Hillary
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- JKilla770
Vote for Nader.....
- utopian0
"Let's stay in Iraq for another 50 or 100 years" - John McCain
- rtr0
VOTE FOR PEDRO!
- sputnik20
i'll vote for her if she pulls this face the whole time she's in office:
otherwise, not so much
- TheBlueOne0
OK, for all you kids who are too young to really remember what life in America was like under the culture wars of the 90's between the Clintons and everyone else, let me quote in length (apologies) a standard right wing screed against Clinton:
"Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her 'record,' which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or 'co-president' - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: - As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would 'demonize' anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) - Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as 'my worst mistake.' - Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. - Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. - Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. - In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for 'gross mismanagement' and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. - Another of Hil lary's assumed duties was directing the 'bimbo eruption squad' and scandal defense: ---- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. ---- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. ---- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. ---- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury ---- And Bill was impeached by the House. ---- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, 'I do not recall,' 'I have no recollection,' and 'I don't know' 56 times under oath). - Hillary wrote 'It Takes a Village,' demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. - Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother's clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. - Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. - In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the 'woman card' by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. - Hillary's husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary's correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) - As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. - Hillary's one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume’. Sounds more like an organized crime family’s rap sheet."
It was THAT polarizing. It was far more than "Clinton got a blowjob" although that sold because you know it's politicians having sex..
I liked Bill, still do. But after 8 years of Bush the last fucking thing I want is a Clinton 2.0 revival in the White House.
- Sounds pretty much verbatim what the Bush White House has been up to, just change the names.GreedoLives
- Bush is far, far worse....TheBlueOne
- Thanks for posting that TBO, brought back memories of my childhood!tommyo
- akrokdesign0
she will win. ( I hope )
- jfletcher0
I would still vote for her, but I'd be dissapointed. I think her ego is too big. That's not based on anything except gut feel and brand.
I hope if she wins Obama goes to VP. If he didn't it would be like the dems saying "we don't need to win". Its what's best for the dems, so I hope they put egos aside and work together for the good of the nation... but I'm not sure politics is about that any longer.- a clinton/obama or visa versa team will be a great thing.sea_sea
- Meeklo0
Response #3 [Feb 5, 08, 8:32 p.m.]
pr2: Dude, she might be worse then Bush.I would like to know what were you thinking when you posted that answer please. Thank you.
- Rodimus790
Hillary says one thing and does another. I wouldn't vote for her under any circumstances. She took more money from lobbyists than any member of Congress. She voted for the war. She voted for the Patriot Act. She received hefty donations from the military industrial complex.
She also continues the annoying dynastic aspect of US presidency where we elect inferior candidates because of their name.
All the experience rhetoric is nonsense considering what a horrible job she's done 'serving' the people.- so does mccain, so you would vote for that instead?mrdobolina
- 3rd party. Sooner or later enough people have to be fed up with the bipartisan system.Rodimus79
- Jaline0
^ summarize, please
- BonSeff0
she represented well on the daily show tonite
wish she was more real in the debates
- AndyRoss0
The problem with Hillary is that everyone either hates her, because she is such a whiner, or they hate her because she is who she is, or they hate her because she is Bill's wife (cheated on, without remorse).
So, if she's elected, she could be a disaster because she has no judgement. Or she could be a disaster because she does something crazy because she wants to show up Bill. Or, she could be a disaster because she is so hated, that no one, Republican or Democrat, will talk to her.
I don't know. I can't see her being a success in the White House.
- Mimio0
I dislike her because she fell for the whole "Gulf of Tonkin" bullshit surrounding the Iraq invasion, exactly why a Washington insider shouldn't be president. It's a game to these people.
- She didn't fall for shit. She voted that way for political reasons. It was painfully apparent then as it is now... for those where attentive and choose to remember.jellyneck
- those who were attentive and chose to remember.jellyneck
- Sorry, that's "choose" to remember. Anyway, she knew what the fuck she was doing.jellyneck
- flashbender0
^ Mentos for VP! (the fresh maker)
- Randd0
I would much rather have Hillary than McCain, but to me she still reeks of the old line party hack politico machine--the modern day equivalent of nominating mondale
- TheBlueOne0
As of this morning on the prediction markets Hillary is down 13.1 & Obama is up 10.1 making it almost a dead heat, although trends are favoring Obama.
This is people putting real money on this....
- cosmo0
HUCKABEE!
- *mutters, shakes fist, vomits bloodRandd
- you know he is the one. stop denying it.cosmo
- accepting is your only choice sir.cosmo
- I can't wait till the rapture wipes all the scum off the streetsRandd
- You're turning into a troll...Jaline
- was rapture the tornadoes?cosmo
- i have always been a troll, spread half a sentence of non sense and leave. that is me.cosmo
- I don't know...Jaline
- that what they should name street sweepersBonSeff
- a huckabee?cosmo
- Jaline2
seriously?
also, there are other threads about this...