubs fancied himself a nice little dust-up when his back was against the wall (though, to be fair, it happened in his second term when he wasn't up for re-election, but still), and who herself couldn't be trusted to not start one of her own; and candidate #2 was a rank moron, the village idiot, who couldn't foreign policy his way out of a wet paper bag.
The candidate your 'great' electoral system went with is the idiot. The one who is owned by the Russians. The one whose apparent purpose is to piss off your allies, and destabilise a world order that has kept things in relatively good working shape since the end of the second world war.
Now, before QBN's own village idiots start accusing me of being a Clinton fan, I am not. She gave me the creeps, and couldn't be trusted any more than the orange knuckle-dragger can be.
But, here's why I brought up the fact you people love war so much: the idiot is in an election year, and he's using this particular occasion to distract from his troubles. And you know what's even more galling? It's going to work. He'll be seen as a 'hero' but the ones who matter the most: the electorate, and he's going to get re-elected thanks to it.
So, now think about the implications of this latest incident:
• The world will become even more destabilised — economically, socially, and politically, quite possibly leading to even more alienation of allies and 'friends';
• The chances of an all-out war have increased dramatically, which would result in stomach-turning civilian casualty figures;
• The likelihood of terrorist counter-attacks in US allied countries around the world — especially in Europe, but don't discount something happening on your soil, too — also resulting in even more civilian deaths.So, conceivably, all of this chaos and spilled blood will happen all because one old white guy is trying to save his political skin, and the culture of warmongering and violence in your country will permit it to happen.
Is any this really good, right, and proper in your view?
- Let's get married. :)mg33
- I thought you'd never ask, baby.Continuity
- Ha. But seriously, that was all really well said.mg33
- Also: *precious, not previous.Continuity
- Every minute Suleimani is not alive, is another minute another human will continue living.robotron3k
- You forgot our biggest American obsession with the Nazi war machine. We have 24 hr channels dedicated to it. Another fact, USA is comprised of 39% Germans ancesrobotron3k
- Continuity, there is no military in Germany correct? Is your country allowed to have?robotron3k
- I just googled and found out Germany doesn't have an army and you guys are STILL having hella trouble with dealing with your war past. Eek.robotron3k
- Yep, there are some real bootlicking tendencies not just among Republicans but many Democrats as well. Can't tell you how many random people I've talked to overyuekit
- Oh, dear. You really are an imbecile.
1) I'm not German. I have a French passport, and a Canadian passport;
2) Germany has an army, a navy, and an air force;Continuity - 3) Germany is a Nato member.Continuity
- the years in the U.S. whose idea of a good foreign policy is, let's nuke the entire Middle East into glass. Simultaneously idiotic and terrifying.yuekit
- Is it any surprise they love to attack other countries? The USA's national anthem is litterally about fighting a war.zarkonite
- We have 2 flags in the USA, right now cannons drawn. This is our peace flag http://barefootsworl… cannons downrobotron3k
- We used it before the Germans got uppity the first time...robotron3k
- Oh my, they can't quit the iron cross nor drab green colors... https://upload.wikim…robotron3k
- Oh and they are civil services Marines and grouped together, army, navy, air are one. The Germs can'thave another Luftwaffe or even a blitzkrieg again, sad.robotron3k
- The fetishization of the military in the USA and "precision killing" is obscene. There's maybe a few regimes out there that compare or possibly outdo the statesben_
- Continuity do u really believe Trump is a russian owned asset? And for an anti war guy i'd think you be happy to hold off a killing this late.********
- and robotron is correct in germanys needing defense. post wwII rules fucked them but as part we got nato, similar to japan.********
- but that wasnt in defense of robo more of a geo political incentive nature. especially with nato and eu politics. If you cant rely on US who will u rely on?********
- much broader scope than the post..********
- Bennn0
Every US President seems to start a war on a moment or another during their 'reign' ... Like they dont want to be in the History books without a good ol war story sticking to them. And yeah, it also look stategic toward re-election.
Remember when I say that Humanz are evolving very slowly. It's just the same story repeating itself since centuries.
- Fax_Benson0
I've no idea what's going on but I don't really see how this will help Trump get re-elected.
A few war-hungry Republicans will like it but weren't lots of his supporters happy that he'd promised to step back from the Middle East?
It won't win over any anti-Trumpers. They'll now be pinning everything little thing that happens in the ME on him, as a direct consequence of this. He's armed his critics and potentially upset some maga people.
Makes more sense re the impeachment?
- His supporters make a big show of being anti-interventionist but when it comes down to it the Republicans and their voters are the reason the U.S. ended up inyuekit
- Iraq in the first place. All this pointless shit over the past two decades...the occupation, ISIS, the fight with Iran...is ultimately thanks to them.yuekit
- Again, PT just popped 2 guys who were known killers and was making plans to kill again. No need for war, the Mullahs wanted him gone.robotron3k
- And polls consistently show conservatives are the most trigger happy. They can't wait to bomb Iran and even North Korea.yuekit
- Yeah, no doubt - but he's already popular with them. Can't see how this wins him anything re the election.Fax_Benson
- I'm not saying it will help or hurt Trump necessarily, but the idea of there are all these anti-war Republicans out there is pretty much a myth.yuekit
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- _niko8
Lol, robo, you cant win a war against a bunch of nomadic, cave dwelling goat fuckers in Afghanistan, what makes you think you can beat Iran who’s got the same terrain, more fighters and a much better equipped military plus the Russians on there side? Lol good luck.
- Oh I forgot, they most likely have nuclear weapons as well._niko
- it´s the positive side of loco... lol , wtf. he is as dumb as trump.neverscared
- you left out China when mentioning Russia... fuckers have been running joint war games together: https://cnn.it/2sJFP…PonyBoy
- china is scary as fuck, they've been playing the slow game since the beginning, and the US outsourcing their shit cut their time to victory a lot soonermoldero
- it's time to start teaching our kids mandarin 'n shitmoldero
- China will rule the World one day or another. They're just buying the whole goddam planet since years.Bennn
- It only took 2 missiles launched in Nevada to perfectly take out 1 human who was a threat to the US, Iran citizens, and military takeover of Iran.robotron3k
- Trump just ended WW3 before Suleimani began it and tons of lives were just saved. Sleep well tonight y'all, Trump's got our back.robotron3k
- ^
https://media.giphy.…nbq - Over the years U.S. has done a lot of terrible things to Iran and vice versa. We supported Iraq in a war that killed about a million of their people,yuekit
- "accidentally" shot down a civilian flight with 300 people on it. But killing this one guy, that's definitely going to intimidate them into giving in to U.S.yuekit
- demands, right? You would have to be an idiot to think it won't simply result in more violence and terrorism further down the line.yuekit
- @robo you got to be trolling, LOLrenderedred
- "trump just ended WW3" hey now :)renderedred
- PonyBoy4
U.S. to send 3,000 troops to Middle East after embassy attack, Soleimani killing
- neverscared0
Stratfor estimates 1.6 million troops would be needed for a full-scale war with Iran. That's a hell of a lot! I believe we currently have 1 million active duty
- robo will be the first to enlistutopian
- ^So will Eric, Don Junior and every red hat wearin MAGAtRamanisky2
- Not really, you need to have a functioning brain to asses a battlefield and follow ordersgrafician
- also just because one can carry a gun doesn't make him a soldier!grafician
- Bennn-2
Iran + Russia + China + North Korea
VS
USA + England + Germany + France + Allies (Canada, Australia, New Zealand and others)
This is scary. Russia and China alone are probably strong enough to take out the World very easily.
- you are on optimist man. yout think gb, germany and france will join? i don't think so. gb maybe since joris is pm.renderedred
- If shit hits the fan, they wont have any other choice but to joinBennn
- Weapons have greatly evolved since WWII, we're on another level of destruction now.Bennn
- Ben you are old fashion, you don't need armies anymore silly...robotron3k
- renderered: did you forget about NATO? ALL of Europe will join. Also there's India which is firmly on our side.zarkonite
- france didn´t join the invasion in iraq, don´t see why any of them should join. & will. maybe gb. i´am speculating, the others no.neverscared
- Lol, Nato will not join unless Putin moves or interstellar war. So good luck with your orange kid playing games with ppls livesgrafician
- Yeah i was talking about a full on scale world war hereBennn
- That never gonna happen. Also there's no world, only Europe, US, Russia and China. The rest will bend. Learn some history please.grafician
- In a few hundred years the world = China.inteliboy
- ^Not really, but that movie Cloud Atlas had it pretty close (the futuristic parts): there will be only caste systems, no matter the nationality.grafician
- ^and the world will be ruled by corporations, which don't give a fuck about nationality or ideology as long as they making moneyzgrafician
- also in geopolitics there's no room for ideologies or "friends/alies" or sides, only mutual interests.grafician
- Russia, with the GDP of Spain, is no longer much of a military threatGnash
- ^Exactly Gnash. China is not doing that well either economically just trying to flexgrafician
- ^ this topic deserves its own thread. Am fascinated by where the world is heading and the power struggles of nations.inteliboy
- ^only if we agree to keep it civilised and only post stuff we know about for a fact pleasegrafician
- uhm how do you create a new post?! :))
I don't see any "create new post" buttons around ffsakegrafician - nvrmind I found it in the hamburger menugrafician
- Boris would no more join in this shitshow than France, Germany or the vast majority of the EU. This is the culmination of Trump's incompetence and his....Eighty
- to deal with alone. Good luck and hope the flag-hugging helped.Eighty
- All this talk and nobody talking about the fact that there aren’t two sides in any of this in the first place.monospaced
- PhanLo8
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Britain agrees to join as long as there is a massive discount on chlorinated chicken.
- OBBTKN0
Relax kids, nothing is going to happen. Only oil and arm investors getting your monies...
- Exactly.grafician
- +1renderedred
- and trump is a pussyhotroddy
- worst thing they can do is to provoke that idiot into a war and turn the world against the us for starting it.sted
- Yeah, just like we won the Iraq war in less than 3 months. Piece of cake!formed
- @formed and a war with iran would be 10 times worse than vietnam.renderedred
- utopian3
- https://twitter.com/…garbage
- The video as well because it's really just insane that anybody still supports Helmet Head.garbage
- And for anyone who is interested, that's the actual name of the hairspray that he uses. Helmet Head. The world is dumb.garbage
- garbage... u are funny... a banned person name funny?********
- yuekit4
Soleimani has fueled a lot of nasty conflicts and killed a lot of people, directly or indirectly, many of them American soldiers — though it's worth noting also that much of his recent effort has been dedicated to fighting ISIS (with great effectiveness, by all accounts) in a tacit uneasy alliance with U.S. forces.
Yet even the worst of Soleimani's record pales in comparison with the most blood-drenched American warmongers. If Soleimani deserves condemnation for arming Iraqi insurgents, then George W. Bush and Dick Cheney deserve 10 times as much for starting the war in the first place. It was a pointless, illegal war of aggression sold on lies that obliterated Iraqi society and killed perhaps half a million people, almost all of them innocent civilians. (Our own Soleimani, General David Petraeus, was connected to the operation of Iraqi torture dungeons and paramilitary death squads during the fight against the insurgency.)
If Soleimani deserves blame for helping Bashar al-Assad brutally defeat Syrian rebels, Henry Kissinger deserves 10 times as much for orchestrating the bombing slaughter of perhaps a quarter million Cambodians and paving the way for the Khmer Rouge genocide that killed 1.7 million people.
If any accused war criminal at an airport is fair game, then there are a lot of people in D.C. and Northern Virginia who better start traveling by train or ship.
Indeed, the Quds Force itself was originally created during the Iran-Iraq War, which was started by a heavily U.S.-backed Saddam Hussein in 1980. A million Iranians died in the grueling eight-year conflict. And the reason the Islamic Republic exists in the first place is because the United States and Britain toppled Iran's fledgling democracy in 1953 and installed a brutal dictator.
It is not exactly hard to understand why Iran — like about every other country in the Middle East — keeps some brutal, hard people like Soleimani around. It's a violent, unstable neighborhood, and war is an unavoidable reality. And no country is more responsible for that fact than the United States.
Chauvinist American commentators always presume America has the best intentions, and that the American military is composed of saintly warrior-poets. The reality is that the lumbering American colossus has unleashed a Thirty Years' War-level of violent chaos all around Iran for no good reason at all. We are ruled by a president who recently reversed the demotion of a guy turned in by his own fellow soldiers for war crimes — namely, gleefully murdering helpless prisoners, old men, and little girls for sport.
- Sort of surprised to see an article like this on a mainstream American news site. Hard to find anything to disagree with here though.yuekit
- All these Americans cheering because "Trump killed the evil terrorist" have the mentality of a 5 year old. It makes sense I guess if you selectively forget theyuekit
- past 50 years of history, including the fact that Trump and his people triggered this most recent confrontation with Iran themselves.yuekit
- yeah but emails._niko
- i agree. but i do find it funny u mentioned bush but left out obama illegal wars and blood on his hands as well********
- especially the legality of use of executive power especiallyw ith drone attacks.********
- I didn't write the article, but seems like he's running through the "highlights" of American war crimes. Obama wasn't up there with Bush or Kissinger.yuekit
- arguing for an hour with my pops picking up my dog on it. bless his heart he is a conservative but being twisted by media in a lump sum them vs us.********
- my pops doesn't stand for anything of todays rep party. But he gets riled up to follow the lesser sorts promoted by media********
- Also give Obama some credit, when it comes to Iran he's the one U.S. president who wasn't chomping at the bit to invade and actually negotiated with them.yuekit
- and starting to repeat shit I know he doesnt even beleive in as talking points (challenge and he'll say wait no but... they said it) all because the********
- out of defensive instinct to radical left. The AOC and types preaching free everything ignoring any democratic process or fiscal repsonsibility********
- he even questioned wehter i was liek my LA sister socialsit liberal type. thinking becuase i challenged view iran guy shoudlnt get murdered i must be socialist********
- liberal type. Bad mouthing america talkign of our foreign policy. he'll get over it or already has. sent him some study material********
- but seeign a change. this polarization of party shit has gotta stop. making peopel lose their objective minds********
- yea ukit obama iran policy was good i thought********
- it was one of the stronger points of his administration********
- syria libya pakistan... not so much, but maybe why he was friendlier to iran********
- nk is trumps iran.. goddamn bs politics. sick ogf these few fuckin leaders who ruin countries for the masses ith no loss to themselves********
- but allies and backdoor deals. im sure saudis will like the increased oil prices with aramcio recent ipo. and dems waitign on a terrorist act now to blame trump********
- hoping the bigger the better.sayign you stupid proud orange turd bragging. no you personally killed X amount********
- its early but i dont like any future scenario from this action********
- but still american policy despite political party has equally done harm. only playing teams for identity politics will never do shit********
- just side line cheerleaders to fuck********
- fucking notesboymonospaced
- everyone cheer for mono and his insecurities!********
- you go girl!********
- insecurity? about what? it's you who has the chip on the shoulder for your failed education and future life planning, not me.monospaced
- I'm just laughing at your habit of writing dozens of notes, and that triggered you into childish name calling. That's textbook insecurity, you fucktard.monospaced
