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- Bennn0
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DELL XPS Special Edition
Windows 10 Pro 64bits
XPS 8930, Édition spéciale Chassis (460W)
8th gen de Intel® Core™ i7-8700 (6-Core, 12M Cache, up to 4.6 GHz)
Memory : DDR4 de 32Gb 2666MHz
Hard Disk 1 : 256GB PCIe x4 SSD
Hard Disk 2 : 1TB 7200RPM HDDNVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050Ti with 4GB GDDR5 Graphics Memory
Wi-Fi 802.11ac 2x2 Killer 1535 et Bluetooth 4.1
Integrated 5.1 with WAVE MAXX Audio® Pro
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2,045$ including all taxes
- m.2 as your boot drive bro.plash
- whats the diff with a m.2 ?Bennn
- My other option with them is 256GB M.2 PCIe x4 SSD + 2TB 7200 rpm. Thats better?Bennn
- M.2 is just a different connector. It's faster than the old Sata interface. Pretty sure this spec has it. Get the 2tb HD for suremonNom
- that would be it, over 300$ savings right now with a coupon code.Bennn
- *that WILL be itBennn
- correction, 419$ in savings!Bennn
- id start with an i7700k or higher and at least a gtx 1080p gpu and build from theretrooperbill
- trooper, why all the extra $$$ for the 1080?mekk
- i already bought it, PC is coming in 4 weeks! :) My computer is 7 years old, that will be a good refreshing!Bennn
- and the 1050Ti would be more than suffuciant for my needs, i dont do any video work and dont play video gamesBennn
- four weeks? wow! Have fun with it :-)mekk
- id give it an approving set face********
- Can't wait to surf QBN with 32Gb of RAM!Bennn
- outsource********
- open up whole gif thread as one page and enjoymekk
- i will!Bennn
- looks nice, with dvd or bluray?
you can set it up dualboot to win/macossted - DVD, dunno about the mac os...Bennn
- maybe blue ray too actually, i dont use itBennn
- dyspl0
any recommandation for a cinema4d+redshift rendering?
thinking desktop, but also laptop+external gpu solutions if that's a viable option, with around $2500 budget.
- pango0
If I do get a m.2 boot drive. What size is recommended?
Also how do I go about migrating the boot essential part of my current hard drive to the m.2?
- 256-512gb I'd say. Start by tidying your current boot drive, install m2 and clone. then change boot sequence to m.2 and you should be good to go.mekk
- at the moment 120gb is enough for win7 +design tools and some other stuff. if its a desktop machine be prepared that it will disable some of the sata ports.sted
- ********0
BUMP!
One housemate of mine is also a graphic designer and he's looking to buy a new (preferably) Windows desktop.
He needs it mostly for his graphic design work but also once in a while to be able to edit sound.
I saw some great suggestions here but maybe too much?
I don't know shit about Windows PC's that's why I'm asking.
I know that 16GB is the minimum RAM.
And that a nice 500GB disk at least or something would be nice.Dell, Lenovo...?
Bennn' posts seem nice but I think 2000€ might be too much.
- Anything in the 500/1000€, ssd + 32 or 64GB, and you're done.OBBTKN
- that's what i was thinking. i was checking stuff briefly. why is a microsoft surface more expensive than an imac?********
- 32gb ram is more than adequatemonospaced
- I now know why MS surface is more expensive than a iMac...just ignorance from my side.********
- Wow...Dell has really nice stuff for a good price. so many questions, Workstation vs Desktop PC? All in One vs Tower? Crazy shit!********
- I'm really impressed with what I'm seeing here...i gathered 8 different possible solutions just by Dell and all of them are more powerful than mid-range Mac********
- For almost half the price and that's not even the best Dell has to offer. Wow!********
- Desktop PC, not a workstation. Get a tower + a monitor. You get more performance, upgradabilitymonNom
- yes! monNom and not an all-in-one cause then one can not upgrade it, right?********
- but why not a workstation? after checking i guess a dell xps 8930 tower with 16 GB or a lenovo thinkstation********
- all these acer, hp and whatevre i don't know. i've been using mac for ages.********
- my last pc was like in 2001 or 2002 and i bought it in separate parts and build it myself.********
- Workstations generally have a xeon processor, ECC memory, swappable drives , and a quadro-type gfx card. They have their purpose, but photoshop is not it.monNom
- all in ones have thermal issues, often use laptop components, and limit your ability to select the components that are right for you.monNom
- If you do color critical work, you might want to spend $2k on a monitor, and would be happy with a $500 box. If you do cad, you might drop 2k on a quadro card..monNom
- but not need anything more than a $100 monitor. You can pick and choose like that with an all-in-one.monNom
- *can'tmonNom
- thanks monNom that's very useful. i also came to the conclusion that all-in-one is not an option.********
- and since i asked and you answered for the workstation i was reading about it and was wondering still about the xeon processor. you spared me some time********
- as a Mac user i would really follow the same option as Benn if I had to********
- I was checkina Lenovo as well but I like the 2 drive option from dell, one with ssd 256GB for OS and scratch disk and other HD with 2TB********
- I guess it's also possible to change the HD with a SSD********
- i can do that with two drives in Lenovo too but it'll cost way more********
- ********0
Hey Bennn which Lenovo did you check or compared to the Dell?
- formed1
If anyone is going after a Dell XPS, use this coupon. Just got a nice $700 off. Probably the best coupon I've found that works.
AFF15GTX
(I got it from techbargains.com)
- ah! not in Germany I guess, but nice one thanks!********
- ah! not in Germany I guess, but nice one thanks!
- formed0
Specs: $3k ($3700 wo the coupon)
9th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-9900K 8-Core Processor (16M Cache, up to 5.0 GHz)
Integrated with WAVE MAXXAudio Pro
Dell USB Mouse
Black Dell KB216 Wired Multi-Media Keyboard English
802.11ac 1x1 WiFi and Bluetooth
Tray load DVD Drive (Reads and Writes to DVD/CD)
NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1080 with 8GB GDDR5X Graphics Memory
2TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
64GB,, DDR4, 2666MHz
Windows 10 Pro, 64bit Englis
4 year warranty- We'll pick up an XPS 15 when the new version comes out in a few months (supposed to be a huge jump in performance).formed
- wow! i9 and 64GB that's a laptop!!!********
- That's the desktop...you can get 32gb in the XPS 15, 128gb in a Precision laptopformed
- Ah sorry, I read somewhere Dell XPS15 but actually it's the coupon that has 15 and I misread it.********
- I haven't seen a good coupon for the XPS 15, but always talk to someone and ask for the best deal. Most of the time they'll beat the website.formed
- actually not at the moment. that's why that bundle with the display. if my friend says 1000€ for a tower and 250€ for a display, ther'es good options********
- ********0
In Germany's Dell Website there's this deal:
Dell XPS 8930
- Intel® Core™ i7-8700 Processor
- 16 GB, DDR4, 2.666 MHz,
- M.2 PCIe 256GB SSD + 2TB Drive
- NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 with 6 GB DDR5+ Dell 27 InfinityEdge Monitor - S2719H - 68.6cm(27") Black
+ Keyboard and Mouse
+ Anti-Virus
Cost? 1630€...
Seems pretty good to me for a PC.
- And with the most beloved OS ever: Win 10 Home Edition...hehehehe!********
- That's a nice computer , but maybe leans a bit more toward gaming/3d/video. If you really just work in photoshop consider...monNom
- A cheaper i5-8400 CPU, more ram, lower spec gfx card like a 1050. Then use any savings to upgrade your monitor to something like a UP2516D wide gamut displaymonNom
- ^ alright!!!********
- More ram. I exceed 32gb daily.formed
- You can also get a 1TB SSD drive for next to nothing.formed
- I have to tell my friend to ask Dell if they can change the 8GB with 16GB cause they don't have that as option in their website.********
- I just thought that this would be probably nice cause of the 2 drives, processor and display. tomorrow i'll meet with my housemate********
- will show him the options and will know the budget.********
- thanks, that was really helpful********
- keep in mind that you can add a second HD yourself. It's probably the easiest thing to do. 4TB drives go for ~$100 so a cheap upgrademonNom
- that's good cause the only i5 option with 16gb ram that i found so far has max 16GB SSD...LOL!********
- And with the most beloved OS ever: Win 10 Home Edition...hehehehe!
- Milan3
Anyone use a hackintosh?
- used to 5 or so years ago, worked great, not sure how it works now._niko
- yes i did, but today vmware looks like a better solutionsted
- VMware still virtual though. Not ideal for heavy use as a result.monospaced
- Running mac withing Windows is like putting McDonalds fries in your freshly made oven potatoes.mekk
- I'm on my third since 2007 (I think). Motherboard matters the most when buying parts. all the 10xx nvidia cards work, but not the newest 20xx.section_014
- My actual Apple computers gave me more problems. If you're careful about components, they're rock solid.section_014
- @monospaced yeah first it was like going back a decade, but it improved a lot in the past years. but still it isn't accurate to compare to dedicated hardwarested
- Milane koristi hackintosh sa AMD Vega grafickom i Gigabyte 300 chipset. To ti je najbolja kompatibilnost. Nvidia je out sa Apple platforme.Boz
- pogledaj ovaj sajt tonymacosx86.comBoz
- shit bad link ovaj url https://www.tonymacx…Boz
- super, hvala Boz!Milan
- ok_not_ok3
Make sure you get the ones with lotsa stickers.
- ********0
Hi,
I want to thank everybody for their input.
I asked my friend if in alternative he would buy a computer by parts and there's this shop that puts everything together for an awesome price.
With the options that they have in the shop he chose he's gonna get the following:
- Intel Core i7-8700K 6x 3.70GHz Coffee Lake (Turbo: 6x4.7GHz)
- ASUS Prime Z370-P II
- ASUS Phoenix GeForce GTX 1050 Ti PH-GTX1050TI-4GB
- 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX
- 250GB Samsung 860 EVO M.2
- 2 TB Seagate Barracuda
- ASUS DRW-24D5MT schwarz SATA
- Ultron UCR 75in1 Card Reader/Writer
- Plus two extra cooler
- Plus extra soundcard
- Microsoft Windows 10 64Bit Professional1400€
- Plus extra sound card what for? buy a proper mainboard replace that seagate drive with wd.
low power config, i would recommend not connecting the extra coolerssted - extra soundcard cause he want's to edit sound. I don'y know I'm not a musician. i would also not use seagate. and over heating problems?********
- I'm also not very inclined to the asus prime but it's not for me********
- Sounds like a great computer. I think the anti-seagate thing is overblown. WD drives fail too. Just make sure you back your important stuff up.monNom
- ive had more wd die than seagate, plus seagate bought samsungs hdd division which was tops********
- albeit. seagate i own are post samsung buy. ...********
- Plus extra sound card what for? buy a proper mainboard replace that seagate drive with wd.
- shapesalad0
these look really nice compared to apple stuff, for work based designing, I'd be happy with one of this - if only windows wasn't awful...
https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/wor…
- the big oneshapesalad
- https://imgur.com/ga… Do some nice cases - they verge from übernerd to minimalist.Nairn
- flol..not that - this:
Phanteks
http://www.phanteks.…Nairn - Good news, windows is actually not awful!zarkonite
- hahaha. @Nairn's first link.shapeaspect
- Windows 10 is still aesthetically the best, why do people talk so badly about it?formed
- because it's notmonospaced
- Whats wrong with Windows?Bennn
- it costs the same as 4 months of Adobe CC subscriptions! macOS is free ;)monospaced
- Hang on... MacOS isn't free, it's just included with all new Macs... so is windows if you buy a PC so it's really included in the overall cost of the machine ;)kalkal
- I built a PC and have both macOS and win10ernexbcn
- Anyone can download macOS for free at any time, regardless of machine. Nobody can do that for Windows unless they buy a prebuilt PC. Upgrades cost too.monospaced
- Every PC I’ve built I’ve had to buy an oem windows license and it’s hundreds of dollars each time.monospaced
- you can get cheap OEM keys for around 30 bucks, win10 pro 64 bit yadda yaddaernexbcn
- those are shady at best, and are nothing more than stealing or violating oem agreements, thoughmonospaced
- Windows is great for good tech savi folk, ide suggest macOS for a noob, harder to fuck those upGuyFawkes
- Hayoth0
Moar recommendation nerds!
- cannonball19782
I mean... just make one.
- shapesalad2
For those working in AE:
- shapesalad0
$3300 for top of range model.
https://www.razer.com/gaming-lap…
VS
the £4k piece of crap iMac work got for me to use.
I know which I'll buy in the future for personal work. Goodbye apple.
- That iMac has a better CPU, better GPU, bigger and faster HD, faster ports, and includes a screen that is worth $1k+. But okay.monospaced
- Exactly! Dont forget, if you have an issue, you cant walk into a Razer store and have them take care of you.ArmandoEstrada
- Repairs in the razer are going to be MUCH easier to do by oneself. That’s where it wins easily. Unless they are closing the laptops like Apple does.monospaced
- I wouldn't put too much on that, that Razer seems pretty tight. What type of repairs are you thinking you'll need to do? Moherboard? GPU? Probably not easy.ArmandoEstrada
- Just saying, having a Mac give me a piece of mind that I have somewhere to go in case I need to. I havent had the need.ArmandoEstrada
- I'd be interested in seeing the specs of your iMac, it's hard to compare laptop vs desktop.zarkonite
- well why is the simplest AE comp running like a dog on the £4k iMac ? Oh.. because AE's gpu accelerated effects don't run on AMD gpu...shapesalad
- a) that’s adobe’s problem, and b) would be an issue on any pc with an amd card.monospaced
- I also hate that I can’t render with the amd gpu in my machine. Ridiculous.monospaced
- Lugging a computer to a store is a hell of a lot less convenient than having someone show up and fix it where ever you are.formed
- the fact that apple won't offer a capable card, makes it an apple problem tho.dyspl
- I made the switch from mac after 15 years of being on mac pros (not mac book pros) just last year, never going backmoldero
- macs are just way to god damn slow for the price, maybe some of us notice it more because we do video & 3d, I noticed it the most when i got into creating VRmoldero
- on my mac pro, a 15 second AE clip running heavy particular took me 12 hours, vs 2.5 on my PC gaming laptopmoldero
- also when I got back on PC, I forgot how much we're able to hack the OS to customize it, you'de think it'd be the other way around since macs are supposedly formoldero
- creativesmoldero
- dyspl3
@shape salad,
I've just bought an MSi this morning:
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GE75-…it's a whole lot of power for $2500.
- sweet, report backshapesalad
- I have last years top MSI, it's fast as fuck, looking to get an Asus nextmoldero
- sausages2
Bump.
I'm in the market for a new desktop – had macs for years but thinking about a windows box for work. Used to build my own PCs but that was 20+ years ago. Pretty behind the times on what to go for now.
Questions:
Intel i7 – i9 vs. Ryzen 7 – 9
Nvidia vs. AMD graphicsI do a lot of frontend work but these are often in much larger projects/apps with dependencies getting compiled and stuff so sometimes need a bit of power, a fair bit of AE and Premiere as well as the usual PS and AI. Would want something that could take 64GB+ ram.
Should I build something, get a Dell (or similar) or just say to myself fuck it, too hard and get one of the new 27in iMacs? The only thing keeping mac in the equation is all the stuff I've recorded and arranged in Logic – have a MBP which will be fine for most of that though.
Sorry for telling you my life story, any info or opinions would be the tits!
Ta,
sausages
- latest adobe updates are garbage on my 2015 hardware... when did 6700 come out and first gen pcie-4 drives... i've been looking as well see what is new.********
- think my big thing is only ryzen support pcie-4(guess 3 was previous) 4 lanes all gets confusing. but intel suppose to have some rocket ship chip in Q1********
- feel like going big into a new build to last 6+ years needs that pcie4 support.... and intel is typcially just better for adobe stuff. and x299 still seems********
- spendy as fuck... personally I think gonna wait until at least Q2 see how boards adopt new chips and hopefully no supply chain issues********
- That stream of consciousness was great and all but I can't really find any answers to the questions. Thanks for playing though, 1/10 for relevance.sausages
- ok ill simplify it. wait until Q2 next year if you want future proofing with PCIe-4.********
- but considering your knowledge level I wonder if what you would notice... Your desire for 64GB of ram talking u do front end.. what i think of front end is not********
- ram intensive... a custom PC will always be streets ahead of a mac for half the cost. I'm thinking you don't really need a x299 arch. you could get a z370********
- and max ram on 4 slots. dont think u would know better.********
- I need to run v large datasets in my workflow. Think in terms of large resource mining projects, so yes I would know shitboysausages
- Fast storage, cpu and RAM are essential in the front end that I do. It’s not all HTML and css y’knowsausages
- Dell XPS. I prefer to have warranties and no headaches (and a larger screen than a 27")formed
- Lol wut was deathboy on about, yeah build dude, more fun, i went ryzen 7moldero
- latest adobe updates are garbage on my 2015 hardware... when did 6700 come out and first gen pcie-4 drives... i've been looking as well see what is new.
- kellogg0
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/se…
Anybody ever used one of those? Are they still worth the money now Nvidia has a new RTX series out?
Looking for something prebuilt and the options seem extremely limited.
- shapesalad-1
- And yet it says "Click or press any key to unlock" which seems too easy?prophetone
- Would make better sense getting a higher end machine for same $ and installing you favourite flavour of Unix?sausages
