MacBook/iPad High res
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- gramme
Where do you guys get high-res images for skinning websites and iPad apps? I went to Apple's press photo pages and their EULA looks like it would prohibit use on, say, a portfolio website.
I looked at LiveSurface and their computer screens are outdated. No iPad images.
I need something I can use without restriction on my new website.
- dummies0
Of course to use an iImage image on your site as a display frame infringes on Apple, but more importantly is a cheap ploy to use the Apple name to make yourself look good.
But i digress.
Can you recommend a large leather bound bible for me? I'm thinking of making a gun case out of it.
- gramme0
Seriously?
1. I respect other people's rights, hence my question. I don't mind paying for a stock image, if such a thing is available. I just don't have time to shoot an image or hire a photographer.
2. Skinning a website or an app onto a monitor or iPad provides useful context. That's it, and that's all. For a company that designs for print as well as screen, this is helpful. I don't need Apple products to make myself or my work look good.
3. By your argument, nearly every design firm and agency in the world would be guilty of copyright infringement. From what I've seen, it looks like people are using stock images or renderings. Most firms I've seen are not actually shooting their own pictures of a monitor or iPad.But thanks for the snide remarks, it's very helpful.
- doesnotexist0
imo sites that use a full computer to show a website aren't nearly as successful in showing said work as sites that show a website in a browser. plus if it's just web work, the work is tiny because the computer's there too.
and you can do it a little differently like syrup:
http://www.syrupnyc.com/work/spe…or use it when you're showing new media work across platforms like they do — iphone next to computer &c.
anways...just take apples hi-res images and 'shop the logo out if you're concerned about EULA.
- gramme0
I'm not avoiding your point at all. It's a very weak point, but I'll bite. I'm not looking to use an Apple product in a way that infringes on their intellectual property. I've merely designed some things for use on their devices and need some context when showing the work.
I really don't think other firms who show their work on an Apple monitor or iPad are violating Apple's copyrights. If an industrial design firm were passing an Apple product off as their own, then that would indeed be infringement. But we're not talking about doing anything of the sort.
- ideaist0
Go vector and switch it up a bit homey; customize for the look & feel of your site:
; )
- Now, see? This is helpful. The sarcasm in this case might be deserved. ;)gramme
- What's the difference between this and a press image? Still an Apple product.MarleyMarl
- MarleyMarl0
You're making a mountain out of a mole hole. Do you think Apple gives a shit about you using their image in a mock-up?
- utopian0
If anything by using Apple related photographs of their: laptops, iphones, ipads, etc... in our portfolios we are helping perpetuate and expanding their brand. Apple should be at least thanking us if not paying us for all of the free advertisement and product placement.
- dummies0
Weak? More like solid. Simply put, to use the Apple mark & images w/o permission is an infringement. Anything past that point that is subjective justification. IE lying to yourself.
- gramme0
Dude, give it a rest. I had no intention of showing Apple's logo (In any event, I would've photoshopped it out), and if Apple isn't cool with people using their press photos for self promo purposes, then fine. This is why I asked if anyone had a different source for images of Apple products, and several people offered useful suggestions.
Move along.
- MarleyMarl0
Personally I prefer this way of showing online work. The whole screen mockup is played.
- MarleyMarl0
If you think using a vector of an Apple product vs. an image is not infringing on copyright you're wrong. And removing their logo doesn't mean shit. The product itself and the design is what's protected and therefore can't be used without permission.
- dummies0
even without the logo, the industrial design of their product is highly protected, your continued brainwash response of "everyone is doing it" and now "I'm going to remove the logo" further defines the absolute point that you know you're doing something wrong but want to edit it to make it yours and sharing the blame with the large number of others doing it makes you just another lost sheep looking for a shepherd with the defense of "i didn't know", though it's obvious you're just ignoring what you don't want to hear.
if you didn't care to do the right thing, why did you ask? obviously you're in this for your interests only. have you ever read a stock photo agreement, they state to avoid brand logos for this exact reason.
I'll safely presume you know why you wish to use the Apple products and appearance for your display, you're banking off their success and trying to imply the same success through yourself by placing it alongside another more successful product, the Apple products.
- the industrial design is protected against use in another industrial design applicationAmicus
- gramme0
Couldn't that same logic be applied to using a standalone Safari (or for that matter, Chrome, Firefox, etc...) browser window?
- MarleyMarl0
If you want to use the image then step off your moral high horse and just use the fucking image. If that's too much for your conscience to handler then figure out something else. End of conversation.
- dummies0
of course, however you would have to check with the license holder directly to check permissions & limits of use. I'm sure there is something to be found online regarding the use of such images, this is why you have to gain permission.
You have to understand these rules are their for their brand protection. while you feel there is no harm/no foul, it is impossible for you to know what a brand wishes to be associated with.
porn sites may not be taken in the same league here as say a photography site but I'm sure the don't want the porn portfolio site wrapped in safari & a macbook pro images, that's not the association they want. what if the photography is horrible and not to apple standards?
you need to understand this saturation of shit wrapped in Apple will in the long run be detrimental to the success of the exclusivity that Apple sells. Which is exactly why things like your inital observation exist;
"I went to Apple's press photo pages and their EULA looks like it would prohibit use on, say, a portfolio website."
You have the answer, now abide by it.
- Apple owns the press images on their website. I get it. But I don't think they own every image in the world that has an Apple product in it.gramme
- Apple product in it.gramme
- everytime you see apple in another ad or on a tv show they have permission. i've done work for agencies, i know the rulesdummies
- gramme0
Dummies, you're making a lot of baseless assumptions. Let me be clear that I haven't done ANYTHING yet. I'm merely looking for the best way to present my web and app work. I brought up what you call the "everyone is doing it" point because I assumed that many of the more well-respected firms who, being possessed of a clear understanding of intellectual property, had found a way to show their work skinned onto Apple product screens, in a way that didn't break any laws. Maybe I was wrong. I actually do care about respecting copyrights; if you knew anything about me you'd know that already.
Your last presumption is incorrect and utterly absurd, I've already addressed it, and if you don't like my answer then that's just too bad.
This kind of horse shit reminds me why I rarely come here anymore.
- Horseshit? The facts are horseshit?MarleyMarl
- We apparently have different ideas about the facts.gramme
- Also, regardless of what's true or untrue, there's no need for anyone to act like an asshole.gramme
- Re: horseshit, I was referring to several assumptions dummies makes, as well as the way he jumped down my throat unprovoked.gramme
- without any provocation.gramme
- Gnash0
gramme - you can get images (layered) for the iPhone and iPad here:
http://www.teehanlax.com/downloa…
- Gnash0
I can't think of many examples of an app or device specific website that wasn't featured in context. I find it helpful and I think most consumers do as well. If apple had a problem with it they would have noted it in their developer agreements.
- dummies0
according to teehanlax, things aren't on their side either...
"we’ve painstakingly recreated everything in Photoshop as fully editable shapes layers (works best with Photoshop CS5)."
in other words they took a lot of screen shots and extracted the pieces, doesn't sound Apple approved or provided. then as we continue, their license says...
"License: The sole purpose of this file is to help you pitch, design and build amazing software. It can't be repurposed as your own, nor can it be broken apart and used to create similar tools."
Which is invalid because they are trying to license for their effort of dissecting another party's assets.
Apple would provide something like this if they wanted developers to have it.
- gramme0
So dummies, I have a question for you. How would you show web or app work in context, in a way that you were sure didn't pose any sort of trademark infringement? I'm genuinely interested. Would you just show the layout and hope people can tell it's a website or an app?