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- BonSeff3
Day 6 - Entire State Department senior management staff quits and Mexico cancels White House trip over Trump's wall executive order.
- http://thehill.com/p…BonSeff
- I read that earlier today. Thats a huge loss.hobgoblin
- the head of the border patrol agency has also left (resigned or fired??) http://time.com/4650…lowimpakt
- Wait, is this the same State Department Hillary ran that "lost" 6 billion in Gov contracts and failed to send in support for Benghazi?robotron3k
- Wait, is Mark Morgan, the now ex-head border patrol chief, the same one who's been on the job 5 whole months??robotron3k
- There it is... "Benghazi"... who had Benghazi in the "But, but, but what about?..." pool? I had "Bill Clinton" and "Emails". Who had "Benghazi"?hobgoblin
- No wait. I had "Pizzagate" and "Clinton Charity Satan Worship Murders" in my pool.hobgoblin
- It's incorrect o say the state dept "lost" 6 billion but whatever, nothing is factual with trump and his fans - http://www.snopes.co…lowimpakt
- They "lost" the money due to incomplete paperwork. The money is still somewhere, the SD just doesn't know where... maybe it went missing with the Hillary emailsrobotron3k
- REAL CHANGE********
- This happens at the end of every presidency, but outrage is trendy so...IRNlun6
- "outrage is trendy" -IRNIun6robotron3k
- ********0
Betting begins at Trump lasting 6 months before impeachment...
- I'll take that bet.monospaced
- I'll put a 20 spot on that one!capn_ron
- Is there a parlay for an assassination?stoplying
- I'll take the over unfortunately. It's a pipe dream to think he won't last 6 months. Worse, we'd get Stone-Age-Thinking-P... in his place.hobgoblin
- Stone-Age-Thinkin-Pe...hobgoblin
- DAMN YOU QBN
PENCEhobgoblin - What are the odds on heart attack or massive stroke?face_melter
- But wait, his physician said he was in robust health and in the best shape of anyone. Ever.face_melter
- Bluejam2
- Someone start a kickstarter campaign to get 'em a real clock
pleaseBluejam - I wonder if that's because of the Uranium deal to Iran that Obama approved, or ISIS Obama created, or North Korea going developing WMDs under Obama's watch??robotron3k
- pff, that clock's made of paper.Gnash
- ^^ yep********
- They cited U.S. President Donald Trump — and talk about more nuclear weapons. Try reading before opening your mouth to spew the same rhetoric robo.hobgoblin
- doomsday clock is inclusive of more than nukes nowdigitdaily
- Yes, but reading the article it clearly says "Donald Trump, made disturbing comments about the use and proliferation of nuclear weapons and expressed disbeliefhobgoblin
- in the overwhelming scientific consensus on climate change." Furthermore, "even though he has just now taken office, the president's intemperate statements,hobgoblin
- lack of openness to expert advice, and questionable cabinet nominations have already made a bad international security situation worse."hobgoblin
- Closer than the Cuban missile crisis?OP31
- Someone start a kickstarter campaign to get 'em a real clock
- hobgoblin1
Good lord. What a narcissistic pig.
--------------------------------...In his first major TV interview as president, Trump is endlessly obsessed with his popularity
- He needs to learn from Obama and refer to his greatness more in preachy speeches http://www.thepoliti…robotron3k
- Obama didn't refer to his greatness in speeches. It would be nice if Trump was even remotely as eloquent as Obama though.monospaced
- I agree, he has loose lips and get's caught up in details. Def a far cry from super slick Obama.robotron3k
- if: getting caught up in details = spouting alternative factsmonospaced
- Obama was tight as a mother fucker. It was almost impossible not to like him. Yet if you look what he did, what he allowed, he was a disgrace to humanity.********
- He was a genius move, after Bush. Cool as a cucumber. So many promises. Yet he carried on bushes work...********
- We just had 8 years of a average, wishy-washy Pres. We now need a Pres who cares about everything. I'm glad he's listening to the people, his popularity showsrobotron3k
- pure strategy. his entire success is based on being positive. no negative; all positive. it works, look at him.********
- It sounds like you're still on the team that thinks Trump won't carry on the same agenda. All signs pointing toward him doing just that, just sayin'monospaced
- I dont think Obama would have been "wishy washy" if he didn't have Republicans blocking his every move.err
- Mono is right. There was a glimmer of hope that he might not, but looks like that isn't the case sadly.********
- glimmer of hope = believing in 'drain the swamp'
how naive.hobgoblin - Troll********
- Heil Helmetutopian
- _niko2
Does anyone here actually like trump or think he's fit mentally or worth defending? Put aside your undying devotion to your political party and your hate for the other side and answer honestly.
Without comparing him to Obama or saying how fucked up liberals are (which they are, sure) or anything else.
Trump the man and now Trump the President and leader of the free world.
- dude, you know there are people here who domonospaced
- I don't take the presidency that seriously. there are executive orders they can pull, supreme court nominations, but there are still checks and balances.********
- I think the bigger problem is the fact that very few people come out to vote for their senators and governors. Trump + Republican controlled House and Senate********
- it's a perfect triumvirate for the Republicans this go-round. meh, cyclical. what can you do??????********
- The free world doesn't ban refugees, advocate torture, limit women's rights or access to healthcare, gag scientists, target immigrants with vindictive laws etclowimpakt
- yes, very much so.IRNlun6
- Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain ban refugees. Not to mention very limited women's rights, torture, press, etc, in middle east...robotron3k
- yeah just seems like he's a lone wolf of sorts, not liked or trusted by the people, his party his business associates or even his family for that matter._niko
- I think you have to hope that Trump does well (for all our sakes) and stays alive. I think Pence is a far more right-wing cat.********
- Pence is Voldemortmonospaced
- @lowimpakt +10000ptserr
- my god is robo an idiot
well said lowimpakthobgoblin - Try protecting refugee rights in their home countries. Limit terrorism. Killing babies is your choice. Build better healthcare and environments for all.********
- Pence might just be Voldemort!********
- He's sleazier, better looking, more religious and outright scarier than Trump.monospaced
- i_monk7
Don't you guys have all those guns because your Constitution says you need to them protect against tyranny? Get on with it then.
- lolGnash
- you can try, but you better have a cyanide pill instead of chew.********
- hahamoldero
- :)********
- LOL!hobgoblin
- hahahawhatthefunk
- allthethings2
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/…
Trump’s Chief Strategist Says News Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’
WASHINGTON — Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s chief White House strategist, laced into the American press during an interview on Wednesday evening, arguing that news organizations had been “humiliated” by an election outcome few anticipated, and repeatedly describing the media as “the opposition party” of the current administration.
“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,” Mr. Bannon said during a telephone call.
“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”
The scathing assessment — delivered by one of Mr. Trump’s most trusted and influential advisers, in the first days of his presidency — comes at a moment of high tension between the news media and the administration, with skirmishes over the size of Mr. Trump’s inaugural crowd and the president’s false claims that millions of illegal votes by undocumented immigrants swayed the popular vote against him.
Mr. Bannon, who rarely grants interviews to journalists outside of Breitbart News, the provocative right-wing website he ran until last August, was echoing comments by Mr. Trump this weekend, when the president said he was in “a running war” with the media and called journalists “among the most dishonest people on earth.”
During a call to discuss Sean M. Spicer, the president’s press secretary, Mr. Bannon ratcheted up the criticism, offering a broad indictment of the news media as biased against Mr. Trump and out of touch with the American public. That’s an argument familiar to readers of Breitbart and followers of Trump-friendly personalities like Sean Hannity.
“The elite media got it dead wrong, 100 percent dead wrong,” Mr. Bannon said of the election, calling it “a humiliating defeat that they will never wash away, that will always be there.”
“The mainstream media has not fired or terminated anyone associated with following our campaign,” Mr. Bannon said. “Look at the Twitter feeds of those people: they were outright activists of the Clinton campaign.” (He did not name specific reporters or editors.)
“That’s why you have no power,” Mr. Bannon added. “You were humiliated.”
Of all of Mr. Trump’s advisers in the White House, Mr. Bannon is the one tasked with implementing the nationalist vision that Mr. Trump channeled during the later months of the campaign, one that stemmed from Mr. Bannon himself. And in many ways Mr. Trump’s first week has put into action that vision — from the description of “American Carnage’’ Mr. Trump laid out in his inauguration speech, to a series of executive actions outlining policy on trade agreements, immigration, the building of a border wall and the demands that Mexico pay for it.
He is one of the strongest forces in a White House with competing power centers. A savvy manipulator of the press, and a proud provocateur, Mr. Bannon was among the few advisers in Mr. Trump’s circle who was said to have urged on Mr. Spicer’s confrontational, emotional statement to a shocked White House briefing room on Saturday, when the White House disputed press reports on the inauguration crowd size. He mostly shares Mr. Trump’s view that the news media has misunderstood the movement that the president rode into office.
On the telephone, Mr. Bannon spoke in blunt but calm tones, peppered with a dose of profanities, and humorously referred to himself at one point as “Darth Vader.” He said, with ironic relish, that Mr. Trump was elected by a surge of support from “the working class hobbits and deplorables.”
The conversation was initiated by Mr. Bannon to offer praise for Mr. Spicer, who has been criticized this week for making false claims at the White House podium about the attendance of Mr. Trump’s inaugural crowd; for calling reporters dishonest and lecturing them about what stories to write; and for failing to disavow Mr. Trump’s lie about widespread voter fraud in the election.
Asked if he was concerned that Mr. Spicer had lost credibility with the press, Mr. Bannon chortled. “Are you kidding me?” he said. “We think that’s a badge of honor. ‘Questioning his integrity’ — are you kidding me? The media has zero integrity, zero intelligence, and no hard work.”
“You’re the opposition party,” Mr. Bannon said. “Not the Democratic Party. You’re the opposition party. The media’s the opposition party.”
While Mr. Bannon mostly referred to the “elite” or “mainstream” media, he cited The New York Times and The Washington Post by name.
“The paper of record for our beloved republic, The New York Times, should be absolutely ashamed and humiliated,” Mr. Bannon said. “They got it 100 percent wrong.”
He added that he has been a reader of The Times for most of his adult life.
- If the main stream media has no power, why is he so upset?bulletfactory
- what's the new american standard, Trump approved Newspaper? New York Post? National Enquirer?_niko
- Because he's a fucking right-wing idiot? Because he helped run a shit-fest like Brietbart, of all things?mg33
- His assertion that because the media got this wrong somehow invalidates them from discussing the here-and-the-now is completely audacious.mg33
- or else what?monospaced
- What was media supposed to do, lie about the crowd size and illegals voting?yuekit
- Obama spent $80 million on his inauguration. It's not the media's fault for not knowing this or reporting illegals are closer to 30 million and not 11 million.********
- Obama spent $80 million MORE on his inauguration. Not the media's fault for not knowing this or reporting illegals are closer to 30 million and not 11 million.********
- If Obama was to be sworn in at the inauguration, how could he spend 80 million on it? I believe you to be a fucking moron.hobgoblin
- Obama's 09 inauguration COST "x" amount due, in part, to the historic attendance. Trump's inauguration COST far less because less people showed up.hobgoblin
- 3 times more money was spent on getting people to go to Obama's inauguration than Trump. Most spent than any other since Reagan.********
- It's Washington's expenses for the inauguration... not what Obama spent to throw a party. You're no better than Trump, citing opinion as factual numbers.hobgoblin
- You seem kinda smart. But not so much arguing over little details that can't fit in one note.********
- Ok. To help I'll just respond to your posts with "Alternative Facts" from here on out.hobgoblin
- haha. ok whatevs********
- lol, omg, are you implying Obama spent $80 million? derpmonospaced
- lol********
- No mono, omg is saying Obama spent $80 million MORE. Ultra derp.hobgoblin
- Obama's birthday party did cost 3 times more. Stop clowning around hobgoblin.********
- @omg "but Obama, but Hillary, but Obama..."fadein11
- yuekit1
- Outdated. Total Approval is now at 59%
http://www.rasmussen…******** - Actually, I think his approval is going to increase. Dow over 20,000, etc.
http://bit.ly/2jRIk9… Hillary who?******** - "Alternative Facts"hobgoblin
- Well they can't both be right. Rasmussen has a long history of skewing their results in favor of Republicans so I wouldn't trust them.yuekit
- Or Washington Times for that matter, run by a cult leader lolyuekit
- The fact is Trump came into office with a minority of the vote and it's been a disaster since then. And no Obama or Hillary to blame things on anymore.yuekit
- actually, he's inheriting a pretty decent economy and will gladly take credit for it. I'll give that to Obama********
- Not everyone can win popularity votes with illegals.********
- Right the millions of illegal voters Trump made up, otherwise he would have won by 59%. You guys are living in an alt reality.yuekit
- I know, everyone deserves a trophy. Including the losers of an election. How well is that turning out for ya?********
- The whole country loses with Trump as president, it's like a bad joke.yuekit
- lol... luckily for us, you don't speak for the whole country because there are lots of people currently winning.********
- Is that like a Charlie Sheen kind of winning?
The only winners are going to be late night comedians who will have endless material to work from.yuekit - no seriously ... who's winning?monospaced
- I'm not HIV positive.********
- I hope he comes out winning.********
- thanks yuekit for bringing everyone down to your level.********
- how he is winning tho?inteliboy
- Charlie Sheen got AIDS :(********
- Outdated. Total Approval is now at 59%
- robotron3k-4
Nice, Theresa May is sucking up the Trump now... "Together we can build it!"
- hobgoblin7
The only upside of Trump Presidency - has anyone heard from the Kardashians in the last week?
- all the laughs are great toomoldero
- Trump is the new Karthrashianutopian
- Not heard anything. They don't reply to my textsFax_Benson
- PonyBoy2
when we hit 2 mins will we change the Star Spangled Banner to some Iron Maiden?
- sted4
and now to something what's actually important:
- What is that, Russian?hobgoblin
- No it's in Passwordiansted
- Uhhhmonospaced
- oh man, that's gold. I wonder what aqenbquu is an acronym forGnash
- maybe a cat walked across his keyboardscarabin
- http://www.snopes.co…scarabin
- i think it belongs to his pornhub account,
hard to believe that the first one is pocketexting :)sted - Maybe the trauma of having to publicly defend Trump drove him over the edgeyuekit
- #GoTeamTrumputopian
- Passcide to the nukes...BusterBoy
- ********2
Odd that trump and brexit happened and yet I haven't met a single supporter of either. There appear to be slim to none on this website and apparently not a single one in my twitter feed of over nearly three thousand people... In fact not just that but everyone seems to overtly opposed to be both...
- Opposed to both *********
- Phone typing really does nothing at all to help maintain my illusion of eloquence********
- you probably have but they'd rather not voice their opinion since it's now acceptable to attack and label those we disagree withIRNlun6
- Fair point. I voiced my suggested benefits to brexit to people's utter horror and ignorant judgement. Bless them.********
- not saying you attack anyone, just that it's an obviously popular sentimentIRNlun6
- I get you. I also suggested Trump might not be a bad thing, but it looks like he's just fitting right in line with the programme, sadly. Though not surprisingly********
- You're just highly disagreeableFax_Benson
- :)Fax_Benson
- you need to get out more into the real worldlowimpakt
- I tend to believe the narrative the mainstream media have everyone agreeing on is usually the one to disagree with, yes...********
- Yeah, I noticed thatFax_Benson
- lol at the real world. I assume you think you exist in that? Bless you.********
- Anyway, regardless of the outcome of trump and brexit, they both represented a change in the consciousness of the people, a break from the establishment..********
- ... Which is a good sign for the future, no doubt.********
- The answer to the original point is that you're further down the rabbit hole / on a higher plane of wokedness than your Facebook peers.Fax_Benson
- You know thatFax_Benson
- Why does someone having different opinions to yours make you so uncomfortable you have to ridicule them? It's a sign of insecurity, you know.********
- I've noticed your ridicule consistently in this thread fax_benson, bless your little cotton socks.********
- Not ridiculing, or disagreeing necessarily. You know why your social group doesn't agree with you but asked anyway.Fax_Benson
- where is georges with all of this?utopian
- every time georges posts here I can never tell if he's being deadly serious or just having fun.inteliboy
- Who said anything about them disagreeing with me...? You assume my position because of your black and white thinking.********
- I've simply mentioned the positives and negatives.********
- Opposed to both *
- lowimpakt5
'It is now illegal to ejaculate, unless it's for reproduction'
- utopian4
Thanks Don the Con!
- monospaced1
I can't believe this guy is talking about taxing companies 20% for goods imported from Mexico, as if congress would ever sign that kind of absolute horse shit. On top of that Mexico is so offended that Trump is still talking about his horse shit wall and making Mexico pay for it that he is refusing to keep his meeting with the man. What a fucking embarrassment.
- Yeah I mean it's painfully obvious at this point that there's no long term strategy behind any of this. It's just Trump coming up with random ideas based onyuekit
- what he saw on TV or who pissed him off today. Why would it be in U.S. interest to "punish" Mexico or damage Mexico's economy?yuekit
- the guy is a wing nut. still illegal as long as Nafta's still in placeGnash
- That will only create worse conditions, leading to people trying to flee to the U.S. in greater numbers. And hurt the U.S. since they are our third biggestyuekit
- trading partner. He has also made it basically impossible for the Mexican president (or any future president) to agree to any deal by acting so childish.yuekit
- What's also offensive is tossing your citizens over the border into the US doesn't sound like the President of Mexico cares about his people at the same time.********
- ^ don't feed the troll. earlier he mentioned that remittances would also be blocked. what this will do is drive up the use of anonymous currencies and drive bidorf
- bitcoin price up. interesting.dorf
- If Mexico didn't have shit corrupt leaders then tens of millions of its citizens wouldn't be living in the US illegally.IRNlun6
- Mexico is not in any economic or moral position to be dictating any terms.IRNlun6
- @IRN - Ah so you are saying punish the citizens for their corrupt leaders? Because they will be the ones who pay - not the corrupt leaders. May want to checkfadein11
- your "tens of millions" alt fact also.fadein11
- There's a conservative estimate of 12 million illegals in the US and maybe even as high as 20+ million.IRNlun6
- Providing housing, healthcare, employment and freedoms greater than their own country can hardly be considered making their citizens pay.IRNlun6
- This is a big fuck you from Mexico to its own citizens and the US. Why even bother governing well enough to provide for the welfare and future of their own?IRNlun6
- // but lets not offend Mexico's leadersIRNlun6
- A tax like this is paid on the way in...by the importer. So this will never work.BusterBoy
- Mexico is in a weak bargaining position, its on them to start making some concessions.IRNlun6
- lol - may want to do some more research on those figuresfadein11
- 10's of millions does not equal 12 million and thats a total for all illegal immigrants - you said it yourself. but alt facts are the order of the day :)fadein11
- providing healthcare? - worry not - that will be gone v.soon.fadein11
- Most people don't like to pay taxes. Companies go to where they can make better profits. America is going to look much sweeter to have a factory than Mexico.********
- some estimates calculate 20+, but go ahead and play semantics with 12 million which is close to 10% of Mexico's population. again, illegally.IRNlun6
- 20% Wall tax + 15% corporate discount means keeping and building jobs in America.********
- Although I think the reality is that there are actually 30+ Million illegals in America. There's almost as many Mexicans in the US, than there are in Mexico.********
- lolfadein11
