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- sted6
Best show on Twitter for a long time.
- grafician-9
Twitter had 7k employees when Elon bought it right?
I argue Twitter's complexity can be run by just a few hundred people.
Remember instagram had just 13 people and millions of users when it was bought by Fb more than a decade ago:
https://www.businessinsider.in/t…
Remember Whatsapp had 55 employees and millions of users when Facebook bought it:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tec…
Remember the greatest scam in crypto Tether and at the same time maybe the greatest hedge fund ever is run by a dozen people
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/com…
Remember Facebook just fired 11K people and nobody blinked
https://www.independent.co.uk/in…
So stfu about Elon firing people and ruining Twitter if you don't have a clue how big companies are run and how many people you need to run a big social network
This discussion should have ended with my post of Paul Graham's tweets bellow
If you don't know who paulg is you shouldn't be in this thread or in tech for that matter
- Are you quoting someone, or is this your schpiel? If the latter, lol.Nairn
- lol so you are well versed in how big companies are run too? Fucking lol graf, how many agencies do you run now?monospaced
- A company like Twitter should and does need a whole team of lawyers for example.monospaced
- Remember a while back when they interviewed Facebook staff having to watch through hours of horror content and they said there was no where near enough staff?PhanLo
- No. People don't get Twitter is a privately owned company now. No more shareholders, if you don't like it go to Mastodon or whatever...grafician
- People don't get in a privately owned tech company there is ZERO accountability.grafician
- "just a few hundred people."jonny_quest_lives
- so cute...jonny_quest_lives
- This is why Facebook did all the nasty crazy shit 'cuz Facebook is practically owned by Zuck. The rest of the shareholders don't matter :))grafician
- I really meant it when I said you guys really don't get how big companies in tech are run and what are the limits.grafician
- any large corporation has a certain amount of bloat... what i don't understand is why elon stans getting so enraged by distributed systems engineers resigningjonny_quest_lives
- Elon does all these moves because the buy out of Twitter was leveraged so he has debt to cover. Until he figures out what's what at twitter...grafician
- 21st century luddites worshipping at the alter of eLoN and then they end their arguments with "he puts rockets into space what do you know?"jonny_quest_lives
- ...he will cut and UNCUT all the people he needs. When the dust settles in a few months, I expect Twitter to be better run than any tech companygrafician
- i can't venture a guess as to how large Twitter's infrastructure actually is but a few hundred ain't going to cut it...jonny_quest_lives
- we shall see when everyone starts posting their world cup clips and tweets...jonny_quest_lives
- @jonny bro try to think in business terms, not in "we the users are entitled to ___" shit ;)
I never mentioned rockets here btwgrafician - He'll be held accountable when something goes really wrong. Well, wronger than it already is going. In American terms he might get a fine.PhanLo
- we shall see if the global elastic scale holds with a skeleton crew attempting to police infrastructure in real timejonny_quest_lives
- No, not really, he won't be held accountable at all. If twitter goes down, it can be written of as a bad investment and be done with it.grafician
- just like tesla is the best run car company?jonny_quest_lives
- QBN is the same btw, so should I search for QBN LLC and find out who we need to kiss ass so this forum still runs smoothly?
Watch yourselves :)grafician - EU regulations stipulate a certain number of moderates per users. Hence high employee count compared to years ago instagram etc.shapesalad
- just be wary of cults of personality...jonny_quest_lives
- https://pbs.twimg.co…jonny_quest_lives
- just be wary of nobodies commenting on shit they have no clue about
twitter is full of these idiots these daysgrafician - just because your on social media doesn't mean you're important and we need to listen to you
people demand this shit taken for granted = all this dramagrafician - So again, private company = ZERO accountabilitygrafician
- Best would be for Elon to fucking ask for subscriptions for twitter and be done with it, pay to tweet, if you can't afford it fuck offgrafician
- Or at best be in read-only mode and you can only follow and stfugrafician
- Being a private company is giving you a lot many more options to moderate and model the community without giving a fuck about "politically correct" shitgrafician
- Anyway, other "social networks" did it with a lot many less people and everything was fine, so all these idiots commenting on Elon is nonsensegrafician
- So all this shit is BECAUSE of Elon, not really about twitter
You can't spit in the man's face and still demand he follows your tweets on HIS private networkgrafician - it has always been "algorithmically enhanced" free speech subject to "terms of service" eLoN can do whatever he wants and you are correct about that.jonny_quest_lives
- Anyway, twitter was so badly run BEFORE Elon he needs to actually cut even more people to get a good team to run this placegrafician
- 7000 idiots to run a network and no changes in basic functionaly in like a decade? fuck off
Again, Zuck fired 10K last weekgrafician - I can also applaud ex Twitter engineers walking out on him for doing the calculus that 3 months severence might be a better deal than overworked/understaf...jonny_quest_lives
- nobody cared! Facebook still runs, influencers still there
Anyway, I digressgrafician - twitter 2.0 will certainly be a management case study either way it plays outjonny_quest_lives
- just don't understand the right's fixation of attacking twitter employees as some sort of secret cabal of leftists prohibiting "free speech"jonny_quest_lives
- "7000 idiots "jonny_quest_lives
- Yeah everybody thinks they're entitled to something on twitter
Everybody is expendable in tech, people really do forget thatgrafician - ^ Case in point: https://qbn.com/repl…grafician
- "no changes in basic functionality"jonny_quest_lives
- soo what do you think happens inside Twitter when say 500,000 users decide to post HD clips of world cup goals simultaneously?jonny_quest_lives
- Zero degradation in service since Elon's take over, so business as usual
But all that would be posted on tiktok first I betgrafician - I am putting my money on head of lettuce...jonny_quest_lives
- https://pbs.twimg.co…jonny_quest_lives
- With all due respect you commented a lot but really didn't say muchgrafician
- what's there to say? you seem to envy these people who were employed at twitter who made an income with their skills as lazy idiots?jonny_quest_lives
- As in adding anything useful to the discussion
And no, why tf would anyone envy entitled former twitter employeesgrafician - I doubt many of them will be hired again soon, as the market is flooded with ex-hires from Facebook, Amazon, etc. way more valuable people and ex-twittergrafician
- well the crux of your discussion seems to be based on the premise that all tech companies are overstaffed...jonny_quest_lives
- and eLoN is some sort of genius for being the first begin the white colloar cull.jonny_quest_lives
- But probably @nb's company will hire everybody ex-twitter as he said recentlygrafician
- and again you load your statements "And no, why tf would anyone envy entitled former twitter employees"
graficianjonny_quest_lives - so there is no discourse to be had.jonny_quest_lives
- Under private management you don't need to grow anymore, no more pressure so no more useless hiring to fill spots - just the stricly necessary to run the placegrafician
- Anyway, again, this is common knowledge, but not here so yeah
If anybody would add something useful, if not, I'm outgrafician - so where it stands is you believe twitter staff of a publicly traded company pre elon purchase were both "entitled" as well as "lazy"jonny_quest_lives
- so yeah i am the one who added nothing usefuljonny_quest_lives
- That is the common opinion now amongs a lot of people, like I said this was common knowledge. Elon is mocked by peasants while everybody who gets it carry on.grafician
- i already agreed eLoN can do what he wants... just hope he has that $1billion check ready for Morgan Stanley... they want their interest paymentsjonny_quest_lives
- But no worries, all this will fade quickly in the shadow of the next outrageous thing like the new Qatar World cupgrafician
- It's all ironic the amount of criticism from the likes of people who don't even have twitter acounts.grafician
- Nobody would care about twitter if it wasn't for their envy/hate of Elon
It's quite spectacular this showgrafician - But as Hadji would say "sim sim salabim" and everything will be finegrafician
- https://youtu.be/3jV…jonny_quest_lives
- grafician-6
Again...
- instrmntl4
Lolz, 1,200 employees resigned, leaving Twitter with a third of their staff. Good luck.
- https://i.pinimg.com…maquito
- I heard grafician got an inviteoey_oey
- pretty darn close to the 75% staff reduction floated pre-sale. I guess everything is going to plan?monNom
- More LOLz...
https://nypost.com/2…instrmntl - Roger that, everything according to plan, 10-4, over&out.maquito
- They still have their twitter accounts, they are still tweeting "Oh me oh my look at me ex-twitter Elon is so mean" tweets lolgrafician
- If your boss says "you need to agree to work double the hours with no pay and you have to decide now" and ydon't respond to the email that's not a resignationjonny_quest_lives
- At east not in California anyway...jonny_quest_lives
- *leastjonny_quest_lives
- What kind of idiot thinks Twitter is just an app? Holy shit the ignorance is gloriousmonospaced
- @grafican You realize that these are real people losing their jobs and having their lives completely disrupted?instrmntl
- Having to leave their homes, pull their children out of school, move, no income or healthcare.instrmntl
- All because this piece of shit overpaid for a company he has no idea how to run or business running it.instrmntl
- Who is the wealthiest person on the planet w a 56 billion dollar payout.instrmntl
- Sorry I only care of Meta exployees losing jobs, twitter will be finegrafician
- maquito12
It's amazing that one of the richest guys in the world can have his head so far up his ass and so few friends to reach such an absurd point of narcissism. Even though he could've become a visionary apostle of technology in the future of humanity, he decided to get high on his own ego and slaughter a Fortune 500 business. What an absolute asshat.
- https://i.gifer.com/…maquito
- He definitely didn’t read the room with that Hardcore Worker Poll.instrmntl
- I am also amazed at how much I am enjoying this shit storm despite the hundreds of people w/o jobs it is leaving as a result.maquito
- The way things are going eLoN might be the first person to spend $44 Billion on a domain name.jonny_quest_lives
- It's mostly all nonsense though. Tabloid bullshit, headlines, constant posts, qbn obsession... and he plays into all like a troll.inteliboy
- Some Elon fuckbois are so blinded by their worship of Elon that they do t even realize that Twitter is more than an app and pretend that it’s perfectly fine.monospaced
- https://twitter.com/…jonny_quest_lives
- Maquito! You are still around? Nice to hear from you.SimonFFM
- Twitter is a way of life.palimpsest
- @simon! Sup?! Yeah, lurking every once in a while :Pmaquito
- A "visionary apostle of technology in the future of humanity" is precisely what he was before he became a Republican. How do you people not notice this?MondoMorphic
- i wonder what you guys would say if a Nikola Tesla or a Frank Lloyd Wright type of person was alive doing something out of the norm today********
- a Walter Fallon type********
- Kanye fits the definition of asshat more then Elon imho, unless you have a time machine I'm pretty sure the complete demise of twitter hasn't happened yet.********
- Sam Bankman-Fried is a glorified asshat********
- i guess the point is there is a lot of unstable geniuses in history who changed & made things while also being narcissists and destroyed things********
- in this case the future is unwritten yet. id save hate and see how things play out.********
- PhanLo0
I sort of thought Elon might like Jones but old Alex thinks Musk will be part of the demon overlord brainchip human slave story, similar vibe to Icke I suppose and he got banned on day 1.
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- maquito0
He still sleeping there?
https://imgur.com/a/EIsg2hr- He couldn't get in the building yesterday because he fired the person who worked on the entry system, had to call her at home.PhanLo
- jonny_quest_lives1
Musk texts that were entered into discovery during the short lived Musk vs Twitter court drama before he went forward with the purchase...
https://www.documentcloud.org/do…
it's interesting to see where Twitter 2.0 goes now that eLoN Jason Calacanis brain trust is in charge
- some Alpha brain level contributions in there too from Kimbal! Migrate Twitter to the blockchain.jonny_quest_lives
- lol @Larry ellison's "new twitter"... What a gem, jonny...maquito
- who's "jack jack"?maquito
- "Calacanis' name was found in Jeffrey Epstein's little black book on page 9"jonny_quest_lives
- -via wikipediajonny_quest_lives
- @maquito Jack Jack = Jack Dorsey... think he lost eLoN when he pitched him on converting Twitter to an open source protocol run via a foundationjonny_quest_lives
- Calacanis had the brilliant subscription ideas as well as the bringing back Justin Bieber... these are not bright people.jonny_quest_lives
- Just Insanely rich dudes with bad monetization ideas.jonny_quest_lives
- grafician-8
- Are those employees, users or stakeholders?maquito
- https://twitter.com/…jonny_quest_lives
- instrmntl0
He’s getting desperate...
Musk publishes poll asking whether he should reinstate Trump
Just before 5 p.m. Friday, Musk decided to poll Twitter users on an issue of national security. "Reinstate former President Trump," he wrote, without a question mark but with an option each for yes or no.
As of 5:15 p.m., the poll had amassed more than 1 million votes, with 61.6% of respondents saying Donald Trump should be let back on Twitter and 38.4% saying he should not be. Trump's account was permanently suspended in the aftermath of Jan. 6, 2021, "due to the risk of further incitement of violence," Twitter wrote in a blog at the time.
Musk did not indicate when he planned to make the decision, only tweeting six minutes after he shared the original poll: "Vox Populi, Vox Dei." The phrase translates from Latin to mean, "The voice of the people is the voice of God."
- and even more ads pulling out. after thatpango
- Banning Trump was the origin event.palimpsest
- He spent $44 billion to get Trump back on Twitter.NBQ00
- Pretty much.instrmntl
- monNom0
They say a good developer is 10x more productive than an average developer. So you could theoretically cut away 90% of your developers within the organization while only losing 10% of your effective capability. If you did that, you would need far less middle management, far fewer meetings about meetings, etc.
I don’t know that that’s the master plan, and I don’t think it’s a very intelligent way he’s going about it, but I can see how you could argue that a drastic headcount reduction might not be lethal for an organization like Twitter. What were all those people doing there? Certainly not adding features.
It should also be noted that you can effectively lose 90% of your capabilities by getting rid of your top 10%. The way things are going, you have to wonder if those star players are already gone.
- Many public tech companies needed to show continuos growth so the stock won't tank. In an era of zero interest, free money...grafician
- ...and now that Twitter is no longer public, the new owners are stripping it to the minimum.grafician
- For the rest of the tech companies still public, they scream "recession" and cut thousands - the same dead weight accumulated during the boom yearsgrafician
- Business 101, but everybody wants to have a voice these days = all this nonsense dramagrafician
- Yes including Elon Musk who by re-building in public wants all this attention...grafician
- My question: why the fuck anybody cares about how twitter is run as long as it works?!grafician
- You should care how quickly Amazon is burning out people: https://candor.co/ar…grafician
- But I never seen Bezos getting the attention for how Amazon was run, even tho' is considered one of the most toxic companies to work for
Oh wellgrafician - @monNom yeah it was probably 20% of the people doing 80% of the work?grafician
- Bezos is just as bad. Twitter is not just all developers. Content moderation, advertising, brand, legal etc.instrmntl
- very few developers in the layoffs, and good developers can go anywhere... why stick at a company run by a man who can fire you or tank the company on a whim.kingsteven
- It's just good business, it's like investing at the bottomgrafician
- Before posting and having an opinion on all this, I've followed all the people leaving twitter, it was nobody importantgrafician
- Key people are still there and most probably very handsomely rewarded
Twitter going to Mars...grafician - Perhaps you should al consider that the world now is more complex than it ever has been and that the days of making millions running an apache server are overjonny_quest_lives
- Whole lot of misplaced anger/projection on the "tech proletariat" who are often both highly skilled/educated far beyond these elon stans.jonny_quest_lives
- So it makes them feel better to label these ex Twitter engineers as lazy, incompetent and dumb because they will never reach that level of success themselves.jonny_quest_lives
- Much in the same way I critique eLoN... I myseld will never become a billionaire with so little charisma or talent. So it makes me feel good to hate on him.jonny_quest_lives
- That being said he signed up for the spotlight/criticism by wrapping himself up in this "Phony Stark" persona of his.jonny_quest_lives
- "Before posting and having an opinion on all this, I've followed all the people leaving twitter, it was nobody important
grafician"jonny_quest_lives - Why do u bother posting something so absurd as well as factually incorrect?jonny_quest_lives
- Mazdak Hamashi leaving is a significant blow... https://www.wired.co…jonny_quest_lives
