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- Continuity0
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'German police said that the man was a Syrian asylum-seeker who had been involved in previous incidents.'
And he wasn't fucking deported??!! Good fucking god. Yes, what a great fucking idea, Merkel, let's let them all in!
- nobody from the mainstream dares to demand enforcement of laws or deportation regulations. people who do immediately labelled racist, nazi. doesn't make sense.applauseclause
- Well, fuck that. You commit a crime in a country gracious enough to accept you, you should be deported without delay.Continuity
- it is so sad thát nobody want to talk about this openly because they are scared of being called racist, insanityGeorgesII
- deporting syrians is out of the question right now though, because of the war.applauseclause
- War or no war, I don't give a fuck. Out with that dhit.Continuity
- shitContinuity
- yeah. I understand the sentiment, but you cannot do that in a modern democracy. rule of law and that.applauseclause
- do what?
kill people?GeorgesII - I guess "out with that shit" meant deportation. so, you cannot do that. because of international law.applauseclause
- Yeah, I meant deportation. And international law sucks in this case. This is a fatal flaw.Continuity
- When the EU is doing a risk assessment, knowing there will be an increase in crime and terrorism, what's the acceptable percentage of citizens being victimized?IRNlun6
- Cactus-1
"Refugees Welcome!"
"And now, moving along..."
- Yeah. Right.Continuity
- Guys, you can always vote AfD.oey
- If you want to deny thousands of people's rights because of a few...what's that called? You want to build walls, forbid people to come in?oey
- You can not put everybody in the same boat.oey
- Two asylum seekers do this. how many refugees are in Germany in this moment? You want to ban the entrance of children age of two because of what?oey
- nobody knows how many, because the laws and regulations are not enforced.applauseclause
- what we do know is, about a million people (not refugees) who don't have asylum status, no right of residance, who are obligated by law to leave.applauseclause
- authorities are obligated by law to deport, but will not do it.applauseclause
- and what do you want to say by that?oey
- speaking about rights, most of the actual refugees would be required by law to leave for greece, italy, hungary.applauseclause
- so, perhaps you overestimate the rights that the refugees have and underestimate the level of impotence the german political establishment demonstrates.applauseclause
- There were around 1,2 million refugees, asylum seekers and illegal immigrants in 2015.oey
- merkel's welcome policy is a huge mess on many levels, maybe if the left would acknowledge that once in a while, this mess could be fixedapplauseclause
- "There were around 1,2 million [...] in 2015."
wrong. that's only the new arrivals from 2015. you have to add at least 5 years of mass migration to that no.applauseclause - The mess could be avoided if countries like the USA, Germany, France and UK would not make this mess to start with.oey
- I don't know which is your reality but mine is that these people are victims of a fucking system. And to deny help to one or 100 million is inhuman.oey
- my reality is, your idea about rights or denial of rights is completely off and your idea about the numbers is off. like facts, not an opinion either way.applauseclause
- LOL @ applauseclause. My idea of right is off...bahahahahahhah...oey
- applauseclause-3
this just in.
21 year old refugee from syria goes on a machete rampage in reutlingen, germany. 3 victims, 1 dead.
perpetrator is taken out by a sharp civilian, run over with an ultimate driving machine.
- I just felt my opinions of things harden even more.Continuity
- this coming only 6 days after an afghani/pakistani refugee tried to axe-murder 5 people on a trainapplauseclause
- yep, sad, trully sadGeorgesII
- you guys must be drooling.oey
- ONE person dead. Some rampage lol And last i heard, bitch asked for it.Khurram
- This JUST IN - ONE PERSON Dead. The man died somewhere in Germany and was killed by someone!Khurram
- German Press and Police say it was a passional crime and not an act of terrorism.oey
- 20020
- Religion is the new 'music'2002
- perhaps a healthy dose of religion would have grounded the young man.applauseclause
- for a sense of community and belonging.applauseclause
- Religion never inspires violence.CyBrainX
- Cactus-1
CNN aired a dramatic interview of the eyewitness account of a mother inside the McDonald’s who heard the shooter scream “Allahu Akbar!” and saw him targeting children.
- another good muslim that went bad.utopian
- Proven that this was not a religious crime - Allahu Akbar! never heard by anyone else2002
- even so... another gun crime... they should probably ban those things over in Germany... you know?
;) //PonyBoy - CNN actors defending the agendaset
- "never let a good tragedy go to waste"set
- @pony the rate of this kind of thing is incredibly low compared to the USA. The laws are working there.monospaced
- Next thing someone will say something retarded, like if regular people had guns they would have stopped it.monospaced
- I guess when its actually stopped by someone with a gun its stupid.
https://tinyurl.com/…yurimon - I wonder when you will realize your world view lacks facts of how cause n effect works in this world instead of defending democrat fake wanna be narratives.yurimon
- http://www.telegraph…since1979
- Maybe he screamed "Alles Klar", Say it out loud you'll see.Beeswax
- Oh, look who couldn't resist adding their 'input'.Continuity
- ^ Probably your joke wouldn't be funny to those didn't survive his McDonald's Food Party.Cactus
- ^ Also, Bild says he was bullied in school by Sunni Turks and Arabs: The ostensible reason for the slaughter.Cactus
- I wouldn't take very much of what Bild says very seriously ... it's Germany's Daily Mail analogue.Continuity
- Mono if took me seriously you are an idiotPonyBoy
- If *youPonyBoy
- @pony, I saw the wink, and it was an obvious satire remark. yuri, that uber driver is awesome, but definitely the exception and not really the same as thismonospaced
- Ranger2
Iranians are the ones on the ground in Syria fighting ISIS. Iran values culture, history and education very highly.
- Yes, yes... praise Iran... leaders of a //peaceful theocratic law system... ... //so wonderful to women and homosexuals too... they're AWESOME!////PonyBoy
- Or he is just a badly bullied kid with mental disorder2002
- By contrast - Arabs are culture-less and uneducated?hotroddy
- Persians, not Arabs.
Persians aren't as extreme as Arabs, but Arabs are our supposed "allies" so we're not supposed to think thatmoldero - Arabs hate all of us, the average Persian just hates our government and they have every right to considering they've been fucked by them for yearsmoldero
- shit all goes back to Sykes–Picot... People love to blame Bush...instead go back to the 1910's and see how France, England and Russia etc FUCKED the Arab worldPonyBoy
- ISIS (ISIL) wants the Levant (the 'L' in ISIL as you most prob know) back... thing is they're religious (not political) in tone... you can't reason w/that. :/PonyBoy
- I blame xerxes and that damn traitor hunchback_niko
- Bennn1
We should destroy all weapons from surface of the Earth and learn martial arts instead.
- just as violent and limiting in terms of self-defense (not everyone is as strong, not everyone is as athletic etc) How about we use love instead of MA? <3PonyBoy
- lets ban buses and cars too. I mean it.hotroddy
- +1 Bennn, imagine that shit!
UFC would go out of business though, all we would watch is CNN and hope for warmoldero - ^isn't that kinda how things are anyway, moldy? minus the UFC out-of-biz thingPonyBoy
- yeah good pointmoldero
- 'Into the Badlands' on AMC is exactly that, no more weapons on Earth, only martial arts, knives and swords.Bennn
- Ben would be the most wanted weapon and deadliest person on the planet then.monospaced
- i knowBennn
- ju like a tiger mangmoldero
- oey2
So he was not a "culturally-enriching member of the Merkel Youth"...like it "appeared to be"...aka Refugee (thanks Georges for the enlightenment).
Refugees Welcome!
And now, moving along...
- The fear mongering and idiotic assumptions were quick and rampant once again.monospaced
- we must build high walls around the countries so no one leaves, no one comes. then remove all guns and all religions. basically turn humans into caged animals.Beeswax
- People write that sort of shit but I'm the one to be downvoted. Fucking LOL! At least someone understood. Thanks mono. Thanks Beeswax!oey
- Yeah, because mass murder committing alienated Muslims is a fact of life now. Fuck off you obfuscating cunts!Cactus
- The swarm to protect radical islam.Hayoth
- an eyewitness has said the man did scream 'admiral akbar' while shooting... may not have been a refugee but still related to some religious assholePonyBoy
- it's a traaap!!!since1979
- Well, what I've read was that he lured foreigners to kill and identified as German. I haven;t read anything about Muslim materials though he had plenty of massETM
- murder and school shootings. So is the assumption of Islam based on his appearance only?ETM
- ETM... it's being reported one person heard the man shout something... "One eye witness claimed the man shouted “Allahu Akbar”" ...not verified thoughPonyBoy
- I will continue not to judge people based on their religion. I will continue to support opening the doors to Refugees, no matter where they come from.oey
- I will continue to use my skills, energy, time and knowledge to work for a good welcoming of Refugees in Germany and for their integration.oey
- I will continue not to label a group of people because of individual actions. I will continue to support the people I know that work with and for refugees.oey
- I will continue to fight for a better society where people are free to chose where they want to live or where they want to take shelter from destruction.oey
- I will continue to refuse to label people. I will continue to try not to reply in the same manner and try to have a peaceful interaction with fellow QBN'ers.oey
- Refugees Welcome!oey
- Whether it is naiveté or rank virtue signaling your obstinateness is going to get a lot of people killed.Cactus
- what are you even talking about? how do my beliefs and actions are gonna get people killed? what is that rank virtue signaling? wtf?!oey
- Christ! You really are a true believer, aren't you.Cactus
- Beeswax0
Gunman was Iranian-German
Police have added that the gunman had dual nationality - Iranian-German. He was found dead in a side street in the vicinity of the shopping centre.
- Strange. If he's iranian he's most likely a Shia. That rules out that he's a member or symphatizer of ISIS.Beeswax
- Fascinating. Your internecine conflicts have left at least 9 people dead in the heart of Europe. ISIS still celebrating the demise of infidel children.Cactus
- It's strange because Iran is currently fighting ISIS and FSA in Syria, and ISIS in Iraq. Iran is not allies with west so interesting how this plays out.IRNlun6
- Again Iranian-German means nothing, one of his parents was German or was he 100% Iranian and had German papers ?i_was
- Nationality means nothing as i_was said, there's been enough British go off and join with ISIS. Means nothing.Ranger
- Point being, as Beeswax mentioned, he would be Shia muslim, or possibly Kurd which are not ISIS. Does not fit ISIS, Al Qaida demographic.IRNlun6
- Likely a lone, disgruntled gunman.IRNlun6
- People who join ISIS from other parts of the world are Sunni. They look down on Shias as apostates.IRNlun6
- "3 of 9 people who got killed were Turks"
What's the motivation here now? I'll begin to think this is MKUltra type of mind controlled hitman.Beeswax - Likely just a coincidence. What's interesting on his Iranian nationality is how their enemies will begin to spin this. Turkish government already speculating.IRNlun6
- I have English parents but I'm not C of E.Ranger
- No he lured foreigners via Facebook. He was born in and identified as German. Nothing Muslim about the boy has come up, including the materials inspiring him.ETM
- robotron3k0
live in English
- dbloc0
For Fucks Sake
- autoflavour0
so far it seems perhaps that there was really only 1 shooter, who committed suicide.. who was also a German..
thats what the tv here is saying
- or at least suggestingautoflavour
- Can't trust initial media coverage. They've been wrong about the full details of all recent attacks.IRNlun6
- The Nice attack was claimed to be a lone attacker as well. Turns out he had several accomplices and planned it for over a year.IRNlun6
- "Who was also a German", that means nothing, german blood or german papers.i_was
- PonyBoy-1
'Boom boom boom - he's killing the kids': Gunman shouting 'Allahu Akbar' executed children in Munich McDonald's before rampaging through mall killing NINE with police now hunting three attackers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/…
dailymail of course... we shall see
- ernexbcn0
According to news media here, witnesses have stated the shooters yelled "we're germans" and "fucking foreigners" or something along those lines.
- have they confirmed multiple shooters?applauseclause
- I'm reading one of the shooters committed suicide at the mallernexbcn
- looks like one guy, one event up until now, at least regarding to images/vidsapplauseclause
- they might have overreacted, could very well be a looser going postal at his old workplaceapplauseclause
- mutliple shooters info comes from Munich police yesernexbcn
- I'm hearing that too, but I don't think it's correct.applauseclause
- let's hope this is over...applauseclause
- News is all over the place. Just read one witness account say he was shouting "Allah Akbar."IRNlun6
- Maybe he was really confusedyuekit
- Bennn0
Why are Arabs not trying to do something against this terrorist madness? This is their people. I dont know.
- Why aren't you doing something to stop the mob in Quebec?i_monk
- also the biebsapplauseclause
- You have jumped to a conclusion based on no info.ETM
- Bennn0
News here say 6 dead and many critical wounded
- IRNlun60
Reading some posts that the shooter may have been speaking German and ranting about foreigners. Not much information being released at this point.
- ernexbcn0
3 attackers supposedly and still on the run...
- And more than 3 hours after the fact, and we still shockingly know absolutely nothing else.Continuity
- applauseclause0
- wtf, this is traumatisingBennn
- it's ok to feel that wayapplauseclause