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- GeorgesII
We all know one, we probably work with one,
why does the media constantly ignores the epidemic proportions of the "legal" drug abuse,
look at the last 10 shootings, all of shooters involved in them were under the influence of one or another mental meds.
why can't we just have an honest debates that it is not the guns that are killing people but the over consumption of psychotropic medications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…
(read the side effects)
- lowimpakt0
have you a link discussing the last 10 shootings / medication link?
i think it's worth pointing out that mental health issues such as aspergers don't, in themselves, correlate to violence.
- uan0
I wouldn't say the media ignores the prescription drug abuse problem...a search on nyt (to pick 1 of the most read online newspapers) reveals pages and pages of articles about the subject: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/re…
your statement has this bitter 'conspiracy theory' aftertaste.
- GeorgesII0
sorry, here are some links I saved up,
mental issue doesn't lead to violence, I actually think those we categorise as "crazy" are just misunderstood,
http://www.cchrint.org/tag/colum…
http://www.madinamerica.com/2012…
http://www.sfgate.com/health/art…
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sorry for the long copy/pasta1. Huntsville, Alabama – February 5, 2012: 15-year-old Hammad Memon shot and killed another Discover Middle School student Todd Brown. Memon had a history for being treated for ADHD and depression. He was taking the antidepressant Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions." He had been seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist.
2. Kauhajoki, Finland – September 23, 2008: 22-year-old culinary student Matti Saari shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine. He was also seeing a psychologist.
3. Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amount of Xanax in his system. He had been seeing a psychiatrist.
4. Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then committed suicide.
5. Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant Trazodone.
6. Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7 before killing himself.
7. Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking "medication for depression". He had previously seen a psychiatrist.
8. Wahluke, Washington – April 10, 2001: Sixteen-year-old Cory Baadsgaard took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates and a teacher hostage. He had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.
9. El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School. He had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.
10. Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2001: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding one.
11. Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated with the stimulant Ritalin when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.
12. Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26 others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox. Klebold's medical records remain sealed. Both shooters had been in anger-management classes and had undergone counseling. Harris had been seeing a psychiatrist before the shooting.
13. Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.
14. Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 25. Kinkel had been taking the antidepressant Prozac. Kinkel had been attending "anger control classes" and was under the care of a psychologist.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/…
- gabriel20
So people with histories of violent behavior committed acts of violence? In each of those instances you posted they were exhibiting some kind of abnormal behavior before being medicated, thus saying that drugs are the sole cause is not really correct.
- why are you assuming they had a history of violence? care to elaborateGeorgesII
- Read the backgrounds for each of those incidents.gabriel2
- did you? low asked for source, I provided, I would love if you can link some more indepth article on the personality of the shootersGeorgesII
- I'm not going to do your research for you, these are all very easily googlablegabriel2
- gabriel20
Would also like to point out that every one of them used guns. Just sayin....
- gabriel20
Don't get me wrong, there most definitely is a problem with simply tossing drugs at mental health issues. But removing easy access to weapons capable of slaughtering people wholesale is the first and easiest step to take. Another common thread with everything you posted there was that the people who committed these acts had relatively easy access to the weapons they used. Would they have been able to do it if there were significant hurdles in place preventing them from acquiring these weapons?
- moldero0
some people need these drugs, like this kid:
LOL 1:09 WTF??
I hope his parents dont have guns in the house.but for "normal" people with typical problems like the large majority, we need our emotions to deal with our problems, if you suppress emotion, you suppress creativity, and how can you solve anything without creativity.
- ernexbcn0
Pills might have something to do but having easy access to highly effective weapons is also a thing right?