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gramme the hypocrite (like so many of his red-state bretheren):
despite claiming to be pro-life(pro-birth). .. you are ok with killing (even though the death penalty recently has killed an innocent man - and narrowly missed killing dozens of others) in contradiction to the 1st commandment.
you are a conservative despite the fact that most conservatives in this country support war and killing - and stated the only liberal you would support is one that supports war.
and you want to apply your laws and views to other womens bodies despite the fact that the bible you claim to adhere to, in your selfmad of of contradictions, is ambiguous about abortion.
and have yet to name a single politician that is an example of a "moral" one... but were quick to say the war-monger Lieberman was the only "Moral Democrat"
how does it feel to live in such a cloud of contradiction...?
spk
(Jan 23 06, 10:51)Spk.
If you are going to attempt to dismantly my faith and my character, you should educate yourself first. Point by point and as simple as I can make it for you:
The Bible is actually very clear about abortion:
"They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters...and the land was polluted with blood..." (Psalms 106:38)
Life is sacred, and it begins at conception. Some verses that back up this notion:
-Genesis 2:7
-Deuteronomy 30:20
-Job 12:10
-Psalms 66:9
-Isaiah 42:5
-Ezekiel 37:10
-Daniel 5:23
-Zechariah 12:1
-Acts 17:25, 28
-Hebrews 12:9About the death penalty: because we live in a corrupt world where people will kill eachother whether we like it or not, I believe that capital punishment is a necessary evil in order to help preserve the sanctity of life. It is very sad and unfortunate that on occasion innocent people die; however, I believe that the vast majority of those condemned to death by our court system deserve their punishment in light of the live(s) they have taken.
The Bible’s argument for capital punishment is based on the exact same premise as its argument against abortion, namely that life is sacred because it is created “in the image of God”. Genesis 9:6 says, “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.”
In other words, murder is so heinous a crime that God says in effect, “the most precious of rights, the right to life, is forfeited by the one who dares to wrest this right from anyone.” But, the execution of this punishment is not granted to the individual, but to civil government as is reinforce by the New Testament teaching about the “power of the sword” being given to the state and not the individual (Romans 13).In case you couldn't tell in my original post last night about Lieberman, I was being rather facetious, especially about how I'd only vote for him if he gained some muscle...you took me way too seriously there buddy.
I have already answered your question about moral, upstanding politicans. I don't know of any whom I would trust fully. I can't think of a single good man in politics who I would hold up as a solid example of good character and morals. I think the world of politics is full of corruption and I think that many of the people running our country today are doing a horrible job of it, Democrats and Republicans alike.
I don't presume to tell women what to do with their bodies. It has been scientifically proven that a fetus, an unborn child, whatever you call it, is actually a separate entity with a life of it's own. The fact that it physically depends on it's mother for sustenance does not negate its separate-ness, in fact it means that the mother is all the more accountable for nurturing and taking care of her child. And if not her, then someone willing to adopt.
Cloud of contradictions? I think you are the one living in contradiction and confusion, my friend. It's a very bad idea to misquote the Bible in my presence, and to lump me in with Jerry Falwell and his ilk. It reveals your bitterness and bigotry more than anything else.