QBN Sacramento, CA
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- yurimon0
never forget what you are missing...
- 5timuli0
If Sacramento is the armpit, San Jose is the crotch. I'd live in the Sac way before SJ, which has no personality whatsoever – cultural black hole.
Sac: 2hrs to Tahoe, ~1.5-2hrs to SF (on average) and I've been to some good places there (although can't trmeb any from being in a booze haze).
- teh0
I am looking in Arden-Arcade area East of East Sac. A Koi stream outside every unit. What?!?
- organicgrid0
50 Things You Must Do in Sacramento
http://www.sacmag.com/Sacramento…
- teh0
WOW! Thanks everyone!
We may need a QBN Sacramento Drinks thread soon!
- sarahfailin0
I had a Bay-Aryan ask me if Sacramento had an airport. Their view of Sac is clearly demented. Before too long, rent even in Oakland will be so high, they'll all be living out here and taking the high speed rail to commute to SF.
...did we mention the high speed rail is coming?
- sublocked0
@Cosmodrome +1 ...this exactly:
"The Bay Areans will tell you it’s shit, but they conveniently forget SF and Oakland are surrounded by strip mall suburbs they hate and millionaire enclaves they can’t afford."
- Cosmodrome0
Agree with everything Sarahfailin said. I grew up in the East Bay, moved to Sac and never looked back. Anything you want, you can find here. You just gotta look.
If you want the city experience, explore around Midtown. The JKL corridor between 15th and 29th is where most of the action is at, but there's plenty going on just south and east as well. Some nice neighborhoods in and around the central city area are Boulevard Park, Poverty Ridge, Midtown, East Sac, Land Park, Curtis Park. Some spots downtown can get pretty dead at night as it's state worker / commuter area. Midtown is where most of the life is. I'd avoid living in North and South Sac. Good Mexican and Vietnamese food though. Oak Park is pretty rough. West Sac is coming up slowly, but I don't think i'd want to live there right now.
Suburbs are spotty. Some areas are okay, some are sketchy. Some decent spots in the Pocket, South Land Park, Fair Oaks or all the way out in Davis or Folsom. I wouldn’t want to live in Citrus Heights, Rancho Cordova, Roseville, Rocklin, Elk Grove. They’re fine for some, but if you’ve been to one, you’ve been to them all.
Sacramento is a great place to live if you can get good work. You just gotta get out and find your spots. The Bay Areans will tell you it’s shit, but they conveniently forget SF and Oakland are surrounded by strip mall suburbs they hate and millionaire enclaves they can’t afford. It takes 2 hours to drive to SF or Tahoe, at worst. That 4-5 hour traffic is all the Bay Areans trying to escape from and return home.
Two rivers and lakes for the hot summers. Loads of wineries in the delta region and up in the Sierra foothills. Great breweries and coffee too.
- plus all of downtown/midtown is really ramping up. new businesses are opening everywhere. good coffee!sarahfailin
- Thanks!teh
- sarahfailin0
I live in Sac currently. I used to live in the Bay, and I lived in New Orleans for a long time, so I have some perspective.
Sac is hugely underrated, in large part because it has tons of sprawling suburbs around it which do, largely suck. If you are a young professional though, living in "the grid" as it's called in the downtown-midtown area is awesome.
1. It's completely flat and bike-able.
2. Very-good quality food and restaurants, including Michelin-rated restaurants. If you were going to do a 100-mile diet, this would be the place to do it: wine, produce, cheese, honey, nuts, EVERYTHING comes from near here.
3. MUCH cheaper in every way than the bay. Rent, food, drinks, everything.
4. Amazing farmers markets that are dirt-cheap and full of fresh, quality produce of all kinds.
5. Very close to lots of awesome stuff in California: SF/Bay to the west, Napa/Sonoma, Tahoe and the Sierras-- all these places you can get to in 90 minutes. I've even gone to Yosemite on a day trip once, though that was a bit more ambitious.
6. Low crime, even downtown. I never hear about cars or homes getting broken into hardly ever. As compared to Oakland...Downsides:
1. Temperature variant! HOT in the summer. 40's in the winter. Being from the south, this doesn't bother me, but it bothers the Bay denizens.
2. Music scene is not great. It just isn't. A lot of the good acts go to SF. But there are plenty of small venues with a variety of mediocre acts if you like to chill and hear whatever.
3. The people outside of downtown/midtown are either suburbanites or whatever the California version of hicks is.
4. There's not as much of that exotic bay area culture where you can eat Cambodian and Jamaican food on the same block. There's no race riots here. There's no radical co-op bicycling freegan hordes (which to me is a downside, I kind of like that stuff)Bottom line: Sac is so live-able. It's like the bay area on easy mode. Low rent. Great food. A good variety of bars and restaurants downtown. Just not as MUCH of any of it, and not as much culture as they have in the bay.
- Thanks! Everyone has been saying the same things you mentioned. Im really excited to get out there in May.teh
- omg0
I'd like to move to Cali. I can live anywhere I want, but for some reason, i stay in New York. I'm just bitter about its winters. I'd much rather be somewhere where its summer all year round.
- I love New York, but would not appreciate a winter there for sure. We have the best weather out here. Move already!sublocked
- In the same boat. Thinking of heading back to CA in the next year or so.duckseason
- Yup. Thats why I like Sac. short seasons and just a short drive to teh mountains for snow.teh
- sublocked0
Ah...I guess the levee system repair thing got authorized by Obama...so that's good:
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A major roadblock to completion of critical levee repairs in Sacramento’s Natomas basin was cleared Tuesday when President Barack Obama signed the Water Resources Reform and Development Act into law.
The act, blocked for years by partisan battles in Congress, authorizes 34 projects across the nation totaling $12.3 billion. Among them, it directs the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to strengthen 24 miles of levees protecting Natomas, a project estimated to cost $760 million. The Natomas floodplain north of downtown Sacramento is home to 100,000 people and property worth more than $7 billion. A levee breach could put many homes and businesses in the area under 20 feet of water, according to federal flood maps.
Since 2008, when its levees were deemed vulnerable to seepage, Natomas has been under a de facto building moratorium and flood-insurance requirement while the legislation languished.
“The people of Natomas have waited too long for this day, but because of a lot of hard work, we are finally here,” said Rep. Doris Matsui, D-Sacramento, who fought for years to move the legislation along.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local…
- doesnotexist0
woodstock pizza i think is there
is good
- sublocked0
Finally, if you're into land...you can definitely get a house with some acres about 30 minutes outside of Sac. Start in Loomis, go farther up 80 towards Reno/Tahoe from there. Lots of houses to be had with large yards. Trees, etc...
- I know. Have quite a few houses an d condos to see from Trulia.teh
- sublocked0
If you're interested in the new Entertainment Sports Complex going in downtown where a large portion of K St. Mall used to be, check this out:
- Renderings are such a lie. There are never that many people.iCanHazQBN
- There will DEFINITELY be that many people or more for Kings games. Sacramento is basketball crazy.sublocked
- A lot of people have been sayin ggod things about buying now in Sac.teh
- sublocked0
Also keep in mind that a lot of the newer Natomas development is (stupidly) on a flood plain. I would not purchase a home there...the levee system in Sac is old, and susceptible to damage in the event of large storms or earthquakes.
Actually, I believe after Katrina, it was rated by the government as the "next potential big flood disaster" area...so keep that in mind. California tried to allocate money to repair the levee system, but I've not checked on that in a few years so unsure if it ever happened.
- Didn't know that thanks! I'll be out there in May so I will ask if the house is in a flood zone.teh
- sublocked0
I grew up there...wasn't a lot to do in the late 90s, but downtown is decent now. I actually like it better than San Jose (where I currently live).
Don't listen to the uninformed people from SF who've been there years ago, or just passed through.
Downtown has a variety of good places to eat and chill lounges / bars. If you like an urban feel, move downtown or midtown. It's changing and improving at a rapid rate. The new arena downtown is going to bring lots of development as well, and should be a boom within the next 2-3 years.
I grew up (13-18) around the north side of Sac...Roseville, Rocklin, Citrus Heights. I'm not a suburbia fan, but if you like huge McMansion style houses and suburbia, those are your places. Natomas and Elk Grove also similar, but closer to downtown.
My favorite places downtown:
Orphan Breakfast House
Red Rabbit
Ramen House
Dive Bar (live mermaids swimming above the bar...)
The Shady Lady (live jazz, kick back atmosphere, great whiskey drinks)I'm sure there's others but I only get up there to visit once a month or so.
- moldero0
Sac sucks, its close to the snow though, so thats cool at least
- uninformedsublocked
- < im from the bay area + have family & friends in Sac that i used to visit oftenmoldero
- that place blowsmoldero
- its not too bad if you like strip malls and crap like thatmoldero
- again, uninformed. if you've not been there in the past 5-6 years you wouldnt knowsublocked
- Thought it was a nice location close to reno day drive to teh bay san diego vegas and 45 minutes to the mountainsteh
- if Lex Luthor didnt blow up the gap between Sac and the ocean, that place still doesnt have a coastmoldero