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- fadein113
"The slim Senate majority that has proven to be almost unworkable over the past year will get that much tougher. Democrats now will have one less vote that they need to pick off to block President Trump's extremist agenda, while they are that much closer to flipping control of the chamber next November.
This special election suggests that Republicans are realistically facing the possibility of losing control of Congress. For the President, Democrats controlling Capitol Hill and able to launch investigations of the administration and to block any Trump initiatives would be a nightmare."
- context and point? we have seen partisan hardly plays a role with a trump as done deal. this opinion assumes one less will shift partisan paradigm. this oped********
- i am curious what makes you think this quote is important.or significant. i have a hard time seeing any real substance in it.********
- why for dialogue instead of randomly picking copy pasta its important to form an arguement and use external info as support as it fits********
- basic grade level communication. unless you are simply filling a void with poo. are you filling a void with poo?********
- lyou don't see it is significant that a long term red state has been lost to the dems?
and that the pedo Trump endorsed crashed and burned. It's allfadein11 - v.significant to the future of the president. Likely an indicator of how the midterms will go.fadein11
- I am struggling to see something that isn't significant in the quote, is that what you meant?fadein11
- really it seems to me you are filling a void with poo. Funny you bust OMG balls for filling voids but you seem to be no better.********
- no i dont see any significance. if u assume rep control than trump would be getting anything and yet hes having a hard tiem with the establisment********
- lol, whatever. sorry your guy lost fella.fadein11
- which is a whole different issue in itself. democrats launching investigations is null. already they are doign whatever they can with media. i find this opinion********
- simply posturing PR but lacking any substance********
- my guy lost...you clearly dont know where im coming from even though i explicitly state i dont like moore********
- this is my problem. you dont comprehend. and im not sure how to make you understand better.********
- that's good then, not seeing the significance of this defeat seems a little daft though. it's massively significant.fadein11
- I struggle to comprehend someone who uses puts gay and pedo in the same argument or someone who thinks Obama is a socialist. Sorry, that doesn't compute nopefadein11
- or maybe the significance you see is simply team based. easy peazy to judge. i can see how you see that is relevant even though its not********
- fade seriously read the book. everything i was talking about was based on the post. you need to be knowledgable of the post********
- without knowledge of the post and commenting on it is a douche hating the taste of mt dew but never tasted. you do understand your failing there right********
- and this quote is noise. absolute pointless noise. and opinion. its equivalent to me saying wow its hot out today********
- Strange that you nitpick such a simple quote. All it's saying is that every seat in the Senate matters a great deal.yuekit
- Thanks for the tipsfadein11
- strange that you dont. this is a benn type statement being used as agenda. absolutely without point********
- Obamacare repeal failed by a single vote. Tax cuts passed by only two votes and still need to pass final version.yuekit
- is it probable a senate seat may adjust things... yes. in what way? we have absolutely no idea and the quote gives no reason in a direction********
- again its warm out today********
- Judicial nominations often come down to a single vote margin, etc...yuekit
- yuekit all that shows is most elected officials are un prinicpled and focused on reelection and careers. again if u believe the R or D by the name you are********
- stupid. its about real policy, real principles. people focus on the team play and miss the bigger picture. a rep majority and cant repeal obamacare...********
- is because they never cared abotu policy if it doesnt effect them. they just collecting a paycheck********
- I mean you can complain about it but that's a different issue. The reality is you have these two sides, and a very small margin of error, making the loss of oneyuekit
- seat potentially a big deal.yuekit
- and i have a hard time taking supreme court serious after roberts basically said we bend to democracy vs rule of law, and u can vote to fix your shit.********
- but lets look at the signifance of the quote and wether its equivalent to hey its warm out today********
- which is a huge issue i have with people being to identify important information from noise********
- a populace who cant tell news from real news how can we expect a republic to last********
- Actually your comments show a lot more ignorance than the quote does.yuekit
- "if u assume rep control than trump would be getting anything and yet hes having a hard tiem with the establisment"yuekit
- again yuekit you can see it as a "potential" big issue. Like wow this weather might be too hot for crops. But there is no direct evidence. which leads to why********
- It's not the establishment so much as a party that has conservative and moderate wings. Which makes it difficult to agree on things.yuekit
- "is it probable a senate seat may adjust things... yes. in what way? we have absolutely no idea and the quote gives no reason in a direction"yuekit
- Er...we do know which direction. Republicans lost a conservative seat and Democrats gained one.yuekit
- lead. the whole purpose is to try and garner a loss of faith in a party and show superiority in another party.********
- its poor PR being pushed on idiots. No better better than the shit rush might sell or push. the whole point in advertising is being privy to the sell********
- in a slow newsday push and shape whatever you can. a rational alternative might be more beneficial is to push dougs viewpoints********
- you suggest a party leans one way ukit. the whole republin party rebeled against obamacare and won control yet they wont repeal. politicans are not moved by********
- by ideology but by wether they have a job and can pay for their sexual exploits. i think one senate seat will not change the nature of man. that this senator********
- will be moved by his gains and not ideology********
- i admit i know nothing of the man, just the character of the majority of senators ive seen. and i think my opinion based on history********
- is far more objective. and all the while opinion it is grounded far more than a quote out of context which simply is fodder for PR copy pasta of the ignorant********
- but still we are trying to give substance to a quote that had none. ukit if it was longer and wrote about how this could change with reasonable reasons why base********
- d on the guys politics and how his view or record might sway to one direction or another than that would be real substance********
- a point and reason for communication. but as is its just noise, and you are trying to justify it with your added dialogue********
- I'm so tempted to post a link to the whole piece but you would call it fake news. That's why I didn't originally.fadein11
- So from your point of view it doesn't matter how many seats each party controls? Hopefully you can see how silly that sounds.yuekit
- ex. a giant loss to the religious douche who has a history of voting for a or b but new guy has history of voting for C and likely shift X because of C********
- u see the difference in pointless vs point right? news vs copy pasta********
- no i dont care about seats only about how ones votes of course. are you daft.********
- idiots believe labels. i believe actions********
- I think the assumption here is that any Republican from Alabama would have been a reliable conservative vote.yuekit
- post the whole link but do with your reason why its important fade. ill call it fake news if it fits the criteria. so far the quote is pointless by itself********
- i dont get your assumption ukit... again im non partisan. i dont equate any values with a party. their is no party of value********
- or as tocque said “There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.”********
- I can agree with that quotefadein11
- lol context??? the context is the entire Alabama senate race that concluded last night. If you missed the news the last few weeks that's on you.monospaced
- Significant because despite having support from the president and evangelical racists, a pedophile right wing nut lost to a dem.monospaced
- That's a big deal since I'm 25 years they've always voted conservative republican.monospaced
- Mic dropfadein11
- i came back for the link fade. mono a terrible candidate lost to a "democrat" context being who is this guy. his view. his policy********
- i dont know what he stands for and my guess is neither do you, but what you value is the team dynamic, i value policy. why id liek to see more of the article********
- if there is more substance to substantiate the quote on the guys policy which will make it harder against the aligned GOPs views and what not.********
- what I know or value has absolutely nothing to do with it ... I'm talking about reality, not these assumptions and musings you're on aboutmonospaced
- Moore's views about civil rights and other conservative hotbed topics are a major issue for people, and were enough to give him the loss.monospaced
- Moore's policy is too bible-based, which is an issue. This is significant, as the majority of Alabama voters didn't align with that for the first time in yearsmonospaced
- It would take you all of about 5 minutes to look up Jones and read his policy, like any sane person, before making the kinds of demands you aremonospaced
- haha my demands. asking for a senators views that might drastically change congress. u didnt chime in. probably because you dont know.********
- you seem to know why moore lost. which media likes to tell. but what they dont tell is who the victor is. did you vote against a loser without knowing who********
- your winner will be. it is perverse to think your vote is not for you you want but who you dont. moore politics are terrible ill give you that, but more credit********
- media to point them out. And i can try to look up dougies views, but such a stronger supporter lie you i thoguth u'd know and thats why i asked. why i asked for********
- link to see if there is any rational merit to the claims in the quote. what i see with him is principle less mirror of any popular opinion that gets him a paych********
- eck. is it better for a particular team who knows, depends on popularity in the moment from my view. you see how context is important right?********
- and u lost me on what u know or value has 0 to do with it when talking about reality.... that is nutter talk********
- if you see it fade just bump the source. id lirk to see where you are coming from on such things********
- or wait google... oh hey its cnn http://www.cnn.com/2…********
- and instead of a piece about the winner its focused on doom and gloom with no objective reasoning towards trump and gop... partisan biased prop********
- i see why you would think its fake news... but really its just an opinion piece by a political analyst at news agency that has NO reason for slander********
- like bill oreilly had NO reason to sling mud at any D upset...********
- can i pick up the mic and re drop it?********
- you can't, because you don't deserve to, since you're arguing at this point without any logic or comprehensionmonospaced
- u can say it but there is no evidence of such a thing. reality is a funny thing in testing fantasy like that********
- the article is defined as opinion. the whole base of me calling this out as not news is in fact an opinion piece. no logic. your cute as a parrot********
- context and point? we have seen partisan hardly plays a role with a trump as done deal. this opinion assumes one less will shift partisan paradigm. this oped
- monoboy4
- Skip to 8:55. Hilarious.monoboy
- Clever lot aren't theyfadein11
- I never considered myself particularly bright but this lot and our home grown wing-nuts make me feel like a intellectual colossus.monoboy
- Or a Snowflake Libtard to use the vernacular.monoboy
- Ha same :)fadein11
- There you have it. These assholes want to persecute homosexuals. They want to integrate religion into government. Straight up unconstitutional.monospaced
- lmao got eemCygnusZero4
- sofakingback2
^^^ Here's the money shot.
Dude, this fucking country. Really????
- Bluejam3
- looks like he’s done plenty of suckingGuyFawkes
- fuck man alcohol will fuck you up bad if you drink that shit all the time. you can always tell a long time drunk at first sightCygnusZero4
- The fuck is that??? Seriously, this is booze? Damn, I quit. Not another drop.sofakingback
- yeah, with a photoshop chasermonospaced
- ********4
omg
irn
robo
deathboy
georgesso much winning...
- i miss georges...********
- Thoughts and prayers.monoboy
- georges isn’t in the pedo clubGuyFawkes
- No, he's just in the sustained trolling club. I don't miss him.Continuity
- Lolfadein11
- The pedobros are quiet.
Desperately googling Hillary memes.
#butendorsedpedofadein11 - lol pedobrosGuyFawkes
- They call themselves centipedes or pedes for shortyuekit
- They, along with the other brainfarts in various slimy corners of the internet, are trying to put a brave face on it. Bless.face_melter
- lolz @ pedobrosRamanisky2
- LOL!
'pedobros' is QBN's Word of the Day 2017.Continuity - You guys have been waiting to celebrate for something for well over a year, so you guys should enjoy...robotron3k
- that's one more thing than trumptards have to celebrate this yearmonospaced
- #pedobros LOLZrenderedred
- IRN is one of the most intelligent, rational, logical, well educated members on this forum as far as I can tell. Georges wasn't far behind...********
- Why anyone would lump them in the group with the local dribblers is beyond me********
- i was not implying that georges is in the pedogate affair...just a Trump "supporter". which I see as unfair from me to menttion him together with the pedobros********
- i shared them same view as you about IRN till recently. and it's still true apart from politics but that's my perspective and opinion.********
- it's nice of you to write it set and I don't mean it in a sarcastic way.********
- I haven't seen anything of IRN lately so I have no idea what you're talking about. Georges wasn't a Trump supporter...********
- A lot of people here take anything other than sheer unadulterated hate for Trump as complete support. I've had it directed at me too. Idiots, frankly.********
- Yep totally, Georges wasn't one of them. I was referring to some others on here with my comment, you know the ones who automatically assume because you dislikefadein11
- Trump you must love Hillary, those idiots. And my pedobros comment was done in jest, I know (hope) they are not as such. Probably a little unfair though.fadein11
- btw- oey is an accused sexual harasser. just want to put that next to his pee jar.********
- assigning someone your own petname of 'pedo'whatever shows what sick fucks some of you are simply out of political disagreement...PonyBoy
- as both fade and set have shown (from diff spectrums)... being pigeonholed as a 'supporter' of whatever because you disagree about a certain point..PonyBoy
- ... is fucked up (and disgusting if you go so far as to pin someone racist, sexist or a fucking PEDOFILE for that matter). This forum requires a thick skinPonyBoy
- BUT!! I'm grateful that folks like fade11 exist... he and I may not see eye to eye but the dude has never turned disagreement into foul insults <3PonyBoy
- <3 fadein11 is a crosseyed pansy face.********
- no totally pony. you have always seemed v.reasonable to me. Clearly noone on here is actually calling anyone a pedo. Just that some of them support(ed) one.fadein11
- But it was unfair as I said in my other comment.fadein11
- actually fuck em for backing such a vile racist abusing moron :)fadein11
- hehe :)PonyBoy
- I also don't mean much, even when I call you a fucking retard, backwards thinking piece of morally devoid shit. I actually like you all.monospaced
- i miss georges...
- monospaced2
"If last night’s election proved anything, it proved that we need to put up GREAT Republican candidates to increase the razor thin margins in both the House and Senate."
—Trump, on Twitter just nowYeah, good idea. Maybe shouldn't have endorsed a pedophile, then.
- Where's our #PedoBros at?moldero
- Burning the man he endorsed to escape blame. Classy move.monoboy
- lol... this guy.fadein11
- Wow, what an epiphany to have after backing a racist, homophobic, pedophile.mathinc
- Im surprised people are still surprised he has no shame or dignity.sofakingback
- Ramanisky24
from twitter ....
Roy Moore's horse Sassy breaks her silence
- whatthefunk2
Moore refused to concede last night, which is fair, but I'd like to think that this vote also goes against his combination of religious views and the law. To hang the 10 commandments on the court wall and then build a 2 ton 10 commandments monument and put them in the courthouse. No Roy, not this time...the voters are in control, not your imaginary friend...
"But we also know that God is always in control. You know, part of the thing — part of the problem with this campaign is we’ve been painted in an unfavorable and unfaithful light. We’ve been put in a hole, if you will. And it reminds me of a passage in Psalms 40. I waited patiently for the Lord. That’s what we’ve got to do. And he inclined it to me, heard my cry, brought us out of a horrible pit out of clay and set my feet on the rock and established my goings and put a new song in our mouth. A hymn praising to our God. Many shall see it and hear it and shall be moved by that, if you will."
That’s what we’ve got to do is wait on God and let this process play out. I know it’s late. We can’t wait and have everybody wait until after 11:00. But the votes are still coming in and we’re looking at that. May God bless you as you go on, give you safe journey and thank you for coming tonight."
- Pretty sure God would decline getting into politics. Pretty hopeful Moore's mentality represents that of a dying breed of Americans.mg33
- Moore doesnt need to concede, he lost the election; decision has been made.plash
- What time does the mall open?
#thoughtsandprayers
#toosoonsofakingback
- plash5
in regards to DNC reform:
- She is great. She was the guest on chapo trap house this week: https://soundcloud.c…R_Kercz
- TYT Nation!moldero
- mg331
I took a look at www.foxnews.com to see how they were handling the stunning defeat:
Moore focused content in red
Jones focused content in blue
- I couldn't even do a full page scan in Firefox of the entire site because it's never-ending.mg33
- Their Politics section is oddly incredibly far down the page, and that's where the very first larger photo of Moore and Jones appears.mg33
- Their lead story is "Fusion GPS admits DOJ official's wife Nellie Ohr hired to probe Trump"mg33
- ...As if nepotism and favor based hiring isn't a hallmark of Trump's administration. The hypocrisy is astounding.mg33
- they arent even hardly talking about it on their channel today. so butthurt.CygnusZero4
- a banner? no ad blocker when visiting foxnews?zaq
- I was in Firefox, which I only use for website work, coding, etc. and don't have any ad blocker stuff there.mg33
- bliznutty0
as an ancap i'm like "the government is a bad guy - it steals from people even murders and enslaves them. why do people think it's a good virtuous institution? in other words, why does it exist?".
the usual reply from a statist is "in a free world without government, some bad person or group of people might steal from, murder, or even enslave you."
and all i can think is, "this actually IS a free world and somehow you just agreed with me but you still don't see it"
- What political system do you think would be a good solution to the problem?Morning_star
- https://en.wikipedia…bliznutty
- sorry, my mistake, I thought that ancap was anti capitalist. I must refresh my knowledge of portmanteau words.Morning_star
- It's not a free world. For 99% of human history we were a bunch of peasants being exploited by a tiny elite, democracy is the only thing that's ever alleviatedzarkonite
- that reality since we developed agriculture.zarkonite
- nature is free - like fish, birds, insects. people live under mandatory, compulsive, coercive "way of life" which couldn't be considered natural by any means..bliznutty
- fact is we ARE nature and have been controlled over history. my conclusion is we're meant to be free and the world would be more beautiful if were sobliznutty
- thus, is why i hold a consistent philosophy of voluntary interactions and non-aggression principle in order for world to be more free, natural, and beautifulbliznutty
- I like the idea of voluntaryism but IMO the people supporting it tend to be very naive about the reality of power in the world.yuekit
- The truth is if you get rid of government tomorrow its not going to be smiley happy people holding hands...yuekit
- Just like with nature it would be the strong exploiting and taking advantage of the weak. Fish and birds might look free but if you observe longer you wouldyuekit
- realize they live a pretty brutal existence.yuekit
- You can't fight power with wishful thinking...so you could literally carry a gun around all the time or hire bodyguards.yuekit
- But that's very inefficient and a big waste of your time. Also no guarantee that someone with more guns and bodyguards won't come around.yuekit
- Alternately you could pool your resources together with other people and hire a collective security force. Maybe agree to certain rules in exchange for beingyuekit
- part of the community. All of sudden you have the freedom to do what you want instead of spending all your time defending yourself.yuekit
- But it also looks a lot like the beginning of a government ;) I'm not saying government is great as currently exists, but I do think it came about for a reason.yuekit
- https://www.youtube.…bliznutty
- instrmntl0
Democrats need to update their message and platform. Every race isn't gonna be against a pedo. And they barely scraped by on that one.
- Moore is much more than a pedi, and too many conservatives share his christian based views, which were what people really voted against.monospaced
- yes but in a state that hasn't elected a democrat in 25 years.fooler
- Jeff Sessions won by almost 30% last time, this is a major win for the Dems. That's a huge swing!zarkonite
- lowimpakt6
"#RoyMoore demands a recount but nope, she's still 14."
@HimymCraig
- plash5
- brilliantmugwart
- note how his name is written on a nameplate and not just on his clothes.sarahfailin
- ********0
Why does it have to be about race?
Does anyone else get a cringe when privileged white people thank "black" people?
- Yep, it's very bizarre.PhanLo
- they are showing that they are not ungrateful like LaVar Ball********
- yesmonospaced
- Birmingham voters showed up in droves, tipped the scales and kept Moore out. Birmingham is approx 75% black. If they didn't show up, Moore wins.garbage
- Proud of my hometown. Everyone went ham last night. I got drunk dials last night, and hungover texts this morning.garbage
- ********3
Roy Moore hasn't tweeted since polls closed.
- he's too busy being comforted by the 14yo girls roy moore has had locked in his basement since 1990.kona
- his life is basically over. he may never really tweet again.CygnusZero4
- no cell reception at the mall. naw mean?sofakingback
- utopian2
- http://www.nydailyne…mg33
- https://www.rawstory…mg33
- http://www.youtube.c…Ramanisky2
- Watch that second link of mine. LOL. This all seems so predictable.mg33
- WH Shitshowkona
- garbage5
Oh darn, I think I just timelined myself. Rats, my bad.
- ah...goodbye horses********
- That didn’t age so well.Continuity
- ah...goodbye horses
- ********0
- i watched this live on tv and was like o.m.f.g.
the way she says "jew" just sounds so bad.sarahfailin - and was she referring to the news people as jews? sure seemed that way.sarahfailin
- i watched this live on tv and was like o.m.f.g.
