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- _niko0
This is his only saving grace, calling out the military industrial complex for profiteering on needless wars
- No, because he doesn't mean it. If he would be a life long pacifist. It's just a bone for his base to attack the 'arrmy elite'.tank02
- Everything with Trump is purely transactional. He doesn't believe in anything really.mathinc
- His base is military families which are republican for the most part I’d say. He is a pacifist, he’s got no stomach for war, never has._niko
- ^ hate to break it to you but the polls show servicemen/women support Biden. It's a myth that most army personel is R.zarkonite
- https://www.military…zarkonite
- Ah so it’s turned, crazy that such a strong support base has eroded in less than 4 years_niko
- He says this shit...while at the same time gloating he's pumped more money into the military than any President ever. Dotard.BusterBoy
- zarkonite2
The military doesn't like Donald Trump:
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- Still half of them don't mind him.PhanLo
- Pretty sure this was before the scandal, curious how many approve now, not to mention vets and families and all, when you lose respect of the Military forces...grafician
- ...you're done as a commander in chiefgrafician
- But the military loves him...this is all fake news.utopian
- I really don't think any of it matters to his followers, it's just a sport with 2 sides.PhanLo
- These charts were before the Atlantic article. Anecdotally I've seen a ton of mentions of military turning away from him after it was published.mathinc
- Surely people already would have had a an inkling of how his mind worked on military thinking. Will still be a close election, still reckon he could win.PhanLo
- https://www.military…utopian
- PhanLo11
- imbecile5
- Savage...but Trumpers don't give a fuck.BusterBoy
- LIncoln Project videos are glossy garbage, made to syphon money into a select few people's pockets. Their business details are incredibly obtuse and shady.face_melter
- https://www.google.c…imbecile
- username checks out.face_melter
- https://www.google.c…imbecile
- sted0
- grafician4
- Haha, that one has to hurt.formed
- Not much of a point, so many ways to interpret that.spl33nidoru
- What?scarabin
- neverscared2
lol
- renderedred1
haven't we suffered enough?
Norwegian lawmaker says Trump 'should be awarded' Nobel Peace Prize for Israel, UAE agreement
- Ooooooh, good. We'll never hear the end of it from him, now.Continuity
- It's just a wingnut Norwegian MP, 'lawmaker' is a stretch and makes him sound more important that he is.face_melter
- Nobel isn't what it used to be.dbloc
- @dbloc it's more noble nowrenderedred
- Nobel is always what is was. Named after a explosives guy and war profiteer who wanted to cleanse his nametank02
- in his last dying days he founded this trust to make the name Nobel good.tank02
- Continuity1
Well, hey-ho.
'"Play it down": Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book'
- Man, that article makes for some pretty depressing reading.Continuity
- What floors me is that is this was the leader of any other civilised country, just this one thing would get them thrown out at light speed.Continuity
- But, no, not the Orange Turd.Continuity
- Fuuuuck, this is bad. He admits it all on fucking tape. It wasn't just his stupidity that he ignored the threat, he knew it was a huge problem and decided tomathinc
- minimize it for: election, stock market, etc. What a moron.mathinc
- He mocked a retarted person, that should tell you his morals are too foul. Life means nuffin to donald. as barbarian as it gets.neverscared
- "FINISH HIM"grafician
- #TrumpKnewgrafician
- "WE GOT HIM!"sarahfailin
- It's going to be interesting how this unfolds in the election campaign. Biden just got handed big crates of high-calibre ammo, he'd be a fool not to use it.Continuity
- This audio will be appearing in Biden campaign ads for sureyuekit
- Lock Him Up
Lock Him Up
Lock Him Up
Lock Him Uputopian
- Ramanisky22
- well do something then!grafician
- Honestly, I think it was obvious it was bad back in Feb looking at China, Iran, (italy too?). A panic could have been much worse. Probably the right move.monNom
- There's a nasty calculus is determining that some might die so that many others might not. IE: Its the least-bad choice given the options.monNom
- I'm not a fan of Trump, but I think it's disingenuous to think that a panic and total break-down of society isn't the much more dangerous situation.monNom
- ...or that another president wouldn't have made the exact same call.monNom
- Well then can you agree on a fixed date WHEN TO PANIC AND FIX THIS? LOLgrafician
- Plenty of other presidents made the right calls man, lol what are you talking about?!grafician
- ^ He downplayed it said it was going from 15 cases to 0 ... said it would be gone by spring and summer ... said anyone who needs be tested will be.Ramanisky2
- You know he did not hide it for the 'panic' reason. We know this grifter.tank02
- Called it a DEM hoax ... GTFOHRamanisky2
- ^ how do you imagine they fix it? It's a force of nature - not going away. You either have the virus and an orderly society, or you have it with disorder.monNom
- and yes, probably other leaders in other countries had more tact. I don't think anyone was totally honest about how bad it is... probably still not.monNom
- I mean, pretty early on it was obvious to me that it was a strategic/existentia... threat. Countries (China, Iran) started falsifying data because showed weaknessmonNom
- I meant fix Trump! Impeach again, throw his ass in jail or something, how can you have this an incompetent president still in office after all this fuckery?!grafician
- and If I could put together that this was going to be bad back in January, it doesn't seem a stretch that other's could form their own opinion.monNom
- Like, what was the alternative?
@RealDonaldTrump:
"WE ESTIMATE 23M PEOPLE WILL DIE FROM THIS CHINA VIRUS, #MAGA"monNom - That's gonna go over well!monNom
- That probably would have been better than convincing his followers it was an overhyped conspiracy and wearing masks was bad.yuekit
- ugh, I hate that I'm taking this side of the argument. But it's just such a weak smear. Get him for something legitimate instead of drip drip nothing-burgers.monNom
- He knew it was serious, publicly acted like it wasn't AND also didn't do anything about it. How is that not a real issue?yuekit
- You think they weren't racing behind the scenes to find a treatment? Guaranteed there was a blank cheque to whoever could fix the problem.monNom
- All the reporting I read was that they were massively negligent in preparing. For instance waited until late March to even order masks and other PPE.yuekit
- And the testing in the US was a total disaster at first. That was a huge issue because it was impossible to tell how much the virus was spreading.yuekit
- ... and the USA's performance in fighting the virus is basically the worse of all industrialized countries.zarkonite
- Probably, likely. There's a just-in-time supply chain and usually that stuff is just there when you order it... But in January China bought up EVERYTHING.monNom
- They were re-importing masks from North-America. Smurfing them from retail stores. USA was negligent for sure, but not totally at fault.monNom
- as for testing, I think they're still working to get a good accurate test. First test wasn't working. Now tests have huge inaccuracies.monNom
- I heard a stat about why they don't just test everyone for AIDS: I guess the test is like 99.9% accurate. so 1 in 1000 is a false positive...monNom
- But they expect that 1 in 10,000 will be HIV positive... so if you tested everyone, you would have 10x as many false positives as real cases.monNom
- So given that the covid test isn't nearly 99.9% accurate, it makes sense that they don't just test everyone because it wouldn't tell them anything.monNom
- as for "Impeach again". Maybe they could just actually try to win election in a couple of months by selecting a candidate the people actually want to vote for?monNom
- Sure but the problem is they weren't even trying to stockpile equipment or fix the testing between January and March.yuekit
- But Trump said on tape early on in the Pandemic that “anyone who needs to be tested can tested” ... that was a LieRamanisky2
- too many actuallies, actually.monNom
- Also letting people continue to fly into the country without any testing or security long after it was clear the virus was spreading internationally.yuekit
- I get what you're saying, some criticisms may be uninformed but based on everything I've read they really did phone it in until it was much too late.yuekit
- Combine that with Trump doing his "it's just the flu bro" routine on TV during all of this and it paints a pretty damning picture.yuekit
- There is very surely a whole lot of incompetence and ass covering all the way down. I just think in this circumstance, he was right. you don't spook the heard.monNom
- 'you don't spook the herd*' By that logic, people shouldn't be warned whenever there's a category 5 hurricane coming their way. Don't wanna spook 'em, yeah?Continuity
- Also: the rest of us who live in civilised countries were all told of the very real dangers of this disease. Seems to me — other than a run on bog roll —Continuity
- there was no panic.Continuity
- ^ EXACTLYRamanisky2
- So agreeing with scientists and saying, "This is serious. We need to social distance and wear masks." Would have been irresponsible, monNom?mathinc
- Instead they leaned hard into the, "This will all go away soon, don't worry about it" narrative and more people died because of it. Not to mention not preparingmathinc
- in the slightest. Jeez, fuck off with this 'don't want to spook the herd' bullshit.mathinc
- whoa, touchy. I think you're caricaturing the situation. Trump was cheerleading for sure, but there was plenty of opposing viewpoints out there.monNom
- and to the point of 'social distance, wear masks' That's likely only going to slow things down... maybe not save ANY lives if we can't find a vaccine.monNom
- so the balance becomes: shut down the economy, everyone starves. or let the virus run it's course and many many more die if hospitals can't keep up...monNom
- or you take the middle path and draw it out bit by bit. A controlled_burn. Not crashing the economy, not overwhelming hospitals, hoping for a treatment...monNom
- but also progressing toward herd immunity as fast as possible because if you are 6mo behind China, you could be on the back-foot for the next 50 years.monNom
- all Trump ever cared about is his
re-election and the Stock Market.Ramanisky2 - it seems pretty obvious to me that's what they're doing... talking about a 'second wave' before the first one was even cresting. and I think it's correct.monNom
- Just to be clear, in that scenario, I think you need to get a critical-mass of people infected before adopting masks in order to build toward herd-immunity.monNom
- ...as fast as possible...but no faster.monNom
- and is probably why schools are reopening. If it goes through the schools, children are less-prone to bad reactions, you hit herd immunity faster. Maybe.monNom
- S Korea didn't shut down their economy. They wore masks and socially distanced. The herd immunity approach would kill millions very quickly - say scientists.mathinc
- Scientists still don't know for sure that herd immunity is a certain - so yeah, lets race into uncertainty and kill millions to get there. Or, you know, 'slowmathinc
- burn' until we understand it. Trump's equivocation on the entire thing is the issue. "Masks are bad, it'll go away, hey it's actually gone!"mathinc
- 99% of the reason why we've got fuckwits throwing fits over doing the easiest and most scientifically proven thing (masks) is because of his equivocation.mathinc
- sarahfailin1
from the CNN article Continuity posted about Bob Woodward's "Rage"
-- Woodward reports that Trump's national security team expressed concerns the US may have come close to nuclear war with North Korea amid provocations in 2017. "We never knew whether it was real," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is quoted as saying, "or whether it was a bluff." But it was so serious that Mattis slept in his clothes to be ready in case there was a North Korean launch and repeatedly went to the Washington National Cathedral to pray.
- Ramanisky23
- < monNommathinc
- So why did Woodward take til Sept to tell people?********
- utopian0
- The problem here is nothing sticks to this asshole. He was shown to be a traitor, shown to be a crook, shown to be a racist, shown to be a sex offender ...Continuity
- ... and yet, he's still sitting in the big chair in the round room. I wouldn't be confident at all that this new thing will have any effect.Continuity
- I hate it too but I fully agree with you ContinuityRamanisky2
- If — by some stroke of luck — he loses in November, and the FBI is there waiting for him with handcuffs the day he clears out of the WH ...Continuity
- ... *then* I'll be happy to say 'we got him'.Continuity
- You can add countless more offenses too but sadly, yes @Cont. Words cannot express...********
- Yeah, I was reaching for the most egregious ones.Continuity
- Best people can hope for is that all his
Adderall and coke abuse gives him a heart attack. He'll probably survive that too the indestructible sex viking!PhanLo - ^LOLRamanisky2
- HahahahahaContinuity
- Btw, this meme is exactly what you said Continuity. They play this when anything that should stick, that should be the end of him, isn't. Sarcasm.mathinc
- sted2
Subtitles WTF? :D:D
- Her eyelashes are trash12xu
- lolsted
- Pink Christians don't lie!grafician
- is that stormy daniels mum?neverscared
- Idiocraty. Slowly but surely.
Idiocraty is real, it's even a joke anymore.Bennn - How many tines per week is she required to polish the tiny orange mushroom?_niko
- donno i'm buying everything she is selling hehh :Dsted
