Game of Thrones
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- yuekit3
It's interesting how we've entered this new era where everyone critiques a story in real time. So much anger out there at the writers...they went from screenwriting geniuses to total fuck ups lol. I wonder if they are thinking twice about handing them control of the new Star Wars films.
In their defense however...imagine you are tasked to adapt a famous book series with the promise that the writer will finish the books and keep pace with the TV version. The writer then totally fails to deliver and gives you only a vague outline to continue with.
Meanwhile millions of people around the world are declaring it the greatest show of all time, naming their kids after the characters etc. Sounds like the project from hell haha
- They dropped the ball *because* they were given Star Wars to work on. They should have handed the reigns to someone else if they wanted SW.i_monk
- Continuity2
@yuekit
I'm going to agree with you. The writers had the unenviable task of having to finish this thing without any source material to speak of, past a certain point.
I didn't mind S08, and I didn't mind the finale.
Was it a bit rushed? Yes. I'm not quite sure why the creative team made the decision to have such a short season, but OK. It is what it is.
I don't agree at all with a lot of the critics that say there were a lot of out-of-character moments this season. I think Dany, Tyrion, et al actually evolved as they should have; we just didn't see the transformations take place more organically over a longer season, so it all felt un-earned.
But I do agree with how their characters ended up, there was just a lot of head-canon blank-filling to be done.
- +1Ramanisky2
- Arya was meant to kill Cersei not the NK, huge arc only to be convinced not to by Clegane? that was stupidernexbcn
- Why reveal to Jon he was a Targaryen, did not serve any purpose also, bunch of story arcs laid to wasteernexbcn
- Well, I think revealing to Jon he was a Targaryen was fine, it raised some stakes for him. And it reminded us that that family is as fucked up as the LannistersContinuity
- ... from an inbreeding POV, cos Dany was perfectly fine with getting boned by her nephew.Continuity
- section_0141
- lol! they did it againnnmaquito
- what a messok_not_ok
- huge win for arrowhead bottled watersarahfailin
- First they laugh at your democracy idea. Now, this.CyBrainX
- _niko0
They crammed more in 6 episodes than would have and should have taken 6 seasons previously.
- whatthefunk2
- Westerosworldsarahfailin
- Dragons get the finest ladies.CyBrainX
- CALLES1
Yawn. they could have made the show in 3 seasons with the storylines that mattered
- Ramanisky25
- They got real lazy with all aspects of the show, particular this season.utopian
- ^ aa yep.helloeatbreathedrive
- raf0
The the last drawn out 10 minutes were terrible...all I could think of was "The twist, where's the twist? You're running out of time, come on!!!"
- i_monk2
Peak Television is when a forgotten coffee cup or water bottle caught on camera gets a hundred articles about it the next day, including 'serious' news outlets like CNN. Even Lost wasn't under this much scrutiny.
- pango-4
- BK3
- mg333
This fan fiction on Reddit is getting a ton of love today, and it's well worth reading to have even an imagined "story after the story" to think about:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gameoft…
In the long years of his reign, King Brandon Stark was not loved by the smallfolk nearly so much as the quietude of his rule. Bran himself was a distant and near-silent king, with no taste for great celebrations or inspiring rhetoric. But when the Driftwood Queen demanded the independence of the Iron Islands in 313 AC, Bran granted it almost immediately; the expanded fleet that the Greyjoys had long laboured over had hardly left its harbours before the raven returned from King’s Landing. Dorne’s autonomy grew not with violence, but with carefully negotiated partnership, and though now Ornelia Martell is styled the Princess of Dorne, the Maesters of Oldtown would say that the lands beyond the Red Mountains are more closely entwined – through trade and goodwill – with the Five Kingdoms than ever before. It is said that, though the Seven Kingdoms became Six through the sacrifice of a million lives, the Six became Five without a single drop of spilt blood.
These years of calm saw the turn of seven long summers and seven mild winters. The external threats to Bran’s reign – the Braavosi blockade of 309, sponsored by the Iron Bank and facilitated by many mercenaries; the Second Crossing of the Dothraki Khalasar in 318; the Septons’ Rising of 331 or the coming of the Red Refugees in the decade afterward – seemed less desperate in comparison to the crises endured by King’s Landing in the warlike years before, as if an invisible hand were directing events, by slight nudges, toward the ends of stability and prosperity. Though terrible battles were rumoured in many parts of Essos, their effects were seldom felt in Westeros. One might also have expected some friction to arise from the King’s worship of the Old Gods, but Bran’s habits were so private, and his style of rule so tolerant, that for a time it seemed impossible that internal strife and religious discord could ever have been the hallmark of the Six – and then the Five – Kingdoms.Bran outlived every member of his original Small Council, and outlasted – as far as can be known for certain – every other Stark. Of his sister Arya, the Hero of Winterfell, little was ever heard again: she sailed West, beyond the reckoning and knowledge of all, within days of her brother’s coronation, leaving only the rumours that are shared and rendered into stories in every town of Westeros and Essos: of a single, ragged-looking Raven that flew out of a storm over the Western Sea decades later and on to the last high tower of the Red Keep, bearing a message whose contents were seen only by the King and his closest advisors. The tale that is most often told is that Arya reached the land that is West of West, and shared what details she could of the wonders there before meeting her own mysterious fate.
Sansa Stark, the Queen in the North, maintained strong relations with her brother’s kingdom and toward the end of her life was frequently to be found in the courts of King’s Landing or Dorne, having inherited from her mother a preference for the warmth. After her passing in 371 her bannermen selected Harrold Royce to rule the North.
Of the fate of Jon Snow – the Bastard of Winterfell, the Half-Stark, the Queenslayer, the Resurrected, the Friend of Wolves, twice named Lord Commander of Castle Black – very little is known. The Hand of the King, Tyrion Lannister, visited the North and the Wall in the first decade after Snow's return to the Night’s Watch. Of that visit he records that the Wall was all but unmanned, and that those who stood upon it were facing south, rather than north. The Hand was told that Jon Snow had, years earlier, gone forth with a great company of wildlings and northerners, disappearing into the dark forests of the Lands of Always Winter. Their exploration of those unmapped places are the subject of much conjecture: that Snow had been named the King Beyond the Wall, that he had made contact with the last enclaves of the Children of the Forest, that he was overseeing the settling of great underground cities among the twisting, interconnected roots of the Weirwood trees. It is said that the Greyjoys know something of those northernmost lands, and that Sansa Stark, before her death, knew more, but would not tell. The Lonely King, Bran the Broken, Bran the Bridgemaker, Bran the Wheelbreaker, surely knew more still – but in his quiet places and sanctuaries around King’s Landing, he seldom spoke a word, and to each successive Hand and Archmaester he entrusted fewer of his thoughts.
Finally, in 382 AC, at the start of his eighth winter, King Brandon embarked upon a final journey. He had aged but slowly in all the years of his reign, but age had come upon him nevertheless. His Kingsguard escorted him on the first leg of his journey – a secretive consultation followed by long weeks of contemplation or reading in Oldtown – and then took him as far as the Wall when at last he travelled North. After a night in the almost uninhabited Castle Black, Bran ordered the Kingsguard to return to Winterfell, and so on to the Five Kingdoms, where they were to supervise the selection of a new King of Westeros.
The last of the Starks then travelled North, beyond the wall, quite alone. The Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch reported that distant figures joined the King’s horse just before it disappeared into the treeline. No sight or word of King Bran has been heard in the long years since.
The winters are deeper now, and though King’s Landing is again fair and no great wars have troubled Westeros for many decades, some of the world’s wonder has diminished since the end of the time of Bran the Wheelbreaker.
- BK5
The last couple episodes felt like after you give your 2 weeks at work and totally stop giving a shit but still have to show up.
- helloeatbreathedrive0
I honestly wished for all the world to burn. But meh, that was a shit ending.
- ernexbcn-1
hahaha that was terrible, I hope HBO loses half their subscribers smh
- Good thing most people don’t subscribe to hbo just for this show.monospaced
- You want the company to be ruined because of this? Weird.monospaced
- good thing for you that hoping for something in a random message board does not make it magically happen, don't worry about HBO monoernexbcn
- ^ You still hope for it happen though?! Strange person.Hayzilla
- stop being so anal retentive and taking everything so literal, I was joking FFSernexbcn
- so you don't hope HBO loses half their customers because of a single terrible season of 1 of hundreds of shows they have made?monospaced
- if you want to keep arguing go argue with your gf monoernexbcn
- Stop. Making. Sense!!sarahfailin
- but I'm not arguing, and I don't have a gfmonospaced
- colin_s0
any defending the writers is ridiculous.
martin said they should take 11 seasons (full). HBO offered them money / time to do 10 full seasons - much less 10 full episodes per the seasons they did.
showrunners chose to not only cut it short, but hacksaw the characters in doing so... for some low-budget film spectacle (which is "high quality" because it's television and not a feature film).
if they do this to star wars it'll be watching the fucking prequels all over again.
millions and millions of dollars and these lines of dialogue, these character arcs - literally they had the strongest foundation of writing arguably ever to build on and they fucked up that bad?
they were laughing all the way to the bank, or so caught up in hollywood delusions of being famous that their acknowledgement of art and the real world only equates to volume of attention instead of quality of content.
i didn't even like the show as a whole that much, but watching it turn to such shit so fast... i mean for me it was pretty entertaining but i feel bad for those who were emotionally invested in it.
