Kerning Check
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- gramme0
To stack or not to stack is not up for debate. It's a stacker. The design as is has been approved. I'm just looking to improve my letter spacing and can't decide which of these two solutions is better. If I make OAKS the same point size as TWIN but space it out to fit horizontally, the word OAKS appears full of holes.
Basically, all I want to know is: to ligature or not to ligature the AK combo.
- no imo, I preferred the spaced one. Think you can get round the "holes" thoughkelpie
- gramme0
That's why there are 2 pp. in this PDF.
- skt0
Not.
But fix the optical bulge on the left.
- You mean scale OAKS and CHURCH in to the right?gramme
- in fact, fucking fill in those counters too, statkelpie
- yes, push the O and the C in a littleskt
- NOgramme
- suit yourself. you asked for advice though.skt
- *no to filling in counters ye soggy biscuitgramme
- *not @ sktgramme
- *just to clarifygramme
- *so we're all on the same pagegramme
- Infact, it might the the P and the C that need moved right a little.skt
- that's what I meant up there ^ not sure what'll do it exactly but that's where the wee subtle problem is...kelpie
- gramme0
I CAN'T DECIDE
WHERE'S RAND
OR THAT MADCAP RELIC SPOOKYTIM
- moamoa0
page 2!
church: the H is to far from the C...
I think the rest is perfect
- Llyod0
AUTOKERN INIT
- jaylarson0
2. I like space between the serifs this time around. It's not as noticeable at 10% size. But it may help.
- johndiggity0
the "AK" gap is really drawing the eye because there's just a wall of type around it.
i think this would benefit from having twin oaks tracked out in all caps on one line and the presbyterian bit in a light small caps sans below.
there's just too much type now and it is detracting form your mark.
- gramme0
You know guys, call me crazy but at large and very small sizes the ligature helps. My eye doesn't immediately go to the AK space. The effect is better in print than on screen.
JD I had some versions before that were exactly as you described above, it just seems even busier (in this stacked version) with the introduction of another typeface. The client (and my boss) are pretty well married to the stacked arrangement.
- ...so, I must make it work in the current lock-up.gramme
- skt0
The left side looks to bulge a little towards the bottom with the C.
Don't have any problems with teh internal kerning though.
Does the type need to stack?
- PonyBoy0
is 'oaks' bigger than 'twin'?
That's bugging me the most... perhaps get the height / strokes to match... and then kern out the work 'oaks' a bit (open it up)...
... i'm still thinking... but that's my initial reaction... don't like the diff. in height between those two key words
- skt0
Twin Oaks on one line, with the pres church below in a smaller size would look better balanced in my opinion.
- CALLES0
The Church Of The Order Of Gramme?
- blaw0
Looks very nice. "PRESBYTERIAN" could use a little tweaking (e-s-b; b-y-t-e)
- PonyBoy0
Say a prayer and let it work itself out, dude. :)
- kelpie0
I think it may be tougher to kern for the reasons of the curves contradicting the alignment of the T and P but I like it stacked, I think it makes a better overall shape.
Have you tried bringing the O and C in to the right a little, it might optically help the eye line up the left hand side?
- doesnotexist0
twin oaks in one line, and pres church in one line as well