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- omg2
Doesn't the use of a gun undermine the Sixth Amendment of the constitution to a right to a fair trial? There are so many cases where self defense assailants make themselves the judge and jury because gun laws allow the use of them in self defense. One-sided cases like Zimmerman vs Martin, could have been avoided if guns were first illegal or at least replacing real bullets with rubber ones. In the same light, why should law enforcement also be equipped with weapons that kill? Defensive weapons that can subdue criminals without killing would yield far better justice in the courtroom.
- I think you can develop super powers where you can travel at the speed of light to everywhere violence about to happen and freeze time so you can arrestyurimon
- criminals and bring them to justice. that would be so cooool.yurimon
- You'd then talking about security cameras where stopping time is possible to narrow down suspects.omg
- This argument is ridiculous. Your right to your very life trumps somebodies right to a trial. And after the fact whether or not you had the right to use lethalgilgamush
- Force is adjudicated. Are you really sejesting that one shouldn't be legal able to defend their own life with lethal force, are you so far removed from realitygilgamush
- * legally *Suggestinggilgamush
- What I am saying is that we don't need to use lethal force to defend ourselves anymore.omg
- When your defense only has a kill switch, then there is something wrong with how you solve problems.omg
- If you get rid of all lethal weapons, people would then be force to use other methods to solve their problems.omg
- But for the thousandth millionth time, it is too late for that in the u.s., that isn't a practical solution. When somebody threatens your life you have the righgilgamush
- Right to meet that spectrum of force accordingly. How can you find fault in that, guns or no guns, the right to defend yourself is above law. Whether or not yogilgamush
- You like the prevalence of gun ownership, it is a reality that cannot be ignored, nor can, or will it be changed by the few who are too intimidated to act accorgilgamush
- Since there is no deadline for doing things right, it's not too late to make long term changes in privately owned weapons.omg
- ...and controlled use of weapons in law enforcement.omg
- better weaponry will prove more efficient and the use of a deadly weapons for defense wouldn't be worth the prison time for many people.omg
- with a database filled with registered guns, it would be easy to account for them. Taxpayer money could easily go back to the taxpayers for their returned guns.omg
- There's no issues with defending yourself, but you'll need to use a non-lethal gun.omg
- I tried to decode that nonsense you (admirably) just tried to put out there but I am only human and that shit is incoherent. Either way, meeting lethal force wigilgamush
- With nonlethal force = you duying. It is heart warming how naive you city slickers are but all the same, what little I understood of what you said was pure fantgilgamush
- Fantasygilgamush
- Skeptics like you may find it hard to see a solution, even when its right under your nose. You have no hope to move forward.omg
- sign the petition if you give a fuck
http://www.nomorefam…gilgamush - In life, the person who dies is a person who stops thinking. Which is why most of the dumbest people on this planet have guns rather than the smartest.omg
- lolwutgilgamush
- when i die i will stop thinking huh, thats some revolutionary shit. sober upgilgamush
- That petition is for fuck tards who'd rather divert focus away from guns as a problem from mass killings as if there wasn't any synergistic connection.omg
- Not even a little bit what this petition is about but whatever you say pal. I like that you are thinking long term here, I think long term societal changes aregilgamush
- The real answer but I understand why people don't like the idea of an armed populace, to me it's just a matter of people being more responsible with their storagilgamush
- Storage. I.e. trigger locks, safes. And also, people raising their kids better. There are already all sorts of laws regarding proper storage of fire arms. If yogilgamush
- You don't like the laws in your state then vote to change them or move to a state with the laws you like. As far as parenting, well, that is much deeper societagilgamush
- Societal issue that has innumerable causes, pick onegilgamush
- _niko2
yeah so, since this is a design forum, this looks pretty sweet
- and also worth more than £120,000_niko
- I'd self defence with that gun.pango
- https://i.ytimg.com/…moldero
- MrT0
Bringing mental health into the discussion of recent shooting(s) seemed like obfuscation to me, but John Oliver says it betterer.
- isleptwithsirenstonight1
- Does the gun homicide figure include all gun deaths?MrT
- I think it includes all gun homicides (i.e., all whales are whales ).isleptwithsirenstonight
- pew research - you couldn't make it up...hans_glib
- But wouldn't include total gun deaths, which is a big part of the problem - all those stupid, accidental deaths, children, etc.formed
- They are just numbers. It doesn't include drowning either. This is how statistics work.isleptwithsirenstonight
- You can dance around the data all you want but you will never be able to prove why this is not true.isleptwithsirenstonight
- That's a bit flippant. The graph could clearly support a pro-carry position - an incentive to leave out other gun deaths.MrT
- Yes, that is how charts work.isleptwithsirenstonight
- GeorgesIV2
I am pro gun,
Am I stupid? no,
Do I have to justify myself every time a cunt, do cuntish cunts stuff? no
Am I to blame for all the death? no,
Am I part of the NRA? nowhat is this childish generalisation that every person that think gun law should stay the same and that more control should be had are bloodthirsty crazies,
don't you see how childish you all look?
one thing these shooting had in common was that they are mainly done by people who are mentally unstable, these same perpretators are also often on a cocktail of psychoactive drugs.
ok, I get it guns are part of the problem, but lets not ignore the big phat elephant in the room, american has a overmedicating problem, actually it's more an addiction than a problem at this point,
but if it's better for you to believe that removing guns from the land will make the problem evaporate and stop mentally unstable people to stop doing mentally unstable shit, than I've got a website domain to sell you <||:)
- Ianbolton6
Okay, here's my dig. Do guns make us feel protected or privileged? Or both? Here in the UK we have the Left-leaning Labour party petitioning for the removal of our nuclear deterrent, Trident, in an aim to save the country £100 Trillion or something ridiculous like that. If we get rid of our nukes does that therefore send out a message of weakness, or a message of peace? I have no particular issue with guns, just the idea of needing one to protect ourselves seems a little negative towards the society I live in. I've never been in a situation where I've ever felt the need for one, other than when I've had severe depression and thought a gun would solve all this quite quickly. Thankfully I got over that. But surely if we take them away from society, is it a general message for peace and global disarmament? Surely that is a more beautiful (and obviously utopian) idea rather than everyone getting one in hope that they will never need to use it?
If you want to use one for sport, then fair enough, just don't bring the whole "I need one for protection" into all this. A world fueled by paranoia is not a happy place for anyone.
- Why Is This Not True?isleptwithsirenstonight
- believing in politics is such a waste of time, believing politicians will do what they say, believing the UK will get rid of their nuclear deterrent, pricelessGeorgesIV
- I never said I believed it would happen Georges babez.Ianbolton
- lanbolton somehow knows what people do and do not need, has some sort of chrystal ball, has the world veiw of harry potter mixed with a telletubbygilgamush
- gilga needs guns, no matter the costmoldero
- me having guns doesn't cost any innocent life because i am a responsible and well trained gun owner. don't be a smarmy little shit molderogilgamush
- No, not 'somehow' - Ian lives in a country where he literally Does Not Fucking Need a Gun to live. You know, civilisation.detritus
- Honestly, you spout shit like that and it sounds like you that lives in the self-reflecting bubble of ignorance, not everyone else.detritus
- yes, and what applies for the country he lives in does not apply elsewhere. you are repeating my very sentiment, you seem to be confused. how would he know whatgilgamush
- i need or do not need for my protection. you are arguing my point detritusgilgamush
- I've never really thought about needing one because they've never really been as readily available as certain other countriesIanbolton
- Yes, it shows. I am happy for yougilgamush
- walk around Detroit.doesnotexist
- utopian3
The Myth of the Good Guy With the Gun
http://www.politico.com/magazine…
- maquito2
College Students are Wearing Dildos to Class to Protest Guns
- no shortage of idiots.yurimon
- Tell us about itisleptwithsirenstonight
- love itformed
- lowimpakt0
a president of a US university advised students to arm themselves so "we could end those Muslims.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/0…
I wouldn't think twice if it was some redneck fuck but this is the head of an education institution.
- doh, see below.lowimpakt
- a leading evangelical Christian college in Virginia..."we could end those Muslims"formed
- not that surprising given thatformed
- yeah, those private institutions are often festering with some pretty radical views, which is why they are privatemonospaced
- and evangelical = radicalmonospaced
- christian extremists2002
- instrmntl1
End the Gun Epidemic in America
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD DEC. 4, 2015It is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency.
- New York Times runs first front page editorial since 1920: “The Gun Epidemic”instrmntl
- utopian0
- don't forget to take the gun off when you go into the post office. it's a felony that carries federal prison time to have firearms on usps propertyburd-turglar
- which is a little bit strange considering it is legal to mail firearms through the usps, kind of a strange catch 22 situationburd-turglar
- A .22 isn't even lethal.monospaced
- Thanks Felicia.monospaced
- Monospace, raising autism awareness everytime he opens his Jared fogle looking faceburd-turglar
- Oooooh. Burn!monospaced
- they say a .22 can be lethal to the head since it has enough force to enter the skull but not leave it so it bounces around in the head fucking shit up.moldero
- I was totally joking. I don't know shit about guns but I know a .22 is small. I've shot .22 rifles before.monospaced
- utopian2
There have been 47,220 gun incidents in the U.S. in 2018 — and here they all are on one map
- a color map would be more informational. you can't count those dots.sarahfailin
- or a gun violence incidents *per capita* color map would be even better. this just tells you "gun incidents happen where people live."sarahfailin
- looks like you are so used to gun incidents that you don't realise it's about the immense number of the incidents.uan
