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    • kevin sorbo, scott baio, what's the difference?jaylarson
    • he must be afraid of getting eatendorf
    • Hercules walks into a bar...
      Everyone says “fuck off”.
      BusterBoy
    • the joke is funny because its true
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    • the joke is stoopid coz the guy is stoopidneverscared
    • haha never now you are funny for being obviously irrational
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    • not really the same thing though, is it?ben_
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    • Would you pay more for free beer?shapesalad
    • hehePonyBoy
    • "Would you like to switch from paying a higher amount in private insurance to a lower amount in taxes for public insurance that covers everything?"yuekit
    • I'd like to pay more taxes so you can finally get that GED diploma.zaq
    • I’d contribute to a better educated working class and increasing the nations ranks in these areas. Naturally.monospaced
    • 'that covers everything' MY ASS... lol... nice try though, yuekit... enjoy your pain pillsPonyBoy
    • PonyBoy why do you think it's called SINGLE PAYER healthcare? Sure it might not cover plastic surgery, you might need to wait longer in some casesyuekit
    • but go ask people in countries that have universal coverage if they would like to switch for the insane U.S. system...almost none of them would.yuekit
    • no offense - I really don't give a fuck about other countries... we're 320+ Mill people... the countries you're referring to don't compare in size (or cost)PonyBoy
    • now if you're up for allowing States to do their own thing (Romney care)—I'm game. But on a whole our needs aren't the same... it'll get fucked up if it's Nat'lPonyBoy
    • And 'plastic surgery' isn't what I was referring to when I mentioned 'pain pills'. (you know this though) :)PonyBoy
    • I am looking forward, as a business owner, to paying much less when everyone is covered. I like investing in America's people.formed
    • For pharma and plastic surgery, I've got Wall Street (JNJ covers both of those)formed
    • So you don't think a country of 300 million can draw any lessons from a country of 80 or 100 million?yuekit
    • I guess we should cancel all national programs since someone forgot to tell the government it can't possibly work once you go past a certain number :)yuekit
    • Anyway my point was simply that it's not that hard to frame the question accurately. Your taxes would not be going up in isolation, you would be switching fromyuekit
    • paying private insurer to paying government insurer. Almost all countries that do this pay less.yuekit
    • yuekit: Don't worry, one day he might realize that Europe has more people and runs a single payer healthcare system. You guys are so fucked right now, youzarkonite
    • actually have a law in place that forbids Medicaid and Medicare from negotiating the price of supplies. Basically your healthcarezarkonite
    • "system" is a giant subsidy system for insurance and pharma companies.zarkonite
    • and this system will be fixed by injecting more money into. Same way individual mandates and more spending with obamacare helped...
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    • the idea of simply spending money solves nothing. in fact that kind of thinking is pretty fuckin retarded and out of touch with reality.
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    • @death Who mentioned the idea of simply spending money? You're attacking a straw man.T-Dawg
    • Also @Pony's notion that it can't be done in a country of 320+ mil is silly. A larger population in a wealthy nation, means more tax dollars to spend.T-Dawg
    • The argument is about moving money away from the current expensive system, which doesn't cover everyone, towards a different system.T-Dawg
    • Which would cover everyone. Even the Koch brothers's funded study showed the healthcare reform would save trillions of dollars.T-Dawg
    • And single payer isn't even the only option. There are other systems that aren't single payer that ensure universal coverage.T-Dawg
    • no strawman. its pure allocation of funds from A to B. That is the whole arguement as sold. basic? yes. generalized? yes. Do they think much about it besides
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    • angle to get elected? no. And Ponys comment is important when making generalized comparisons that idiots do.
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    • for example tdawg you admit its moving money from one system or from some people to another but you dont even define what that system or why it would work
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    • which is what i call pathetically hopeful thinking or chasing rainbows. fix the system by fixing the problems. go back you will see the main problem is the
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    • "fixes" gov made to make things more affordable. eliminate all incentives for any third party to be involved. let hospitals turn away, dont incentivize hospital
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    • to monopolize and buy up all practioners for more fed funds. so much can be done without tryign to spend more on broken systems
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    • if you think a new system needs more money to work you are a sucker.
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    • oh and that koch brothers thing being spun is garbage. focus is on money spent which means little when so much more to consider.
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    • but is interesting that people accept the idea 30 trillion in ten years is acceptable. do ppl have no idea of money or what that really equates to and how
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    • it really is. those numbers in relation to GDP... like WTF.. jsut ppl wanting shit without knowing anything about anything
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    • reminds me of goethe when mephistopheles convinces the king of making money. The MMT and ignorant masses jumping on it out of greedy self interest
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    • and free health care without a doubt is a greedy ass self interest. so much ppl even try to call it a right in justification in hopes to ease the guilt
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    • The US is the only highly developed country without universal healthcare. Does every other developed nation all have it wrong? Is it all greed& ignorant masses?T-Dawg
    • Zero of those countries have free market healthcare systems.T-Dawg
    • Is any system perfect? No. Would any of those countries willingly give up their universal coverage, also no.T-Dawg
    • The US is all historically young and its roots have been historical for many other countries. We are young and have suffered less entrophy
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    • As far as greed and ignorant masses. Yes. Have you ever seen a smart non-ignorant mass? Those masses are cancerous systems.
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    • No. no system is perfect but clearly there is a better way vs worse way, pending on values. I value freedom. Others value perceived security at any costs.
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    • Same thing the US fought against and $100 dolla balla made some nice quotes about. The problem is security means subjugation to fear. and subjugating ppl
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    • choice and freedoms, which is not friendly for those that don't share the same fear. And once that heroine state controlled drip gets installed the majority
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    • will never want it repealed. shit becomes a stagnate pond. holding back the minority that raised the whole. until the weight of the state collapses
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    • which historically is the case. the US has let the typical entrophy take place and is going the way of the other nations.
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    • might not seem like much but if you look at things like percentage of new pharma is US derived. We may see a much larger global stagnation as we slowly become
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    • gov socialized. hell trump is a perfect example of this failure in thinking gov can decide everything biz related
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    • hes pissed he doesnt have Xi power. and trying but its just a giant cluster fuck now. Xi probably better off than we are with mroe control but ppl worse off
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    It's best with English auto translate on...

  • Ramanisky24

    Jon Stewart 2020

    • USA has already had someone from the movies as president and currently someone from TV. What we need is a YouTuber.deadsperm
    • ^ lolGnash
    • Desperado...robotron3k
    • He would be a better president for sure.monospaced
    • My uncle would also be a better president in my opinion but I'm not proposing he run for president in the next election.deadsperm
    • And get the using a name for president as a way to cheer for that person. I've used Pango for President before. But I feel some actually think it's a good idea.deadsperm
    • a president's most important trait, at least in my opinion, living in the US, is the ability to unite.imbecile
    • You're thinking about royalty in a constitutional monarchy.deadsperm
    • No. Go fuck yourself.imbecile
    • A good soccer team also works every four years.
      #fifa
      deadsperm
    • Agonism, not antagonism.deadsperm
    • He would not only be a better president than trump, but also a good one in general. He would be able to unite.monospaced
    • I concede, the entertainment industry has given us nothing but the best.
      Joe Rogan 2020!
      deadsperm
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    Andrew Yang

    • nocolin_s
    • Yes. Watch the second video. He has good ideas for policies.
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    • That's by far the longest I have watched Ben Shapiro without wanting to punch the screen. Good conversation.wordssssss
    • Yes, ben seemed surprisingly reasonable and receptive.
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    • i like yangGnash
    • I agree, he's great, unfortunately americans would never vote him in._niko
    • he's currently running 7th :(
      https://www.rollings…
      _niko
  • whatthefunk4

    • LOL, as if trumpette jr ever designed a handbag in her life.zarkonite
    • There is definitely a difference in how Merkel has chosen to present herself for 14 years, she represents German guilt.robotron3k
    • Physical chemistry as apposed to physics chemistry?shapesalad
    • blonde bimbo in high political spheres..nuffin can go wrong..neverscared
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  • Beeswax8

    Erdoğan didn't like to lose Istanbul with 20.000 votes so he setup a re-election just to lose by 800.000 this time.

    • crazy, how does it swing by such a wide margin? was the voter fraud he was accusing the other party of actually from his own?_niko
    • Other parties pulled out their candidates their voters shifted completely against him + plus his own base got disappointed by the repeat and didn't voteBeeswax
    • oh, got it, didn't realise it was a re-election, thought it was a re-count_niko
    • let's hope this douchebag's reign is coming to endGnash
    • End? It's going to turn back into a dictatorship, he'll never accept losing an election.zarkonite
    • one can hope.Gnash
  • yuekit1

    What a War With Iran Would Look Like

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/a…

    "Even short of such worst-case scenarios, any war with Iran would tie down the United States in yet another Middle Eastern conflict for years to come. The war and its aftermath would likely cost hundreds of billions of dollars and hobble not just Trump but future U.S. presidents. Such a commitment would mean the end of the United States’ purported shift to great-power competition with Russia and China."

    However Americans themselves seem ready to pull the trigger, especially Republicans...

    • how does us adults come into play in these stats? was a large sample done at recess?link didn't have info about it
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    • even if they were responsible, you'll send your sons and daughters to die over shipping lanes and commerce? this is exactly what SA wants. idiots._niko
    • The Republitards sure do love their endless trillion dollar wars that they never seem to win.utopian
    • According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers...utopian
    • ...a total of $2.4 trillion by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money.utopian
    • https://en.wikipedia…utopian
    • #Winning
      #MAGA
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    • is this a party hit piece? even the link doesn't give reason that supports the graph. Its actually pretty non partisan. but you got utopian to wave a flag
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    • Here is the source of the poll:
      https://today.yougov…
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    • hmm i dont see the graph nor the base data. i dont even see why the "adult" is a category
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    • its interesting so little info about their polling but very vocal about extrapolating the data to half of the US
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    • do you not smell that?
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    • the site for the data also seemed suspect. quite interesting the backers. makes more sense for special interest than any journalism
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    • could this possibly be political drivel bait for suckers too push ukit? no harm if you fell into the trap. fuck we all make mistakes.
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    • haha it's a very standard poll from a well known polling company. You seem very defensive about the GOP and their voters, as if they are not well known foryuekit
    • being warmongers. The Iraq War would likely never have happened without overwhelming support from conservative voters. So yea, it's hardly a surprising result.yuekit
    • I believe the R's stance, but those numbers still seem insanely high. I don't know a single person that doesn't see what's happening now for what it is.formed
    • well you can project all you want but im really simply curious about the US adults bar. Its strange and makes me want to see the polling data.
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    • i hardly ever equate brands or names with any kind of merit. Value objectively. i didnt even know there was a popular statista thing. interesting
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    • so any data link to the polling data or info about the us adults bar?
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    • Geez...the source of data is already in the link I posted above. Stop complaining just because you can't be bothered to do the basic work of looking stuff up :)yuekit
    • dont be a dick ukit. the yougov link i dont see any poll info relating to the statista graph
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    • i even googled and tried to find the polling info on the graph but didnt have much success.
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    • and come one US adults! that measurement is still so weird
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    • It's literally at the bottom of the page I linked: https://d25d2506sfb9…yuekit
    • But why question the data? Are you a pollster or statistician? Or just don't like the results?yuekit
    • Why question the data? Like for this question there is actually far more data for this questions that paints a very different picture
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    • Why question the data? Like for this question there is actually far more data for this questions that paints a very different picture
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    • the us adult is not a dataset. maybe a designer fucked that up. or 18-29 not considered adults
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    • unfamilair with " A random sample (stratified by gender, age,
      race, education, and region) was selected from the 2014 American
      Community Study"
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    • we're in advertising we know how easy it is to manipulate data to show shit that isnt true. looking at the data is and methodology is very important
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    • i'd like to know more about demographic sampling. because 1500 is pretty small sample. Not sure i believe there small margins of error
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    • think sometimes that shit is made up liek brand guideline stuff. hell look at all the polling wrong in 2016 elections. if it was science
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    • why was it so wrong. russians?
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    • So because you know nothing about polling and can't be bothered to look it up it's questionable somehow? haha cmon...yuekit
    • In the time you took to write those comments you could have looked up what is an acceptable sample size for a poll...and found out that 1,500 is actuallyyuekit
    • larger than average.yuekit
    • Ha ukit dont try to spin it. I mean look up there reference to "2014 American
      Community Study" to understand more the data sampling. Region, city, and methods.
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    • a trick in statisitics is to layer sources, its attrition. But seriously look at page 40 for the question and see all the stuff they didnt graph.
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    • hell i'm lazy and yet still probably went farther than you did. i'll always hold polling questionable because of how its used. again remember recent polling in
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    • elections. or ways to shape data on a wordpress theme for 3 callouts that look great on a case study
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    • simply put the data omitted from the graph paints a much larger picture why would those datasets be chosen to be left off? What was the graphs bias point?
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    • Oh. Ha going back i see why i didn't see anything in the link. paywall.
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    • my only real interest was the graph data. and now i know its a graphic design fuck up looking at the data
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    • Hmmm yea there's really unusual about a poll that asks multiple questions and chooses to highlight one of them in a graph.yuekit
    • And you were wrong about the sample size thing too. And no, polling in general is not made up or fake. Anything else? ;)yuekit
    • I never said polling is fake. Its very unreliable and biased. But not sure what I got wrong about sample size? Didn;t know i mention it except for extrapolation
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    • You said 1500 is too small of a sample size, it's actually totally fine and higher than average. And no polling in general is not unreliable lol.yuekit
    • You were calling it a party hit piece, which seemed to suggest you see it as an attack against Republicans to make them look bad or something.yuekit
    • But other polls on the topic of war and foreign intervention have shown very similar results unfortunately. I wish it wasn't the case, but Americans seem veryyuekit
    • trigger happy when it comes to war and especially Republicans/ conservatives.yuekit
    • well i absolutely disagree about polling citing again 2016 elections as excellent source. as far as range 1500 for extrapolation is still far too small and
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    • margin of error i'd never agree. not that it isnt sufficient for data manipulation. and doesnt serve its own purposes
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    • if the data was fully presented from the case study than showed in the graph it would defintiely take on a different message than the graph
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    • do you disagree with that?
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    • you know i think what it is that bugs me is the confirmation bias of such polls with peoples identities and bias. You are right ukit looking at such data it
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    • seems everything is so much easier grouped into parties. yes reps want war and lefts want slavery. but these polls are part of the control and the message
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    • look at 2016 election night i laughed my ass off as what i said would happen happened and people whole reality was dissolved
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    • polls and confirmation bias or substitute herd mentality failed. The media fell on their own sword. but yes you are absolutely right in perceiving the graphs
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    • the way they seem. And without a doubt crafted for such purposes. I'm going off my gut. Maybe im not as smart as i think and i should focus group shit to reling
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    • uish all personal responsibility when forming opinions on demos. Big data will solve everything except mans bias in shaping it
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    • and again i went off topic original post was calling out the weird stat about us adult. it called into question they interviewed children.
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    • which than lead to broader assumptions and questions. Would you agree that the graph is misleading seeing the data only interviewed adults?
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    • I think you are going on and on about a topic you know nothing about. What's wrong with doing a little research before writing 100 comments?yuekit
    • a topic i know nothing about... well one i KNOW my issue with the graph is legit seeing the dataset.
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    • and i KNOW polling is not a hard science. I KNOW also polling is largely politically bias. For one money must come from somewhere for effort. For two said retur
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    • nment on investment of funds. largely for content for ads buys and audiences.
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    • You can deny that or say I have no idea what I'm talking about. But that doesnt make much of an argument for me
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    • Look up the average sample size for a poll for instance, before simply asserting based on your "gut" that it's wrong lol. Here's an article that explains it:yuekit
    • https://www.scientif…yuekit
    • I dont even understand if you think im so unresearched are you implying you are? your reasoning is beginning to look like monos
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    • The idea that polling was way off during the 2016 election is also wrong. The media created the impression that Clinton was going to win, but this is differentyuekit
    • from the polling itself being wrong. In fact, the average of national polling only differed from the final result by about one point.yuekit
    • The US adults thing...no idea what you're talking about there. Imagine if someone (a client maybe) started rambling on and on about a topic you know somethingyuekit
    • about such as design, development etc. from a position of zero knowledge. They would look pretty foolish right? :)yuekit
    • the media portrayed a bias? and that had no feedback bias upon even more polling? Not sure your source for aggregate polling data of 1%/ perhaps another
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    • selective graph? and the "us adults" is a dataset in the graph. but not the data. it implies they polled children or non-adult but let that out of the graph
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    • and i might be foolish thinking they know the client knows nothing. how would i know? afterall design is not hard science either and mostly in eye of the behold
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    • er. my idea of right or portrayal of info may not be their idea of right or portrayal. in other words its very subjective when it comes to data design
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    • but I will say without a doubt the conclusion of the full data set to that question would not have the same meaning as the graph. which is largely my point.
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    • IE only graphing oppose datasets and basing graphically scaling them as a percentage of themselves.
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    • or ignoring party affiliation but keeping same fields and graphing based on total 22% and 25 for strongly and somewhat.
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    • by isolating data we control the message that fits our goals. party aside doesnt 22 and 25 and 22 not sure seem more even keel?
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    • or we can see whites are pretty even but blacks are way against it. and than you can correlate black percentages to liberal and make assumptions based on age
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    • and income. If we take polling as hard science than we should be able to make other assumptions on soft data as education, and societal conidtioning and come
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    • to ageement that most poor black folks will always be liberal based on lack of education and party favors? If we choose to believe these generalizations extrapo
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    • lated true.
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    • and your link takes assumptions into play, admits its largely a mathematical abstraction that changes daily
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    • in other words you cited this graph a couple days ago and now it might not even be relevant and yet we discuss it as such
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    • if something can change so frequently is it a science to accurately follow or to just random test every day and track an average like a stock index? because all
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    • the data proves so accurate there
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    • i just find it so hard for you to admit the simple premise data design (omission and correlation) shapes narratives to designers bias.
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    • deathboy use some common sense. If polling was completely unreliable then it would not be able to predict elections most of the time.yuekit
    • Companies would not invest millions in public opinion polling if there was not a benefit to be gained from it.yuekit
    • What the article I linked actually says is that public opinion changes over time SLIGHTLY to the point where a one percent margin of error vs. a three percentyuekit
    • one is not so important. That doesn't mean you throw out the entire result just because there is some small degree of uncertainty.yuekit
    • It also backs up what I was saying about how a 1,000 or 1,500 person poll can be accurate, which just a short while ago you were convinced wasn't true.yuekit
    • About presenting the data...sure, there's always an editorial decision to be made that includes some stuff and leaves other stuff out. Kind of unavoidable no?yuekit
    • common sense. Maybe i have uncommon sense. polling is a control function of lowest common denominator to support feedback loops and increase odds.
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    • if you poll each day and present to majority you are presenting a narrative that is of its own making. in said data. look im not against polling for gleaming
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    • insights. i dont even care about the number polled as much as how its chosen. which has yet to come up.
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    • as far as editorial dont shrug it off. all editorial is biased. and by nature the data will be manipulated to convey their narrative
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    • and as such all graphs or data pieces should be regarded with high skepitisism. because as you you said bias is avoidable
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    • the perfect example is the way I mentioned the same data could be used to cast a different meaning
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    • that is why companies invest. ways to game peoples ignorance.
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    • and margin of error is a mathematical abstraction in polling methods and criteria. Bad criteria equals bad results
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    • i know ppl believe ai and averages can result in better than normal intelligence but i have yet to see it. again where the technology is most employed is stock
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    • market and using averages and means it is all over the place and hardly accurate however it creates feedback loops of chasing its own tail
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    • but algos are gaming data as an editorial with human bias... goes back to common sense and gut or intuition. i trust my own
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    • and ill take the nice data from the poll and form my own opinions about things
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    • i say we agree on us adults of graph was bullshit. data shows a picture of rep/vs/dem difference in war drumming with a * to more data for better picture.
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    • and should look at full data for own conclusions, because averaging does have a better margin than a no nothing fool
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    • I'm curious what you think the bias or conspiracy behind this poll actually is? If someone conducts a poll and finds a big difference between two voting blocks,yuekit
    • should they NOT point that out? It seems like backwards reasoning to me, from not liking the result to trying to find some reason not to believe it.yuekit
    • you know i actually feel the need to bump post for this because comments getting long in tooth and there is alot more to it all
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  • BusterBoy4

    Secret Service code names for previous Presidents.
    Carter ‘Deacon’
    Reagan ‘Rawhide’
    Bush Sr ‘Timberwolf’
    Clinton ‘Eagle’
    Bush Jr. ‘Trailblazer’
    Obama ‘Renegade’

    Couldn't find one for Trump, but 'Muchroom Dick' would probably work.

  • colin_s3

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/u…

    Eleven of Oregon’s Senate Republicans fled the state this week to avoid a vote on a bill that would cap greenhouse emissions. The group, believed to be hiding in Idaho, left the state senate with too few lawmakers to hold a vote. But the move is more than a legislative maneuver. The missing senators have partnered with right-wing paramilitary groups to threaten violence, should they be brought back to Oregon.

    The state senate had scheduled sessions on Saturday, but cancelled them after reports of several militias’ two-day “Rally to Take the Capitol” this weekend.

    “Oregon State Police has recommended that the Capitol be closed tomorrow due to a possible militia threat,” a spokesperson for the senate president told the Associated Press on Friday night.

    • "...one Republican senator implied that police who pursued them should be ready to die: “Send bachelors and come heavily armed.”" ...PonyBoy
    • https://www.thedaily…PonyBoy
    • insanekingsteven
    • These punks need to be put in their place. Period. The last standoff shouldn't have been allowed to happen, just encourages this stupidity.formed
    • They should be treated as terrorists.formed
    • i guess there's a reason they just can't vote against it. but damn, these guys should be arrestedGnash
    • 'send bachelors' - what a bunch of dicksGnash
    • Minority Republicans want the cap-and-trade proposal aimed at dramatically lowering the state's greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 to be sent to the voters for ap
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    • proval instead of instituted by lawmakers.
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    • Wisconsin Democrats relied on the same strategy in 2011 in the hopes of derailing then-Gov. Scott Walker's (R) anti-union agenda.
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    • politics and so much drama. but i think in this case the reps doing the right thing by letting such rules at least be voted upon.
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    • tactics legal, and juvenile but part of the game, and need no threat of violence
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    • I don’t get why they don’t just vote against it. I guess I’m not understanding the processGnash
    • think fine line quorum stuff. filibuster style tactics
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    • I hate to say it but a Civil War would be preferable to giving this shit a free pass every time. We have to stop Pelosi-ing our democracy away.CyBrainX
  • colin_s0

    re: andrew yang

    https://thebaffler.com/latest/an…

    When asked about his broader political ideology by VICE contributor Alicia Menendez, Yang replied that he is “deeply pragmatic.” This tracks with the characterization of UBI as not left, not right, but forward, a slogan popularized by UBI-advocate Scott Santens and eventually adopted by Yang’s campaign materials. This conception of UBI is part of a prevailing, grotesque notion that policies and policymakers are preferable when they are devoid of politics. And that toothless type of politics-less-ness drives Yang’s support among reddit memelords, technocratic liberals, libertarians, and white supremacists (that, and his engagement on right-wing media platforms with Dave Rubin, Sam Harris, and Ben Shapiro).

    • really, fuck technoutopian savior state mentality.colin_s
    • ugh. why does every single media source that leans to the left sling around "white supremacists!" hyperbole at anyone on the right.inteliboy
    • The thing is, not everyone wants to be part of a union or a worker co op. I see the basic income concept as providing some capital to small business people.yuekit
    • also then to utter Rubin, Harris and Shapiro straight after is so completely out of touch it's kind of repulsive. toxic media everywhere.inteliboy
    • there is absolutely zero website or source of news & editorials that seems sane and nuanced.inteliboy
    • @yuekit a UBI would make arguments against wage stagnation or income inequality that much more difficult- it gives liberals a path out of moralitycolin_s
    • @inteliboy did you read the rest of the article ?colin_s
    • It’s vice, inteliboy. May as well get your news from teen vogueGnash
    • colin_s As far as I can tell most liberals and centrists aren't pushing for a basic income -- too expensive and radical for them. They tend to preferyuekit
    • things like tax credits and targeted subsidies.yuekit
    • Sure there are a few people in Silicon Valley who have said they support it, does that automatically make it a bad idea?yuekit
    • It's unlikely to be implemented in the U.S. anytime soon, but in theory I think a UBI could actually be very successful in reducing inequality.yuekit
    • Because let's face it most other welfare programs are simply designed to keep you from dying or going hungry as you work your shitty 9 to 5 job.yuekit
    • Basic income is the only idea I've heard that would actually give people money to spend or invest to improve their situation.yuekit
    • @yuekit i would agree if i didn't believe that neoliberal technocrats wouldn't use it as an excuse to wipe out social security, and disregard the inequalitycolin_s
    • @gnash read the full article the baffler isn't teen voguecolin_s
    • The first 2.5 paragraphs were enough. Cliched, cult-approved descriptors abound.Gnash
    • Just get rid of all social programs as you fear and adopt a negative income tax. Just no every politcians will want to increase it despite rational budgets
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    • but it is a basic program so you dont starve working. why work if you get enough to invest and spend without work.
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  • PhanLo0

    Find it a bit strange that getting on the gear is still seen as a bad thing, half the country is on coke most weekends, it's so boring.

  • jaylarson0

    Fake news ‘vaccine’ works: ‘pre-bunk’ game reduces susceptibility to disinformation

    https://getbadnews.com

  • imbecile-5

    "No, a former Kavanaugh clerk didn’t flash a “white power sign.” Here’s what really happened."
    https://www.vox.com/2018/9/5/178…

    • lol @ the downvotes... keep making shit up, idiots... soon you won't be able to wave 'goodbye' to peoplePonyBoy
    • triggered by down votes again?monospaced
    • triggered by my comment?PonyBoy
    • odd you comment on the 'downvote' portion of my note and not the fact that you're scared of a hand symbolPonyBoy
    • Sounds like original tweeter forgot to play BadNews! https://getbadnews.c…jaylarson
    • Hand *Clap* symbols *Clap* are *Clap* actual *Clap* violence *Clap*

      Period.
      Gnash
    • *Clap*Gnash
    • I didn’t comment on being scared of a hand symbol because I’m not. I responded to that part of your comment because it was the only partmonospaced
    • ;)monospaced
  • Krassy0

    Democratic candidate to say "Trump" the most times during the debates tonight/tomorrow will win the Democratic nomination.

    • I’m just gonna take a shot of bourbon every time anyone says “Trump”Ramanisky2
    • you'll be totally wasted within the first 45 minKrassy
    • https://youtu.be/vJ6…robotron3k
    • Damn that Tulsi....robotron3k
    • Warren is like Chicken Little, "Everyone is being oppressed, life is horrible, the rich are all bad, the sky is falling,... aaaaarh"robotron3k
    • First time hearing about Tulsi; she makes a solid impression. Strong.Krassy
    • 'Trump' and 'Children' or 'Child'... we'd be dead of alcohol poisoning in mere minutesPonyBoy
    • Why wouldn't they say the name of the guy they're running against? Seems like a weird thing to pick out.yuekit
    • They actually ignored Trump big timeKrassy
  • Krassy0

    Pete + Tulsi is the only Dem ticket that has a shot up against Trump

    • Yang
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    • curious to hear the opinion of the downvoterKrassy
  • robotron3k-3

    Beto spoke the best Español, Spartacus didn't. Deblasio was his normal cunty, rude, elitist self. Klobochar looked like a Hasidic wife!?! Who were the other guys? Warren got forgotten and Tulsi kicked arse!

    • is tulsi the flyin hawaiian?
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    • See shots of her with her board... Hot!robotron3k