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- utopian-1
- Due to virus or lockdowns. Many others have benefited. Look at your fav tesla. In the end is it due to markets or gov and financial controls? Seems simple quest********
- Due to virus or lockdowns. Many others have benefited. Look at your fav tesla. In the end is it due to markets or gov and financial controls? Seems simple quest
- grafician7
"The Unraveling of America
Anthropologist Wade Davis on how COVID-19 signals the end of the American era"
https://www.rollingstone.com/pol…
p.s. so yeah, maybe you guys post more stuff like this and discuss it, instead of dumb memes and idiotic images for low-life 'muricah stuff?
Actually nobody wants to see the US turn before our eyes from the most developed country in the world into a shithole country in under 4 years and counting...
- speak for yourself i am happy with every state crumbling. they are obsolete.renderedred
- America was fucked for so many serious reasons, what we see today is just the result of the fuckery accumulated.grafician
- america is one big pyramid scheme. it's time to pay the bills.renderedred
- @render We are all connected, a failed state of this magnitude affects all others. Ripples in a pond mate...grafician
- Also posting shit memes of Florida men fighting alligators or Karens is just avoiding the real issues. Discuss the real issues - if you're actually interestedgrafician
- in my view all states and especially nation states should go away. they are just a burden on all of us (connected).renderedred
- Also there's no anti-America sentiment, we're just stunned on how low the low gets by now...grafician
- they are an 18/19 century relic by now.renderedred
- Speaking from an interested foreigner povgrafician
- i am not anti-american as in people. but america as an empire. burn that mofo.renderedred
- Oh and yeah, if we all foreigners would post all the crazy stuff ppl do right here locally, America would not be #1 anymore in a thread like this...grafician
- @render No more states? Funny guy...grafician
- LOL i live in the middle east, crazy shit daily...renderedred
- ^I live in Eastern Europe, tell me about it...grafician
- yeah. lots of people laugh at my opinion about states.renderedred
- I agree, our speck of dust hurling through the empty cosmos is way too small and insignificant for divisions and infighting, we need a single world order_niko
- With ai in charge for the benefit of all mankind_niko
- i'm with @niko, information based society is the future.renderedred
- imagine some code of loving grace managing our natural resources, tackling global warming, comparing and analyzing all human knowledge...renderedred
- imagine a world with no hunger for example...renderedred
- with same standards of education for everyone... for starters.renderedred
- You guys took it too far - the regular American has no clue, barely knowing who to vote for in the next election - that could change everything in the f worldgrafician
- I hope people in NY start to learn we're doing ok without the Fed. So, we can secede from this country. Hopefully others will follow.CyBrainX
- I'm all for the idea of devolving states but I think people would need to embrace the idea of more global cooperation, less tribalism...yuekit
- ...giving people greater freedom to live and work where they want, in other words exactly what everyone seems to be against right now.yuekit
- Isn't an end but a decline to a sustainable, more realistic level. This will ease on the polarized balance of power in the world.sted
- #yuekit, one of the problems, tribalism, nationality, patriotism and even religion, all that should be erased from education to begin with and only thenrenderedred
- after two generations we may see positive results, meaning you want to be jewish, muslim, black, green or even a junkie, sure, your personal choice, nothing torenderedred
- nothing to do with society. your freedom of choice 100%.renderedred
- and with no states to fuel that shit it would be possible. i know i sound utopian and i rarely voice these opinions. ppl always laugh when i say stuff like thisrenderedred
- /commi rantrenderedred
- @render in a "commi" country there is no polarised pov, it's the party or...nothing else, never joke with these things my mangrafician
- Well you know communism like most isms can mean a million different things to different people...yuekit
- Anyway the fact that we can have a random discussion like this from different corners of the globe...an Israeli, a Romanian and a HKer-American in my case...yuekit
- ..sounds like the punchline to a joke is coming here but I think this is at least a small example of progress towards a more globalized, less nationalist world.yuekit
- Getting back to the article though I think any analysis of America’s decline needs to take into account the debt and end of dollar hegemony...yuekit
- This is what could (eventually) lead to it all crashing down...yuekit
- America is a clusterfuck********
- end nation states, smaller more localized, ppl focused states with smaller military budgets. That should be the case for all countries for a better future.Beeswax
- I dont want to live in a country where ignorant people decide for my future. If Turkey divides as an example they will realize how shitty theirBeeswax
- lives are compared to more progressive cities and states. Or they won't and thats their problem.Beeswax
- “Most developed country” - based on what exactly?mort_
- Countries are like inheritence, divide and give everyone their share otherwise problems arise. Of course sharing part will be problematic. But we already haveBeeswax
- administrative borders for cities and provinces. There shouldnt be much argument there.Beeswax
- Of course at some point in teh future the heavily militarized one will go and gobble the rest unless there are strong alliences.Beeswax
- @bees you have a point, in my view smaller self-sufficient communities are the way to go. then interconnect based on knowledge and commerce.renderedred
- @graf i was joking with /commi stuffrenderedred
- @yuekit, i said pyramid scheme, the fall from grace will be very painful.renderedred
- grafician4
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Excerpt from the article posted before:
"Evidence of such terminal decadence is the choice that so many Americans made in 2016 to prioritize their personal indignations, placing their own resentments above any concerns for the fate of the country and the world, as they rushed to elect a man whose only credential for the job was his willingness to give voice to their hatreds, validate their anger, and target their enemies, real or imagined.
One shudders to think of what it will mean to the world if Americans in November, knowing all that they do, elect to keep such a man in political power. But even should Trump be resoundingly defeated, it’s not at all clear that such a profoundly polarized nation will be able to find a way forward. For better or for worse, America has had its time."
So yeah, there you have it...doesn't get clearer than this. Act accordingly.
- I went to one of his lectures just before lockdown. His books are great.Gnash
- How Every Empire Fallsutopian
- Not quite sure you guys understand the implications of the ideas presented here, but hey, we're on a designer forum...grafician
- What a gut punch that article is. I need a drink.mg33
- @mg33 sorry my man, but posting memes doesn't cut it anymore, you know what I mean, the stakes are pretty high this time...grafician
- PhanLo0
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- ReversedBusterBoy
- lol at that vid, " keep your hands off your weapons and continue to punch them in the face!"_niko
- Interesting graphics********
- @niko yeah I think they forgot they weren't in uniform at the time. Stop defending yourself!PhanLo
- moldero3
if you want to topple a government, all you need is Facebook.
- PhanLo0
- Perhaps she should set it as Maths homework. Probabilities can be tricky?Morning_star
- PhanLo1
- Some of the first people to lock down were athletes because they're worth so much money to other people. They're like racehorses or some shit.PhanLo
- you got to protect gladiators, otherwise no games :) education on the other hand who gives a shit...renderedred
- Sports entertainment is optional & disposable; classroom childhood education is not. Failure to recognize the distinction is a consequence of lack of education.********
- Good luck.PhanLo
- By that logic Busty, Education and those that enable it should be given the highest value in society. Failure to support teachers fears and anxieties is...Morning_star
- ^+1 Morningstar.PhanLo
- ...diminishing the future potential of that society in every discipline.Morning_star
- If you think education is essential then vote accordingly.monospaced
- There's one user here who argues that public education should be defunded, and he's quite possibly the most idiotic and uneducated person in the country.monospaced
- These tweets/points are so tiresome. All Americans love athletes and hate teachers. Right. Nicholas Ferroni needs to shut the fuck up.MondoMorphic
- ...said the communistHayoth
- ^ I clearly need to work on my reputation if that's what you think! lolMondoMorphic
- only an uneducated asshole would call another American a communistmonospaced
- What did we do before public controlled edu? Has edu improved or has the industry including power brick met like Harvard?********
- You have to understand why public edu was created in the first place. Read up on John Dewey. His thinking and background********
- Milan4
- Not nice from the police********
- Hard to see when he pisses himself. Pretty early on. Unusual behavior for some not fucked up. Man thank God for police********
- Do t think anyone here who would want to give up there job for dealing with shit like that 24-7********
- Well a few might actually want the power and be worse off********
- he was killed by the police... and you are thanking the police... what a cunt.pango
- deathboy loves murderers evidently to the post above.neverscared
- Give this man a golden coffin********
- Weird to see the whole thing in detail after all the events that followed. You can imagine an alternate reality where police are just like OK man, no problemyuekit
- just don't do it again, go home and get some rest. Yes he was fucked up but what he was arrested for was completely trivial.yuekit
- a psychologist at the scene could have helped. just sayin'...renderedred
- "You can imagine an alternate reality where police are just like OK man, no problem" not really, but I can imagine a reality where cops are getting fucked up********
- ^ don't be a (baby) dick********
- Sick society full of sick people. The whole thing is sad. What kind of life is this?_niko
- We have the best life right now (in all fucking history -- we have internet, casual butt sex, airplanes) but we're still fucking dissatisfied big ass crybabies.********
- Some do most live like this poor bastard. Most of the developed world has a much higher standard of living than the US, in most of the developed , civilized_niko
- World you can walk around in any neighborhood in the country with no fear of being murdered by a sick trigger happy populace or police_niko
- We are at a huge disadvantage to our ancestors - they didn't have to read babydick's absolute fucking shite.face_melter
- ^ I'm sure your std infested cum melts off faces.********
- the main problem is that the social security net is so bad that lot of US people have not much chance to break out of downspiral and druglife. fuck that&change!api
- Not nice from the police
- utopian8
- Like a hot club. Why we have to have a ton of bouncers.********
- https://www.asherfer…
Mexico at least.deadsperm - plz have more bouncers to stop people from getting out.pango
- prison guards are already on the street beating protesters.pango
- seriously! don't let anyone get out of america!pango
- Less a club and more a cage of rabid lab rats, DB.FNP14
- Like a hot club. Why we have to have a ton of bouncers.
- yuekit1
Asked about the protests over the Belarus presidential election, Trump admin says they are deeply concerned about "severe restrictions on ballot access," "intimidation of opposition candidates" and "detention of peaceful protesters"
- PhanLo2
- Chris Morris needs to do a Three Lions on these dudes can call it Reintarnation.
Lots of Karma.monoboy - ^Waiting for a storm that never comes. But armed to the teeth just in case.PhanLo
- DET
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VESTface_melter - Terroristsmonospaced
- @face_melter trigger wasn't working.sted
- fine people, tippy top...renderedred
- You want it, but your not going to get it. Just like the apocalyptic plague you were harping about a few months ago that was supposed to decimate the populatitoemaas
- i never said it was going to be apocalyptic Toes, just said take care.PhanLo
- Because said plague wasn't treated seriously it has decimated the population, maybe not via their airwaves, but financially a lot of people are fuckoed.PhanLo
- Chris Morris needs to do a Three Lions on these dudes can call it Reintarnation.
- PhanLo7
America is Having the Mother of All Social Collapses
If American Life Feels Frightening, It’s Because It’s Imploding — In Gruesome and Catastrophic Ways
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https://eand.co/america-is-havin…
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Trump’s America is many things. Even I struggle to express the extent of the calamity in words by now. It’s a place where mass death is an everyday affair. Trump’s America is a plague state, wracked by illness and disease. Trump’s America is an economic trainwreck. It’s a society whose social bonds have been blown apart by hate and brutality and selfishness. It’s a budding police state — those “federal agents” are coming to your streets. It’s a collapsing nation — one imploding into authoritarianism, poverty, disease, and death.
Like I said, even I struggle to put it into words.
But the economist in me can express it much more succinctly and precisely.
When I say “The Mother of All Social Collapses,” I mean it. Trump’s America is a society that combines all the strands of social collapse that we know if — and then some. Yes, really.
Economically, Trump’s America is Soviet. Politically and socially, it resembles Nazi Germany. And culturally, it’s Taliban-esque, aggressively retrograde. That’s a lot of ruin for one country, which is why it’s so hard to put into words. It really is breathtaking and staggering when you think about it.- uh that's dumb as fuck.
Economically, Trump’s America is Soviet
no, not a hand-controlled, state owned economy.sted - Politically and socially, it resembles Nazi Germany
no, for example isn'tcentralized and directly repressive and provocative against a certain minority...sted - "culturally, it’s Taliban-esque,"
whoever the fuck wrote this has no idea what "culturally" means.sted - Vanilla Isis is real.PhanLo
- Life in America doesn't feel frightening.toemaas
- That's because you're fearless Toemaas. I remember you saying the increasing death rate was fine too. You'll be fine.PhanLo
- Mother of all collapses? lol.
Let's not get carried away, pretty sure if you go there you'll just find people doing normal American things.yuekit - Eating hamburgers, watching Netflix, talking about what they watched on Netflix...yuekit
- Granted I have not been home in a while but I assume most of the country still exists.yuekit
- Ugh. The idea it's Trump's America. Hes more a Clinton president. Hasn't do e much. Mainly media for headline bucks using free press has done more to undermine********
- Image. His executive power abuses fall in line as others. Terrible. Will say Twitter should ban him but it's all they got.********
- But we are not in a proxy war. However his fiscal policies of doubling down is more him understanding the fuck ups we have been making post wwii********
- So far the loudest voice I have seen is the left and most hostile. Even election night in a pub of I'd guess wealthy, but very conservative blue collar business********
- Owners hunters out door types and not one fuck given to election. Beer and sports and friends and fa.y only concern********
- While the media faces melted off. If trump had america it's all tabloid media and those who dig that drama. If anything he has proved it perfectly. How many me********
- Companies that live soley on tabloid shit against him. Nytimes CNN are more successful than fox for him********
- What bugs me the most is of like 20 Democrats were only peoe making any hollow promises of Rich's not there's to give. And on the right bill weld the only guy.********
- This team shit. Is no one on the left or right better than trump? That has any principle. That is the tragedy********
- But framers understood it. Washington lived by it. Why such power has to be decentralized. Ppl need to focus local not king worship through media lense********
- Inequality in the US has reached the same level as pre-revolutionary France. The 1% have used a heady mixture of fear and hatred to keep the status quo.monoboy
- The zombie economy has run out of free fed dollars, households have crippling debt, and it's looking like a depression is on the way.monoboy
- If the last four years has taught us anything, it's that people are dumb enough to walk straight into fascism.monoboy
- All it takes is a third of the people, to kill another third, whilst the last third does nothing.monoboy
- By the time Trumpy gets booted in November and probably imprisoned. It might be too late.monoboy
- If he wins, it's a nailed on certainty that America will implode and take the world with it.monoboy
- Here's Linda with the weather.monoboy
- Btw, it'll start with the collapse of the 'rentier economy' when do nothing rich people run out of hard working families to skim because they can't pay.monoboy
- The working class will get thrown under the bus, again. Banks will fuck every break even businesses that leases, then the middle class landlords.monoboy
- The federal bank will do everything it can to try to keep borrowing and inflation low because all the banks are trading on air.monoboy
- When the housing market crashes, the banks fail and confidence goes in the dollar. Carnage.monoboy
- The US can't do a traditional Nazi economic trick, because they've already spent every tax dollar on their military since the 80s.monoboy
- They'll just go straight to the full-scale invasion of somewhere. Iran probably.monoboy
- Or we could re-invent the global economic system into one that's inclusive of all through radical legislation and reform.monoboy
- Que sçay-je?monoboy
- How is line height = 1.4 in this post, while its 1.5 everywhere else?
https://i.imgur.com/…
https://i.imgur.com/…drgs - I NEVER SAID I WAS OK WITH A RISING DEATHRATE!! Proof that all you want is to divide and create hate. No amount of "Drawing of the day" posts will make uptoemaas
- You did, you said it wasn't anything to worry about. Things seem absolutely awesome now though. Didn't you say more people would die of the flu?PhanLo
- No I didn't say either of those things. I was trying to quell your "End of the world/America" hype. Just like I'm trying todo with this ridiculous post.toemaas
- I'm not a believer in the end times, it'll all probably be fine. With a record recovery. Everyone high fives.PhanLo
- uh that's dumb as fuck.
- PhanLo8
- tippy toprenderedred
- It's called capitalism, look it up or ask deathboy.utopian
- PhanLo-1
- Big tough guy Trump suporter. Must have a tiny cock.BusterBoy
- soooo.... in what world does a pandemic ever actually exist to these morons? what exactly needs to happen for them to believe in viruses and vaccines?inteliboy
- It maybe has to be like in a film where from a touch the skin instantly starts to blister and fill with puss. Then blood out the eyes and anus.PhanLo
- lol Arizona is so fucking stupidmonospaced
- on top of these rednecks we've got a plethora of college-aged twats that still clog up restaurants / bars... I don't even go to pick up food anymorePonyBoy
- Sorry.monospaced