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a product could be anything you might license or sell the concept of
like vitamin water or instagram
Interesting thread. Very relevant to my life. I had no idea that someone doing Digital could consider themselves a Product Designer. Product to me means something tangible (an object that you can touch in 3-D). But it is good to hear that the title means something else because my title right now is product designer but I don't do anything digital.
Sometimes a product designer of software goes beyond just the intricacies of coding and technical workings of the computer where the main responsibilities of a software designer lives. The experience of software still needs to extend itself into the selling, packaging, retail display, advertising, marketing, and sales.
Product = actual product, ie. atoms.
Anyone confusing a Product Designer for someone who shunts electrons into mobile phones, or whatever, has been caught up in Industry Bullshit for too long.
I thought the point of this thread was that it was a fad for electron shunters and pencil pushers to move into atom-fiddling which is what I know a few of us QBNers have done over time.
No one understands what a user experience designer does or an information architect or a creative director...and on and on. Isn't that pretty typical across board for our industry?
When I tell people I'm a product designer who design software they immediately think I'm an engineer.
Our industry gets so ruffled by job titles. Who cares? If someone gets an inflated title how does that effect you?
Also, agree with Monkey Shine. Software companies refer to their software as the product. Someone designs it, they're a product designer. I don't think anyone is confused by that. When I tell people I'm a product designer no one things I mean furniture.
the job titles change, but do boring the meetings stay the same?
^ but a product designer to most people is someone that designs physical products. I never said I'm confused, I said it is a confusing term. Why confuse things and call yourself a product designer when you design software? It seems... unintelligent and lacks clarity... imo
^ disagree. Software is product. Whether software is delivered via web app or client side is less and less relevant. Product designers design software. It's not really that confusing.
I think its a stupid and confusing term. "Product" already has a definition and it doesn't include websites and apps. Why confuse things...
product designer is like mixing Micheal Jordan's mother, and the Chicago Bull's coach to make a great basketball player.
While the Art Director is the one who makes all the posters, video ads, and ticket stubs to sell him.
Nobody here has said anything accurate about what product design encompasses
accounting does design
Product Designer is a very specific term. If you're going to say it, you're going to need to produce something from nothing. A new & unique item within the existence of others, be it a digital or tangible product. Anything less than that is conceptualization or simply a designer with some UX/UI comprehension.
*files under who gives a fuck*
Web designer is the new programmer / developer.
and more often than not a complete waste of salary.
in the ad world probably yes
...is the new "Art Director" then