Kerning Check
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- gramme
Kerning experts:
This is the final logo for my church, many of you helped quite a bit in the critique phase. The design is locked in, but I'm trying to finesse the kerning. It's a bit problematic in "OAKS". I'm looking at spacing the letters in two ways. Have a look here and let me know what you guys think. Presenting the final final tonight w/ color options.
- skt0
The left side looks to bulge a little towards the bottom with the C.
Don't have any problems with teh internal kerning though.
Does the type need to stack?
- PonyBoy0
is 'oaks' bigger than 'twin'?
That's bugging me the most... perhaps get the height / strokes to match... and then kern out the work 'oaks' a bit (open it up)...
... i'm still thinking... but that's my initial reaction... don't like the diff. in height between those two key words
- skt0
Twin Oaks on one line, with the pres church below in a smaller size would look better balanced in my opinion.
- CALLES0
The Church Of The Order Of Gramme?
- kelpie0
I think it may be tougher to kern for the reasons of the curves contradicting the alignment of the T and P but I like it stacked, I think it makes a better overall shape.
Have you tried bringing the O and C in to the right a little, it might optically help the eye line up the left hand side?
- doesnotexist0
twin oaks in one line, and pres church in one line as well
- PonyBoy0
yeah... keep it stacked... my opinion. :)
- PonyBoy0
no... not one line!!!
keep it all in line w/the logo... don't ruin that!!!
- kelpie0
oh aye and it's fucking nice by the way, lovely job
- pardon my unholy language ye mad christian dickkelpie
- fuckith thee!!!PonyBoy
- hahahahagramme
- 'mad christian dick' sounds dangerousbulletfactory
- gramme0
To stack or not to stack is not up for debate. It's a stacker. The design as is has been approved. I'm just looking to improve my letter spacing and can't decide which of these two solutions is better. If I make OAKS the same point size as TWIN but space it out to fit horizontally, the word OAKS appears full of holes.
Basically, all I want to know is: to ligature or not to ligature the AK combo.
- no imo, I preferred the spaced one. Think you can get round the "holes" thoughkelpie
- gramme0
That's why there are 2 pp. in this PDF.
- skt0
Not.
But fix the optical bulge on the left.
- You mean scale OAKS and CHURCH in to the right?gramme
- in fact, fucking fill in those counters too, statkelpie
- yes, push the O and the C in a littleskt
- NOgramme
- suit yourself. you asked for advice though.skt
- *no to filling in counters ye soggy biscuitgramme
- *not @ sktgramme
- *just to clarifygramme
- *so we're all on the same pagegramme
- Infact, it might the the P and the C that need moved right a little.skt
- that's what I meant up there ^ not sure what'll do it exactly but that's where the wee subtle problem is...kelpie
- gramme0
I CAN'T DECIDE
WHERE'S RAND
OR THAT MADCAP RELIC SPOOKYTIM
- moamoa0
page 2!
church: the H is to far from the C...
I think the rest is perfect
- jaylarson0
2. I like space between the serifs this time around. It's not as noticeable at 10% size. But it may help.
- johndiggity0
the "AK" gap is really drawing the eye because there's just a wall of type around it.
i think this would benefit from having twin oaks tracked out in all caps on one line and the presbyterian bit in a light small caps sans below.
there's just too much type now and it is detracting form your mark.