America is Fucked
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- grafician-2
- How can people be so stupid to post a photo of a tv, screenshot of a phone, and a link to a tweet?imbecile
- The article in question
https://www.cbsnews.…imbecile - thanks imbecilegrafician
- Bobo, Derpboy and or Yuriyoth will be more than happy to chime in with their commie comments.utopian
- They aren’t denying based on race though. That would be too easy to bust them on. It’s something elsemonospaced
- Curious what they're giving as the reason, if not just ghosting them completely with no reason at all.monospaced
- Monospace... Really? You have NOT being following the story of America obvs. Let me refresh your memory - Slavery, Jim Crow, mass incarceration, Redlining...necromation
- That is just African Americans... I have no idea how people can be so blind to what is directly happening in front of there faces. Fucking sad mannecromation
- grafician1
Jeff Kasanoff
@JeffKasanoff
Very American to decide we are bored with COVID and therefore it is over
- utopian0
“the World has been introduced to a new phrase Herd Immunity which is a good one. In my opinion we need to adapt a Herd Mentality. A herd gathers it ranks, it allows the sick, the old, the injured to meet its natural course in nature.” - Ken Turnage II, Republican, Chairman of the city’s planning commission
- make that ex-chariman
https://www.latimes.…Bluejam - guess he didnt plan for that to happenBluejam
- make that ex-chariman
- yuekit2
Ex-FDA head says mitigation hasn't worked "as well as we expected"
Former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb told CBS News' "Face the Nation" on Sunday that despite widespread mitigation efforts, the coronavirus has exhibited "persistent spread" that could mean a "new normal" of 30,000 new cases and over 1,000 deaths a day through the summer"
- What? What? You mean ignoring it for months, not having infrastructure in place, pushing snake oil cures, being lax with lockdowns and their enforcement ...Continuity
- ... and having the shittiest primitive health care system on Earth haven't worked??
Say it ain't so.Continuity - Fuckinhg lol continuity exactly not to mention yahoos getting together in large crowds daily to protest_niko
- whatthefunk13
- 卐 Hayoth Approved®utopian
- "...from my cold, dead genitals"nb
- MGTOW!!!monospaced
- I LOL'd.nocomply
- i read it with Braveheart voiceBennn
- neverscared0
no maks in sight but maybe give them a pepsi
- fooler12
- yuekit1
- yup, it's going to be 0, like a miracle.renderedred
- seeing the NY metro area go down like that is reassuringmonospaced
- seems like new yorkers get the idearenderedred
- I believe we do. We had a lot going against us, much of it unavoidable in any scenario, and we are pulling through.monospaced
- PhanLo0
- but don't take a knee, you might be blackballed from doing your job for life.utopian
- ^nobody wanted Kaepernick bc he was a shit quarterback- not because be polarized the sportrobco
- nice of you to defend a 20MM pro athlete rather than people who are fighting to get back to work though- priorities.robco
- Kaepernick is definitely taller than 20mm.PhanLo
- BusterBoy-5
Graphic video below. Ahmaud Arbery, 25 of GA., whose family says he was out for a run, confronted by 2 men who shot him dead saying they thought he was a burglar. FUCKED.
- Fucked indeed. Wish I'd never watched that.PhanLo
- disgusting and dishearteningutopian
- White and MAGA Proudutopian
- Wow, wow, wow. This is so disgusting. Even if he had committed a crime, these two asshats aren't the judge and jury. I hope they rot in jail.MarleyMarl
- They weren't even arrested for this. Leaving up to a grand jury FFS.BusterBoy
- Hang them.Nairn
- How have these people haven't been arrested? It's disgusting.instrmntl
- utopian3
Corporate America is in crisis
In no particular order and with varying degrees of urgency, here's a list of companies that have just in recent days said they are under extreme stress as a result of the coronavirus shutdowns.
These are companies that are in crisis: undergoing massive layoffs, posting record losses, and in some cases, filing for bankruptcy.
Massive conglomerates
Disney's parks are closed, its movies aren't in theaters, its cruise ships aren't at sea. The company said Tuesday that its profit plunged 91% in the first quarter. (It also said its Shanghai park will reopen next Monday.)GE is permanently cutting a quarter of its global workforce.
Clothing companies
J. Crew filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection Monday.
The Gap is running out of money and stopped paying rent.Retailers
J.C. Penney has missed debt payments and is in negotiations with lenders.
Neiman Marcus has a crushing debt load.
Sears has been distressed for years.
Food
Tyson Foods has warned of more meat plant closures even as Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to keep plants open.Fitness
Gold's Gym filed for bankruptcy.Foreign airlines
Lufthansa is losing $1 million an hour.Domestic airlines
United says employees should consider voluntary separation and also laid off a third of its back office staff.
Boeing, which was already in trouble because of problems with its 737 Max, will cut 16,000 people.Cruise lines
Norwegian Cruise Line's accounting firm said in a government filing that it may go out of business.Hotels and housing share services
Airbnb announced massive layoffs. Marriott and Hilton have both furloughed employees.Autos
Hertz got an emergency lifeline from lenders. Car companies are having difficulty too. Ford told investors it will lose $5 billion next quarter.Oil companies
If oil stays extremely cheap, hundreds of US oil companies could go bankrupt.
Not all companies are under stress. Amazon views itself as part of the national shelter-in-place infrastructure and it is reaping handsome rewards. It's making $10,000 in sales every second, according to one estimate.- who the fuck is at the top? the Iron Bank? whoever the end dept holder is should just fuck off for a while no?_niko
- The banks have been on a knife edge since 2008. They all survive on debtors without having any capital themselves.monoboy
- Governments bailed them out by borrowing from China or printing money.monoboy
- Business like these run on super tight margins with the sole aim of enriching shareholders. All capital goes to them.monoboy
- So they've spent the last decade finding ways to make things faster and cheaper.monoboy
- The western economic system has just hit the wall. Bigtime.monoboy
- You can grow a consumer economy without any consumers.monoboy
- *can'tmonoboy
- Team GOP will be under massive pressure to re-open, and let the virus kill off the 'surplus population' and get people spending again.monoboy
- The virus disproportionally affects the old and the poor. They must be absolutely torn and desperate to find a way to get the US population to swallow it.monoboy
- It's not as if they'd ever do the right thing.monoboy
- Which in my guess involves seizing and shutting-down all tax havens, capping and taxing dividends, so big biz can pay back any Gov backed loans with interest.monoboy
- That Central banks issue based on strict criteria for a sustainable global economic system that enriches more than just the 1%.monoboy
- But. Que sais-je?monoboy
- It's all smoke and mirrors.utopian
- "They all survive on debtors without having any capital themselves".
That's.. how banks work, no?Nairn - I don't disagree that actual capitalist 'survive or die' principles shouldn't be applied though. Modern capitalism needs to evolve. Perhaps now's a good time.Nairn
- Strikes me that massive systematic change tends to happen in times of widepsread strife. What will this birth? Hopefully not WW3, lol lol lol lol oh dear godNairn
- I suspect nothing will change before any radical change unless a full-scale currency war forces things.monoboy
- That or social unrest if the downturn is as bad as its expected to be—possibly even an uprising.monoboy
- With a bit of luck, the public will turn back to more progressive liberal politics.monoboy
- neverscared1
Ted Cruz is back on Fox News to complain about the censorship of Top Gun https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/…
- Cruz is a doofus, but there is more to this story than Top Gun + China. The US gov also manipulates Hollywood films. Mass media manipulation is big business.nb
- The US gov acts like China, giving funding to movies that meet certain script demands. Think of it like the military as a brand doing product place placement.nb
- Cruz isn't wrong on the facts. But he's advocating that Hollywood (*private sector!) should be loyal to the USA when influencing the public. Up for debate.nb
- commieutopian
- ^ted cruz is a 'commie' for pointing out how hollywood cow tows to china? please explainrobco
- or was that for nb?robco
- it's a joke, GI robmonospaced
- A cow tow does sound like a particularly American sport, no offence.Fax_Benson
- https://lexusenthusi…Fax_Benson
- robco-5
who else here actually lives in America besides me?
- the guy that started the thread for one_niko
- Not me, still find America just a social experiment...grafician
- ^what do you think America can learn from Romania?robco
- Actually we're very similar societies. Most East European countries looked up to America as a model for democracy. Not so much these days tho'grafician
- I see- what do you mainly think is different with American democracy now, vs when East European countries looked up to America?robco
- why do you ask?monospaced
- that depends?utopian
- We're getting into a nice discussion plz don't spoil itgrafician
- So, robco, the change is the choice for president ofc, we all rooted for Obama, not so much for Trump for obvious reasons.grafician
- We also don't understand you wasting time not changing your healthcare and political systems for the good of all americans. Robo included!grafician
- "We" as in we all liberals in Europe and worldwide I guess. We respect your choices, we just don't understand them.grafician
- So that being said, just sad you guys going thru all this nonsense that could be avoided. We still rooting, make America great again is a cool goal, but...grafician
- ...but that coming from actual leaders that can really commit to change and really pull it off! So yeah...grafician
- we've seen the kind of 'change' in California that Obama wanted for the rest of the united states. Ca is close to being a welfare staterobco
- Californians dont want it, and the rest of America doesnt want it either- the majority dont want the government between us and everything we dorobco
- and thats whats happening in Ca right now- ask anyone that is seeing these tent cities pop up- its destroying the state and it will destroy america toorobco
- Nothing can destroy America, chill. But yeah, from outside CA seems like a leader in handling this pandemic. What are we missing?grafician
- Btw across the border in Mexico, the cartels ffsake are enforcing the lockdowns!grafician
- Wouldn't the presence of tent cities indicate a complete lack of welfare? Especially given the size of its economy.monoboy
- Maybe the Governator wasn't up to the job?monoboy
- we didnt need to be a leader, Ca always had substantially lower cases- the extra month of quarantine is gutting small businesses hererobco
- Newsom wants to use federal money to bail out Ca to put more people on welfare now, instead of solving Ca's issues- thats socialismrobco
- California pumps more money into the economy than any other state. It’s not a welfare state. It’s very rich. Red states are the biggest welfare states, literallmonospaced
- A welfare state is not bad at all, one step closer to UBI! If the state can afford it do it! CA is #5 in GDP WORLDWIDE! More than India! Get a grip!grafician
- Why do conservatives forget that CA was under republican governance for most of the the last 20 years?monospaced
- Anyway we're getting offtopic, America is NOT fucked, just needs better leadership ffsakegrafician
- ^EXACTLY. thats why Cuomo and Newsom shouldnt be asking for gov't support to further the welfare programs here. it incentivizes irresponsibilityrobco
- just like they shouldnt have been incentivizing hospitals to report deaths as Covid deaths- the greed and stupidity is hard to believerobco
- UBI will never work in america, people dont want it and dont need it- reason why? we have the right to alienate our labor, good systemrobco
- Not for long. Cuomo asks for help because the Gov aka the idiots are not doing their job. Cuomo would win president in November no doubt btw, the idiots know itgrafician
- Hey Mono- Ca has been Dem controlled since 1992 - prior to that, where were the tent cities and personal responsibility?robco
- This is what "we" don't understand why instead of helping, they running politics when people dying...No European country would sacrifice citizens for politics.grafician
- Except the UK, but Brexit happened so technically they are not EU anymore...grafician
- Cuomo will never win. NY hates him and the most of the rest of America has no idea who he isrobco
- When damage hits, you sacrifice politics, not citizens. US and UK doing the opposite right now. Bad. Sad.grafician
- Cuomo thinks they need help bc hospitals get tens of thousands of dollars from the fed govt when they report deaths as covid deathsrobco
- ^graf, that would be true- but in this case, Dem controlled states are literally destroying their economies on purpose so they can get handoutsrobco
- seriously, go on Newsoms twitter in the comments. Everyone in Ca hates his guts right now- and these are liberalsrobco
- Liberals here hate him for opening the state, conservatives hate him for keeping the state closed for too long. Its a hilarious lose-loserobco
- @robco not seeing that from outside. Idc about your political affiliation btw, I just care about ppl losing loved ones...grafician
- Btw you asked, here in Romania, we're coming out of lockdown, barbershops opening, we have under 1k dead, our Gov did well by usgrafician
- ^same. and thats why its interesting to get and global point of view- inside america things are not going well, and not for the reasons ppl outside think.robco
- So as we looked up to America maybe 'murica can look up to Europe for a good example on how to manage this shit. Just saying...grafician
- We just worry about you guys thats all, we don't want to look better and all that, just worry about good people having hard times, you know?grafician
- no offense but like how italy, france and spain managed it?robco
- most americans were happy with our leadership pre-corona, and are still happy with how its being managed- look at trumps poll numbersrobco
- there is a very loud angry american minority online that makes it seem like everyone here hates trump- but they dontrobco
- trump will be reelected- americans dont want bidenrobco
- America has 44% the population of the entirety of Europe - even with inaccurate reporting: USA= 77k deaths. Europe = 147k deathsrobco
- Nobody wants Biden, I give you that :))grafician
- But this year Putin don't gives a shit about Trump, he has bigger problems in Russia...grafician
- ...so how exactly is Trump winning?grafician
- Putin wanted Trump as president when America was ok, the situation changed in the meantime. Good luck with that.grafician
- trump is winning because (believe it or not) most of america doesnt want to end up like californiarobco
- most of america wants businesses to compete (supply and demand), solid borders, military and personal responsibilityrobco
- This pandemic destroyed all that, get a grip again!grafician
- There is no "getting back to normal" anymore! The new normal is a civil war unless you stop and give in, business over people is not as usual lolgrafician
- robco, no it hasn’t been dem controlled since 1992. Where did you hear such nonsense?monospaced
- ^haha. nah- Dem governors are trying to make everyone think the virus destroyed all that. most americans arent falling for itrobco
- Schwarzenegger was governor for 7 years up until 2012. And Wilson from 91-99. Both republicans. More than half of the last 3 decades were Republican.monospaced
- Once again. Why do conservatives think California was always democrat led? And ignore it is holding up the US economy. Red states are the leeches. Guaranteed.monospaced
- "Aside from 1964, California was a reliably Republican state in every presidential election until 1992, when it was carried by Bill Clinton...robco
- The state has voted Democratic in every presidential election since then, usually by lopsided margins." https://en.wikipedia…robco
- I dont have a good answer yet, Mono- i want to know too. https://www.latimes.…robco
- "most americans were happy with our leadership pre-corona, and are still happy with how its being managed- look at trumps poll numbers" Hmmmyuekit
- I would never rule out that Trump could pull a rabbit out of a hat and win again, but right now the polls clearly do not show what you're saying.yuekit
- https://www.realclea…yuekit
- https://www.realclea…yuekit
- ^hey yuekit- do you live in america?robco
- hey robco, yes I do but why does it matter?yuekit
- Trump is such a shitty president and human being that shit for brains Biden is actually crushing him in the polls lol anybody but trump I guess_niko
- Robco do you live on the states? Nobody calls it America. Hmm are you a Russian or Chinese troll?_niko
- If you’re really from Cali as you claim, what number did former baseball great for the clippers magic Jordan wear?_niko
- isn't majority of the members here based in US? also when you say america, do you mean the continent or the country (US)?pango
- lol @ robco still blaming Obama on shit. get over it and get mad at the actual people now in charge.inteliboy
- russian troll.neverscared
- i'm convinced Robco is a bot.necromation
- Outside we call it America in normal speech, the US or USA in formal writing/speech. Obv I'm not a russ ian or chinian bot lol!grafician
- just want to be sure. cuz majority of the members are based in americapango
- In my experience most people in the USA do in fact, call it America.yuekit
- It's MAGA not MUSAGA. Cmon guys!yuekit
- While CA might vote for only Democrat Presidents, that isn't the same as California being run by them. It's been Republican, despite your insistence it's not.monospaced
- You're very, very confused.monospaced
- I'm in NYC, with an off-grid place in the northern Catskillshardhat
- PhanLo0
- Super fucked.MarleyMarl
- Imagine having a problem with nurses and medical professionals. Seriously. Just imagine how ignorant and angry at the world you'd have to be. Sad!inteliboy