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- rabbit0
I work exclusively in WP and Drupal.
I would recommend learning WP, then when you use Drupal you will be like WOW. Drupal fucking ROCKS. lol.
Drupal is awesome, WP is awesome.
- Why learn only WP? That is like targeting only males for some product? Learn both, double your income potential?rabbit
- I've used Drupal, it's double the learning curve. I agree, both would be kind of great to know inside outbklyndroobeki
- I have never had a client request for Drupal - if I did I may leanr it.fadein11
- organicgrid0
Wordpress developers are a dime a dozen.
I currently pay between $150-$300 for a Wordpress website. I know plenty of developers charging under $100 per theme. There is no money to be made in Wordpress development unless you have a dozen new clients per month, you are working on extremely large and complicated WP projects, or you live in a third-world country.Either way...best of luck.
- wow - you have the wrong clients - my Wordpress sites are 20 x that minimumfadein11
- out of interest what websites do you make money on?fadein11
- lol @ $100 theme from India. Good luck with that.fadein11
- organic... you can't be serious w/those prices... ??PonyBoy
- fuck off with those Mickey Mouse prices. Shitty Wordpress developers are a dime a dozen, good ones are notMilan
- ArmandoEstrada0
We are wrapping up a site, lots of customization, $30k.
- please share the link, I'd love to see itformed
- Launches 2 weeks.ArmandoEstrada
- Yep - I have just finished a £20K site - launching soon. Me and one other dev. Loads of custom stuff but not that much, mainfadein11
- bit was porting data from Joomla form their old - well not main but a big part of job.fadein11
- fadein110
Really to say Wordpress jobs are $100 - $300 is just plain stupid.
I have done Wordpress jobs from £500 (v.basic bought theme setup) - £20K (custom theme, heavy customisation, complex port of data from Joomla) - thats 2 of us working on a project - not a team. There is plenty of money to be made form Wordpress. And for me as a designer / front end coder - it opened up a whole new revenue stream - me doing the CMS (on small - medium jobs) not having to pay a programmer to write or use a complex CMS. And as designers we all know the pain of workiing with back end devs sometimes - think they are the messiah often and have you over a barrel because only they know the stuff. Wordpress and similar changed all that.- just finished a site for 16kbklyndroobeki
- fadein, damn you just called my recent experience working with a dev. figuring i can DIY since i have a grip on a lot already.bklyndroobeki
- what does "have you over a barrel" mean? is that a Brit saying?bklyndroobeki
- < yep - similar to 'hold you to ransom'fadein11
- pango0
Any source to learn that stuffs?
i need to start learn that stuffs now... :(
also some basic coding :(- Code Academy?ArmandoEstrada
- Anything that holds my hand and does everything?pango
- renderedred0
I work with WP for something like 10 years already. Some valid points mentioned here. Rather study PHP/MySQL + CSS + JS if you can, then it doesn't matter which CMS you work with. Most WP sites I built are low budget simple template sites. Once in a very long while I get to work on a bigger or more interesting site based on WP. On the other hand, WP is a major CMS. I think it does depend a lot where you live and the market there. When I find myself explaining the difference between WIX and WP, you know, it's not really fun...
- Really not much need for studying mySQL these days - terrible advice (unless creating the CMS not using it)fadein11
- so you haven't used custom queries in WP ever, i see...renderedred
- yep but custom queries are not SQL language - just PHP.fadein11
- bklyndroobeki0
^ working w/ a team?
- Me (code) + 1 Designer (owner).ArmandoEstrada
- did the same here too.bklyndroobeki
- microkorg0
Magento is a good thing to learn.
Good magento devs are hard to come by.
- bklyndroobeki0
Figure it can't be a bad decision.
I'm a pretty good Designer heheh
- nylon0
bklyndroobeki - I'd love to connect. I could potentially give you lots of work
- nocomply0
I should also add, to me WordPress is just a tool for achieving a client's end goals - a tool I happen to be very comfortable with.
In terms of making a living off of WordPress, I think a lot of it also comes down to communicating with clients, listening to them, and understanding and solving their problems.
Those are necessary skills no matter what language or framework you're working with, and those skills will stick with you for life.
- I agree with everything you have said in these 2 comments - well said.fadein11
- estetic0
I would concentrate on learning html,css,js, and php if you don't already have a good handle on those areas.
If you understand those parts you can work your way through any of the php based CMS's. I don't see devoting 6 months to only wordpress as a smart move - if you know PHP it shouldn't even take that long.
Beyond that - take a look at Craft as your goto CMS. Lots of buzz at the moment and awesome to work with.
- he's not a fulltime developer so focussing on one CMS makes way more sense.fadein11
- vaxorcist0
WP can make simpler things even simpler, but if you are building larger applications, it may make things difficult to embed your app within wordpress.
- bklyndroobeki0
super encouraging. will report back in a few mos.
- formed0
I think it's a good decision. WP has a real hold on the market and I think we are only seeing the beginning of possibilities.
If you can really customize things, the possibilities are pretty good. You can make some amazing stuff and still have that backend.
I do know that finding someone that is really good, that can customize things with an eye for detail, is rare thing and would be very valuable. I interviewed and reviewed dozens and dozens of WP programmers before hiring one (many promise, tons of crap out there, very few "good" programmers).
- ukit20
Spending a few months learning something isn't going to pigeon hole you. Considering how many sites are now based on WordPress, it will be a useful thing to know for a while.
- Milan0
I'm currently learning Craft CMS, love it so far
- nylon0
Im a designer and NOT a coder. God I wish I knew Wordpress... Easy money