45th Anniversary of Moon Landing
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- utopian0
Only the inbred, hillbilly, redneck conspiracy theory fruitcake nut jobs don't believe that man has never landed on the moon.
- set0
Are there any pictures of non-US origin showing the flag and launcher they left behind?
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- yeah the Albanians have a whole stack..._niko
- China, Russia....set
- Are there any other nations capable of taking such high res pics? Nope? Oh well.detritus
- lolApeRobot
- i got some on my flicker, i was there last year.ApeRobot
- You're telling me the US are the only ones capable of taking that kind of picture?set
- I don't claim to know but that sounds ridiculous...set
- The UK certainly did not, too busy listening to the Beatles.utopian
- yurimon0
Only the inbred, hillbilly, redneck conspiracy theory fruitcake nut jobs don't believe that man has never landed on the moon.
- detritus0
Here, set - knock yourself out, the Indian satellite that orbited the moon a couple of years back did actually take high-enough resolution images to make out details of the landing sites (I must admit, I thought they didn't - I thought it was just NASA's LRO that had).
http://phys.org/news171102159.ht…
of course, you could then argue:
"Yeah, but the Indians are American shills!"
or
"Yeah, but those could've been robotic tracks!"
or
*squints*
"They're CLEARLY reptile egg trails!"- IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE THIS PHOTO IN HI-RES, PLEEEZGeorgesIV
- Oh...are you going to run some tests in the lab? What a clown.marychain
- Hey I never said I thought the US didn't go to the moon... Just wondered if there were pictures to shut people up.set
- Thanks for the linkset
- I know I come across as a bit of a fringe nut sometimes but I believe they went to the moon.set
- Though that low res photo of standard moon terrain hardly does much to cement my beliefset
- It's the best of the world's been bothered to try and do... as I implied, the Yanks are WAY ahead in this game.detritus
- 'the best the rest of the world's been able to do.. ' evendetritus
- marychain0
So silly. I would have shoved that bible up his ass
- detritus0
I just find shit like this [sad] funny - kind of like all the speculation in the MH17 thing - as soon as the idea crystallises that 'all is not what it seems', then every-fucking-thing goes.
"The missile was fired by the Ukrainians!"
or
"The Ukrainians were trailing the jet with a fighter!"
or
"The security at Schipol is run by JewSpaceReptiles who are trying to distract us from Gaza!"
etc
etc
ad nauseum.Ok, so which is it? Or is it just high-spirited over ebullience from people incapable of accepting that the world is an unforgiving shithole that doesn't care about their opinion?
- i_monk0
If we could fake it 45 years ago with the technology of the day, why not fake it some more with better technology over the past decades? Why not fake things that are harder to disprove, like going to Titan or other places you can't just point a low-grade telescope at to confirm?
- I think alot of the arguments for faking was to have control of the visuals.yurimon
- Example. We didnt want the russians to have peek, by faking for the public. if anything happens you can control the perception.yurimon
- perception. they say it was a control issue. claim of national security. blah blah. but who knows.yurimon
- I think for the most part. same thing happens with space photos, they go through intelligence agencies before hitting the public.yurimon
- released to the public so who knows whats edited or actual if they really find anything..yurimon
- omg0
- Maaku0
2 simple questions.
I just want to know why they haven't been back, I don't think it's just a huge round rock.
And why the fuck are pictures so shitty, always black and white with low resolution.
- 1 - no need, political or scientific. 2 - which pics? No they're not.detritus
- *hopefully* we'll see a big resurgence in human missions to the moon - ther's just been other focuses for the past 40 yearsdetritus
- years (sadly and perhaps misguidedly!)detritus
- It would probably help if you watched audience response to later moon landings - The people stopped caring.detritus
- oh well :(Maaku
- you don't believe it's just a huge round rock? really?monospaced
- < Just assuming there's more than jus dirt there.Maaku
- what, like cheese? lol... sorry, but we know a shitload about the moon and we know what it's made ofmonospaced
- detritus0
Actually, Utopian - it was the British and Australian science communities that did much of the tracking and relaying of communications during the Apollo missions, aiding their American counterparts and in the process confirming through radio wave data the reality and existence of these missions.
Of course, it wouldn't've even crossed their minds that they should have to verify any shift in wavelengths that would confirm the veracity of the American enterprise.. that would've been what the Soviets were up to...
Ok, so it's not a high-res photo of the moon landing site as such, but it's as good as where evidence is concerned.
- monospaced0
"I don't think [the moon is] just a huge round rock." – Maaku
Really? Why not?
- we know a lot about the moon, and we know it's made of rockmonospaced
- moon is hollowyurimon
- Maaku0
Putting the conspiracies aside, there's probably more than just sandy dunes and craters.
- probably? why do you say that... how probable? based on what evidence?monospaced
- we've had telescopes and cameras on it for years, we have tons of instruments pointed at itmonospaced
- millenia evenmonospaced
- all instruments indicate it's a standard dense rock with no more volcanic activitymonospaced
- we even have rovers there confirming it for over a decademonospaced
- oops, that's mars :)monospaced
- Came back from lunch, no I don't have evidence of anything, just hoping for something cool :)Maaku
- set0
To be fair mono all you know about the moon is
what you can see at night. Everything else is faith.- sad statement is sad.utopian
- I hope you're being sarcastic set.monospaced
- You don't personally know anything at all about it other than what you yourself can observe.set
- What is so terrible about admitting that?set
- I can admit I didn't run the studies myself, but I certainly know a lot more about it than what I see at night.monospaced
- with your logic, you don't know anything about the gaza bombing because you can't see itmonospaced
- You don't know it at all, you believe it. Big difference.set
- Well I don't but it's logical to believe that all the photos and videos aren't fakeset
- Proof is proof. Instruments have given us tons of info. Just because I didn't gather it doesn't make it truemonospaced
- You tell him Yuri...utopian
- and all that evidence is readily available, and I take it for truth, like you believe video newsmonospaced
- Mono when you get to the moon and do the studies hola back yoyurimon
- Tell him Yuriutopian
- Yes but you're still confusing belief with knowing.set
- but we do KNOW a lot about the moon, I don't just believe it, we have samples and lots of infomonospaced
- we have rocks from the moon, we have instruments measuring its chemical makeupmonospaced
- if you think I only BELIVE This and that it's not true because I didn't measure it myself, that's just weirdmonospaced
- You don't know that you believe what you've been told. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Or admitset
- CyBrainX0
I bet I'm the only one here who remembers it happening. I was 6 and my parents woke me up. TV was nice but I wanted to look up at the sky. My thinking was the people would be too small but I might be able to see the lunar module or maybe the flag. (I didn't.)
- utopian0
Call me crazy, but I betcha' the sun will rise in the east and fall in the west tomorrow. It is just something I believe.
- Childset
- If you can't understand the difference between knowing and believing, that is.set
- what is the difference between knowing and believing?utopian
- Philosophically? nothing, Scientifically? everything.Morning_star
- utopian0
"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
Donald Rumsfeld