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issue has little to do with guns. there are crazy ppl you cant predict and just well writeoff as shrink as shit is gonna happen. but the case of el paso. a stupid young kid. why cant someone tell him his fear of culture shock and immigration is normal. Hes not even evil for feeling it. That shit changes, despite media wanting climate change to stay the same, and all the status quo, but anti status quo dialogue, shit changes and little we can do about it. But acknowledge the fear from it and not force it as black and white evil and good. It forces it into sides (a tool often used in political media). Gay kids are evil for thinking or feeling homo shit. Yet people who fear any basic racial feeling are scared to speak or talk about it out of fear of being labeled a racist. Which is absolutely human feeling and concern with our tribal nature, now has to hide it and let it fester and fear turns to resentment, and hatred and than with todays social media buzz as needed action to fill the vacuum, to do something. Our culture is the problem far more than a inert tool. Want to REALLY fix shit get rid of the political party game. Look at the human element. Understand it and question wether our current narrative of things like racism is working? Have we from a MSM point completely misunderstood it on political ad buys
- This argument is ridiculous, and garbage.nb
- And lazy.nb
- what an appropriate usernamezaq
- patheticmonospaced
- Embarrassing.Ramanisky2
- What. The. Fuck.
Dude literally spelled out "Trump" with guns. Put down the skull bong and sober up.BonSeff - nocapn_ron
- Deathboy's more ignorable than robo - at least robo is concise.Nairn
- His argument is that racism is natural, and it’s the status quo, and we have to accept it. Then blames the media? Fuck off.monospaced
- Pride in your heritage does not mean hate for another's. How is that fucking complicated?BonSeff
- This isn't remotely true anyway. Racists aren't feeling like they have to hide. They are more and more emboldened as politicians like Trump make racismyuekit
- normal and acceptable. Go on YouTube, you will find channels with huge followings devoted to white identity politics and hate for immigrants.yuekit
- If you read the guy's "manifesto", there isn't much original thinking there, it's just regurgitating stuff he read online. In fact you could even say the entireyuekit
- killing was him showing off to the online far right community.yuekit
- Get some help bro.ben_
- haha. why do people feel more comfortable amongst similar superficial traits?********
- if you keep telling people to ignore normal feelings expect them to lash out more. psych 101. anthro 101. THINK about it.********
- hard not to suggest todays MSM rhetoric didn't justify in his eyes his actions. And yuekit racist is label not really a thing. fear is a thing.********
- fear has a fight or flight nature. and im very curious why people think trump is racist? Hes got a nationalistic sell and beats non-americans... but is********
- their a hot pussy of some gender he wont grab? Doesn't strike me as the type. True racists who shape fear and build an identity around hate to deal with it********
- are disgusted by anyone of appearance of their label********
- Seriously dude get some help. Here you are trying to justify the actions of a mass murderer, implying it's the media's fault somehow because they dared toyuekit
- speak out against racism (as if that's a bad thing). Perhaps it's time for some self-reflection in terms of how you arrived at this point.yuekit
- When your ramblings are coherent (which isn't often) they seem contrarian at best. Stirring the pot for the hell of it I guess or do actually believe this shit?ben_
- im not trying to justify anything. im trying to understand. ME looking at base human fundamentals. YOU at it is a monster called hate and racism! And guns! evil********
- haha thank god i can still talk common sense without getting burned at the stake.********
- the way you react i think things will only become more common place. you reinforce it.********
- Is there any evidence at all for what you're saying? The guy wrote a lot about why he committed the killings. Nothing about being scared or ashamed to expressyuekit
- himself, or intimidated by liberals. In fact he was happy and eager to express his racist views. So this is something you made up, not based in reality.yuekit
- ... again... the idea of racism is derived of fear. fear unchecked and festered develops into new constructs. irrational hate is one. but to focus on the symp********
- tom has little to do with the cause. what caused his racism yuekit? born with it like a gay gene? biological, cultural? what do you believe creates hate based********
- on something arbitrary as race? The kid is a dumb kid and clearly working out emotions and sad to say he fucked up and well probably gonna die for it********
- but the nonsense that created this is only building. expect more unless people start talking common sense, but no one wants that********
- doesn't sell papers, is quite boring and doesn't feel like you are doing anything of significance.********
- and a bit insulted you think my view in ungrounded from reality. a made up view. ill accept it if you explain the cause of shooter with any reason at all. "hate********
- " has absolutely 0 to do with motive, same as "racist" just terms with no meaning in the context of cause.********
- Your theory was that he felt ashamed of his racism and bullied by the liberal media, to the stop where he snapped and gunned down a bunch of Mexicans.yuekit
- But there's no evidence for that at all. Can you name any? Seems much more likely that he was inspired by the far right, considering that he recited a bunch ofyuekit
- their talking points.yuekit
- my theory is a theory. no evidence since its not being examined. Your theory is fearless people jump on media bandwagons with no motivation and just act as dict********
- ated... which theory is more believable?********
- you don't even acknowledge what would make someone listen to " the far right" why listen to them instead of anyone else... why not AOC? what are********
- the obvious factors? are you really acknowledging his written reason has nothing to do with anything nor his situation?********
- and simply writing it off as racist hate? i know you are better than that one. or at least i thought you were********
- Seems pretty obvious that he was a mentally disturbed individual who got influenced by right wing media and their hysterical views about immigration.yuekit
- It's actually not unusual at all for unstable people to latch onto extreme views and conspiracy theories. I've seen it happen before to people in real life.yuekit
- What's so unbelievable or difficult to understand about that? And why put quotes around far right, as if a far right nationalist anti-immigrant movementyuekit
- doesn't actually exist? This trend of inventing alternative facts and justifications that let one side off the hook is getting a little old by now.yuekit
- haha whos inventing alternative facts here? you seem to be saying yours are correct while mine are false.********
- have u ever felt xenophobia of a sort ukit? a fear liek sometimes looking over a cliff and getting vertigo. fear is an interesting thing.********
- on one hand it holds us back on another it actually increases survival rate. what the kid wrote about was based on fear.********
- somehting he felt. the problem is media especially on mediums liek youtube targetign kids is targeting emotion********
- its nothing to do with politics but fear of change and changing cultures. as looking at how that is happening is a better use of time and resources********
- Muslim Jihadists are also motivated by fear of changing culture, are you saying they have a point as well? Some fears are justified while others are irrational.yuekit
- Your state or city getting a few percent more Hispanic isn't a rational fear. Realistically how is that going to impact your life at all?yuekit
- yes jihadists are motivated by fear of changing culture. the fear they feal is the point. feel like im repeating myself... the fear they feel is natural.********
- as natural as gay feelings and it's not even irrational. poitn being people feel shit. you tell peopel theyre evil for feeling shit what do you expect the react********
- ion to be? to say ok? or build constructs in their heads against those telling them what they feel is wrong and theyre wrong. media may push narratives but our********
- is more to blame when it comes to dealing with such shit. media just fans flames already there. accept the difference and educate that you may fear but its********
- not wrong its natural. fear for x or y reasons adn your not bad for it. but a and b reasons is why there really is no fear necessary. education********
- I disagree. Take the example of someone radicalized by ISIS, you're saying it's normal for them to want to return to Mohammed era and build a caliphate?yuekit
- It's natural to want to oppress women and start chopping heads? No, these ideas were planted in their head by extremist online media.yuekit
- People like that are often alienated from society, failure in life etc...which makes them susceptible to extreme ideas that seem to offer an answer.yuekit
- But that doesn't mean the ideas themselves are valid somehow. Look at the El Paso shooter, in his manifesto he recited a mish mash of random ideas that heyuekit
- obviously got from various sites and YouTube channels. And I would say there is a lot of similarity between someone like him on the far right and an ISISyuekit
- member in terms of the radicalization process.yuekit
- Ianbolton7
Deathboy > I don't really rise to this stuff but it's something I actually see as a problem. You say culture shock and immigration are normal things to be scared of? Are they? Should they be? Guns might not be the direct problem, but they seriously don't help. I see it as a deeper political agenda when governments spout things like computer game violence or misunderstood mental health being the reason these things are happening. I see it as a reason to give corporations like Facebook and Google more monitoring power to close down free speech and further control the internet. To collect more data on our habits further understanding how they can keep the control they desire so much. I see it as a half-assed way of integrating more and more big brother-style narratives as a form of policing the state via the internet. It's the neo-liberalist culture we're seeing develop in the west in order to give them more and more power, spreading fear and bullshit. Surely you see it all the time? Our inability to control the internet or limiting our own personal use of it is fucking us up. White supremacy and islamaphobia are simple stories that scare people into thinking the world is a cesspit of violence and hate. You come off the internet and realise in real life people are genuinely pretty good to each other, just our anxieties are ramped up by yet more fear. The fact that more people kill THEMSELVES globally than any war, conflict or terrorism now shows quite clearly that political power and their agendas to protect themselves and their establishments are causing more societal unrest than we are personally? Or am I chucking up yet more conspiratorial nonsense!!
- Yes they are. Should they be? Years of evolution can decide. Fear is a funny thing.********
- The rest seems to have little to do about guns. Like does drugs help us deal with fear and anxiety or contribute to problems.********
- and by this post are you suggesting a better state that control information like china is better? Not sure what you are trying to suggest....********
- Yes they are. Should they be? Years of evolution can decide. Fear is a funny thing.
- allthethings3
- oh man, uh.. simply trueBonSeff
- Learn from Canada; get less political. Way less.
https://www.zerohedg…******** - https://www.latimes.…********
- Rue McClanahan, no doubt.elahon
- Krassy1
Insane headline:
Demand for bulletproof backpacks surging in the wake of shootings
- mg331
The incels at GodlikeProductions have it all figured out...
- https://i.redd.it/v8…Ramanisky2
- here wo go...renderedred
- Minethurn sounds like something a two year old would say playing canylandBonSeff
- Bennn0
Just read a story in the local news of a man who've made an home invasion 1 week ago and beat up the two owners, in the middle of the night.
That made me think, do you think having a gun that shoot blank bullets would be a good thing as a deterrent against home invasion? Instead of having a real gun, I guess hearing someone shooting blank bullets at a trespasser would be a very effective way to scare the shit out him.
Just thinking out loud. I guess you'd say, 'yeah but if the intruder have a real gun and start shooting at you, you're fucked' ... yeah I guess.
- Why not make a bazooka sound machine... jesus fuck.BonSeff
- FACT: In 100% of all fake gun related shootings, the victim is ALWAYS the one with the fake gunpango
- Ok then, but in Canada there's way less guns than US, home invasions rarely have guns involved. Just image hearing guns shots in a dark house you just broke in.Bennn
- I would get the fuck off if i were an intrudersBennn
- Home invasions in Toronto are almost always armed. What do they use in Montreal?Gnash
- And that’s only because they are usually gang relatedGnash
- Often they use blunt weapons and hit people who are frozen in fear..Bennn
- I don’t hear about people dying during home invasions that often. Is it a big problem that happens a lot?monospaced
- we have a few of them every years over here, never or rarely people die, but people get hurts and traumatized for sure.Bennn
- Rarely happen in the city, almost always in the subburbs and countrysideBennn
- I guess home invasions are uncommon un the US because everyone has guns!Bennn
- Found a link full of stats for Canada: http://securehouse.c…Bennn
- Another link, for US https://brandongaill…Bennn
- Krassy0
Not sure if there's a QBN thread for Stabbing of the Day, so posting this horrific story in this here thread:
4 dead, 2 wounded in Southern California stabbings
- Jo Rogan talked about all those violent crimes are almost all commited by people on prescription drugs. And US is crazy over prescription drugs... and gunz..Bennn
- And once again, a man. Never women. Men have some serious violent issues.Bennn
- 2 women just today in Pittsburgh stabbed, one died from her injuries.
Apparently random and by a man, of course.Ramanisky2 - And the victims are usually men, as well. Last year there 30,000 murders in Mexico. Less than 400 of those were womenGnash
- @Bennn yes, i had read stats somewhere suggesting most all mass shootings in the past 20 years were perpetrated by people on prescription drugsKrassy
- Rogan talked about how drugs puts you in some kind of disconnected from reality mode, everything seems like a simulationBennn
- *some drugsBennn
- link?Krassy
- i think it was in this segment: https://www.youtube.…Bennn
- from 2:30 markBennn
- Its not that simple and you know it.monospaced
- of course, i know, he knows. we all know. Its a very complicated topic for sureBennn
- So Joe's the expert now?pango
- he's not, but talks to a lot of experts in so many field. he says it in the video.Bennn
- To even imply there's a single reason for any of this is infuriating, sorry. There may be a connection with pharma, but I don't buy it as even a primary reason.monospaced
- If there's a connection, it's weaker than video games. The vast majority of people on these drugs aren't killing people, and there's no statistical correlation.monospaced
- i think its a connection of many factors that can lead someone to commit a mass murder.Bennn
- like, personal problems + some mental problems (depression, anxiety, etc) + presc. drugs + internet brain washing. its just an example.Bennn
- yes, it's multi-faceted ... and when people start to blame just one almost-insignificant area (video games, or drugs) as if it's a solution, it's infuriatingmonospaced
- @mono It's definitely multi-faceted, no doubt about that; however there IS statistical correlation as it related to psychotropic drugs:Krassy
- Every mass shooting between 1993-2013 shared one thing in common - psychotropic drugs.Krassy
- having said that, still, correlation does not necessarily equal causationKrassy
- We could probably name hundreds, if not THOUSANDS or millions of things that were common among them. I would bet none of them were the causation.monospaced
- Now, there are many millions of people on those same drugs. But none of them are racist, white supremacist domestic radicalized christian terrorists. So, NO.monospaced
- Oh, another thing that was common among them: easy as fuck access to killing machines. And a government that won't do jack shit about it. Correlation undeniablemonospaced
- But sure, if you want to blame pharma and turn a blind eye, go ahead. It's about as lazy and irresponsible as anything, but it works for repbulican asshats.monospaced
- I think the Internet play a HUGE role in these, particularly in the last years. Some people brain wash themseves and become obsessed by a topic.Bennn
- Internet creates and feeds the rage in some individuals.Bennn
- In and of itself it does no such thing, but like anything, it's got its dark corners of hate. Doesn't help that the current president encourages it.monospaced
- #bebestmonospaced
- Mono, making something illegal doesn't get rid of it. Where there's a will, there's a way. We need to worry about WHY crimes are perpetrated and not HOW.Krassy
- Violence is a complex issue It involves an array of factors - (lack of) family values & sense of belonging, bullying, mental health, hatred, intolerance, etcKrassy
- If you think that’s what I’m saying then you’re not listening.monospaced
- And if your excuse is that laws don’t do anything, then that is a bigger and more pathetic cop out than anything imaginable. I also NEVER mentioned laws.monospaced
- you implying laws (or lack of) : "easy as fuck access to killing machines. And a government that won't do jack shit about it"Krassy
- utopian0
The Next Mass Shooting Bump
- utopian1
Wow, that didn't take long!
Man armed with AR-15 kills 2 in rush hour traffic
- According to police sources, a large trash bag with marijuana was in their car. Investigators are looking at all possible motives.robotron3k
- motive is irrelevantmonospaced
- motive is irrelevant... im scared the day public judges think the same way********
- *yawn, missing the point again, I seemonospaced
- elahon3
FUCKING IDIOT ASHOLES. Those NRA pockets run deep...
"Walmart Removes Violent Video Game Displays, Keeps Selling Guns"
- it's just hopeless at this pointBennn
- Ahahaha, only in america.ApeRobot
- "According to police sources, a large trash bag with marijuana was in their car. Investigators are looking at all possible motives."robotron3k
- Wrong side noterobotron3k
- So basically they don’t sell video games anymoreGnash
- So basically, Republicans won't address the issue. Typical ethically-void, morally fucked, assholes.monospaced
- Big Corps are running this country. There's too much money involved in the gun industry.Bennn
- games industry, dominated by big corps, must be similarly sized?Fax_Benson
- wait... they're not removing video games. Just the fancy displays/in-store POP.Gnash
- Bennn this has nothing to do with big corp. The gaming industry is MASSIVE compared to gun makers. Guns are just popular.zarkonite
- Ramanisky20
Wait, so ... this is supposed to be the same guy?
On right is the police mug shot of the El Paso shooter.
- they are different ppl. must be a mistake,Beeswax
- Different Lenses do weird shit like this actually. It could be him.monospaced
- Beeswax1
The gun lobby is not only evil but they are idiots as well.
If it's about self defense, why don't gun makers get a little innovative and instead of semi-autos, they invent long range tasers, advanced shock guns, light blasters etc that is as effective as real guns and but don't kill.
They can make money selling those shit.But wait, this isn't really about self defense right.
- when was the last attempted armed insurrection in turkey? Guns are defense primarily from gov. They are also recreational and home defense.********
- clay shooting is fun and so is opening up any semi auto or hell even auto. no different than golf or tennis.********
- not to mention its a natural right owning infringes on no one. to ban it opens up ability to ban a lot of other things unseemingly********
- why not beef. beef kills X amount of people based on climate change info. Cares on petro... to debase a natural right in a free state you have to be concerned********
- baby step precendence and slippery slopes********
- and yes you are right it has little to do with self defense and freedom of natural rights********
- “opening up any semi auto or hell even auto. no different than golf or tennis.”
Haha haha.fooler - Why can’t I own a nuclear weapon. Or a jet fighter with missiles? Or a cache of Anthrax? (Or can I?) isn’t that also the “right to bear arms”hardhat
- You aren't the brightest either are you?Hayoth
- hard hat you can own any such devices where as im concerned. if you use it against others though you lose all rights to life********
- when was the last attempted armed insurrection in turkey? Guns are defense primarily from gov. They are also recreational and home defense.
- utopian0
- They will finally, watch.robotron3k
- Great spot too.robotron3k
- LolPhanLo
- utopian4
An attack by a gunman at a Norwegian mosque on Saturday will be investigated as a possible act of terrorism, police said on Sunday.
#MAGA International
