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- gramme0
No worries k0na, I wasn't trying to slam you or anything. All in the spirit of friendly debate, at least as far as I'm concerned (I won't mention names like dobs).
I know the whole thing is shit for a woman who is impregnated via rape. I just don't think aborting the baby is the best thing. 9 months of discomfort and probably even a great deal of shame and embarrassment weighed against a potential child who could have a normal life w/ a loving family to adopt. I will never know the pain a woman in such a situation will go through...I just can't get away from the indisputable fact that it isn't the baby's fault.
- mrdobolina0
It's funny how none of you "conservatives" even attempt to answer any of my questions, that is why I call you people fucking morons.
- gramme0
It's funny how none of you "conservatives" even attempt to answer any of my questions, that is why I call you people fucking morons.
mrdobolina
(Sep 6 07, 14:36)Directed at me? I've answered enough questions from you to fill a 3-story building. If I ever neglected to answer a question from you, it wasn't b/c I dodged the question, it was b/c I was busy answering at least one other question from you.
- tommyo0
Yeah I'm actually an independent. Maybe if your questions didn't look like a 10 year old phrased them:
'how is encouraging the loss your civil liberties conservative?'
Then I would know what the hell you're talking about and I could help shed some light on things for you. You're very grown up by the way.
- mrdobolina0
nah, gramme. directed towards the clown troupe.
- morilla0
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn…
good god.... More points on the moron meter.
- tommyo0
I'm a clown?
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- mrdobolina0
grown up?
gimme a break. You honestly can't see what I am saying. Warrantless wiretaps, secret prisons etc. etc. etc. Seems to me exactly what the cold war was about right? A fight that conservatives were all about. Apparently not anymore.
Now go ahead, say something completely off the topic of that and declare victory, tommy.
- mrdobolina0
Your logic is flawed kid.
- gramme0
nah, gramme. directed towards the clown troupe.
mrdobolina
(Sep 6 07, 14:39)got it
- tommyo0
Sure, Kindly...it's not going to make any kind of difference as I've said...no one changes anyones mind on a website. Never has happened.
We're in a war. One we started or not, there are people who are motivated to take us on - economically. Again, I know history, I know how much we've meddled in the Middle East. However, we can't lay down and do nothing. Wiretaps, Secret Prisons...what you think these are new? Heard of an agency called the CIA? They gather Intelligence on people who might want to harm us (the term Intelligence is debatable haha). They've been doing this stuff for decades. The Cold War? That's a fight our whole country was about. Russia ended up folding like a card table and I see no correlation with how our interest in national security is 'Apparently not anymore.'
I know these are all things that make liberals cringe. However, some liberals also tend to be more than idealistic and don't know a thing called 'reality.'
- tommyo0
Dobs did you just call me 'kid?'
- PonyBoy0
I held this back earlier... might as well say it now...
... if a woman is carrying my child - I believe I have a say in the life or death... OF MY CHILD.
A buddy of mine in Dallas recently found out that his ex aborted their unborn child. He feels so disgusting inside... so HURT too... in his eyes his girlfriend murdered his child.
It's odd that it's illegal to birth a baby into a plastic bag and toss it in a dumpster... but if you 'handled' things only months earlier - you could've killed the kid and moved on to the next cock w/out issue outside of some out-patient fees.
And for those of you going on about the rape victims and women who's lives are in jeopardy - have a peak at the actual stats (reported at least - I know there are more rape victims out there that choose to not come forward about what happened to them)...
... you'll see that the numbers of those women when balanced against the women who abort because they don't want the responsibility/will effect their careers etc... are MINIMAL... TINY in comparison to the self-centered reasons...
Have a look over here at the Alan Guttmacher Institute's review over the past years...
... now I realize this is one institutes version of stats... so take them as you will (but pro-choice and pro-life groups have used this data):
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/…
"Actual percentage of U.S. abortions in "hard cases" are estimated as follows: in cases of rape or incest, 0.3%; in cases of risk to maternal health or life, 1%; and in cases of fetal abnormality, 0.5%. About 98% of abortions in the United States are elective, including socio-economic reasons or for birth control. This includes about 25% for primarily economic reasons."
- mrdobolina0
you would have been a good german, tommy.
- mrdobolina0
prohibition doesnt work, pony...
you know this.
- tommyo0
HAHA You're a sad little man. I feel bad for your folks.
- PonyBoy0
Prohibition may not work... but in some cases it IS the right the to do... such as prohibiting abortion for self-centered reasons...
... and if you do abort illegally (this is theoretical)... the mother AND the aborter suffer the consequences... which should be murderous - I mean... it was in the Peterson trial... right?... he was found guilty of murdering two people - not one.
It's just a matter of 'months' that we judge if the unborn baby was a 'human life' or not?
That's just disgusting.
In my mind... abortion is murder.
Murder is prohibited... but people will still do it... that doesn't mean we 'give in' and make it as legal as drinking coffee.
- PonyBoy0
it IS the right ^thing to do...
- mrdobolina0
Seriously, you would have been a great German, right around 1936.
It is obvious that this administration uses terrorism to get things to go its way. And you are one of the non-thinking simpletons that enables it because you are afraid for your precious security.
You are easily deceived and scared, so in essence you are dumb, ignorant and a pussy.
- mrdobolina0
I would personally never be a part of an abortion, for the record.