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Maybe Biden will chose Warren for VP.
That's our only hope.
If he choses another Tim Kane type, he's got no soul.
- tulsi for vp
*runs and hides*Gnash - he mentioned a woman VP. Wonder if he will stick to that. Maybe he can persuade Pence to come on over.capn_ron
- i think he said woman AND poc, so can't be warrenGnash
- Warren is extremely unpopular, that would be a huge mistake. He needs someone with "normal people" appeal, this extremist left shit has got to stop.zarkonite
- There's rumor that he's considering "that woman from Wisconsin" as Trump likes to call governor Gretchen Whitmer, because he's an asshole.mg33
- Warren is not unpopular and Biden already has enough normal appeal. He needs someone exciting.********
- Ugh, if that's our only hope let's fast forward 4 yearsnb
- Warren couldn't get votes, she's not popular. They had a contest and she got wrecked. She's unexciting as it gets.zarkonite
- The "normal" appeal is to get votes, look at this thread, the far left people have already decided not to vote. You need someone who's going to get Michigan andzarkonite
- Florida or some other states in the south and midwest.zarkonite
- tulsi for vp
- Fax_Benson2
How hard can it be to find somebody electable?
In the US and the UK. Dems and Labour are the two best supported left of centre political entities in the western world - and have / had objectively the two worst incumbents in living memory to beat. How can you fuck that up?
- Yes, almost seems like the system might be slighty broken.webazoot
- that's what you blame when you fucked up finding someone / something electable.Fax_Benson
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There's over 150 if not 200 million people that qualify to be president.
And many reasonable people with the right resume tried.
But this is the best we could do?
- No. It's quite obviously not the "best we could do." When has it ever been?monospaced
- Well, just throw away the 2 party system :)) that will fix things overnight. Multi-party systems offer valid candidatesgrafician
- I fear the position itself isn't desirable to most people who would actually be good at it. It's a thankless position, and Trump made it even worse.monospaced
- There were good candidates though, i.e. Tulsi Gabbard - but impossible to cut through the noise without the cult of personality.inteliboy
- monospaced, we only need one person at a time. You're telling me you can't find civil service people to do it?********
- nb-2
I'm curious to see who (or what) Democrats blame for losing again to Trump.
I sincerely doubt that they will admit that both Biden and Sanders were shit candidates and that their approach to narrowing down candidates is broken AF.
- Who was it they blamed last time? College-educated white women, right? Lololol how pathetic.nb
- "Our most successful candidate of late was an African American in his late 40s... so, we obviously went with one of two white men pushing 80!"nb
- never in a million years do politicians blame their own team. Though in fairness, dems are just playing gop playbook of blaming everything on Obama/Hillary.inteliboy
- Totally. Just wondering what they'll conjure up to blame this time around!nb
- More entertaining is to think who/what Trump will blame when he loses. He already has an encyclopedia of people he's already blamed. It'll be epic!formed
- Trump is gonna win again, sadly. Fuck that dude, but Dems are lost.nb
- Sanders was a fanastic candidate. The most radical, revolutionary candidate the US has produced in a century. All winning points in my book.Khurram
- I'm going to blame the right-wing, neo-liberal fuckwits of the party who shafted Sanders and gave Trump a path to victory.Khurram
- As you can see, I strongly disagree with your obvious neo-liberal sympathies/aversion to socialism/Sanders. And therefore, your entire premise kthaxbaiKhurram
- Trump has a long way to go if he’s to win this time. Not sure why everyone feels like he’s shoo-in. The economy is toast well into at least next year.FNP14
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- ppl don't get on tiktok so we can avoid this shit, but other ppl repost it anyway...grafician
- this is horrible!
*googles Bernie tiktok girlmoldero - dude, no school today? Zoom is forbidden?zaq
- SIMP GIRLinteliboy
- https://twitter.com/…robotron3k
- Not a Bernie fan but I can appreciate it for what it is********
- woodMaaku
- Salarrue13
- haKrassy
- thiscolin_s
- Bahahaharobotron3k
- LOLmoldero
- reversed.neverscared
- ^ works both ways cause one and the sameKrassy
- PonyBoy-8
- neverscared2
- sexy racist lookin for girls.neverscared
- "I coulda' been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am – let's face it."Bluejam
- lolmoldero
- bliznutty0
it's time people need to take a long deep look into what statism/authoritarianism is. take a deep breath, stare it in the face, accept it for what is, understand it's danger, and hold it accountable. it's never been a solution to the problems that it creates.
please understand that in a free world Hitler was a scrawny little dweeb that would have gotten picked on and beat up for acting the way he did. yet because he was the leader of a state apparatus, all the little minions obeyed and carried out his orders. Hitler is not dangerous, the state is the danger.
why is this so hard to understand?
- In case you haven't noticed, there's lots of idiots around, smart people that can do something too few these days...grafician
- He survived WWI, managed to jostle his way to power with ruthless conniving, evil charisma, murder and propaganda.
The epitome of a dangerous individual.monoboy - Yeah, I'm feeling the same thing... we saved the World from Hitler, but all of Europe still has PTSD.robotron3k
- And her removed the state apparatus to get there.monoboy
- *hemonoboy
- reality is german citizens loved hitler, were envious of his power, and proud to obey. statism is a mindset, 'cheney'ing' the minions to the political 'dicks'bliznutty
- He rigged the ballot to give himself total power in the 30s and 4 million Germans still voted against him.monoboy
- He murdered everyone that go in his way.monoboy
- mono, if the system was hijacked by a single man - why did the millions of minions still obey rather than resist and carry out justice? statism is a cultbliznutty
- They did resist. He killed them. Put them in death camps.monoboy
- The rest bought into it with the mass employment and nationalism.monoboy
- eh... you can't let the German people off the hook, the Nazi party was a mass movement with members across all social classes.Khurram
- If you can convince people that they are poor or oppressed unjustly because of another race or creed it soon gathers pace.monoboy
- 'he killed them' or did government 'create and mandate laws' so thus the average citizen could be criminalized? divide citizenry & conquer? sound familiar?bliznutty
- Not letting anyone off the hook. Just explaining how totalitarianism takes root.monoboy
- Why do you ALWAYS talk about this year after year after year as if there was something you or anyone is doing to change it.monospaced
- Because you’re only describing the basic status and nothing more. It’s devoid of anything actionable. Worse is you come off as lecturing. You are the same as usmonospaced
- Everyone jumps to conclusions because it's easier than distinguishing the facts.monoboy
- So if I google statism and look at it and everyone does, what? Then it’s all magically better? Please. Your solution to the issue is to read a wiki?monospaced
- Hold it accountable? What is IT? How do you hold an idea accountable? How are YOU doing that? Can you possible be more vague? Weird.monospaced
- you funny! but you're free and have choices. owning yourself, liberty & namaste are virtuous ideas, being owned isn't.
https://en.wikipedia…bliznutty - What was it that Reinhold Niebuhr said about using oversimplifications? (You'll find that on WikiPedia too).monoboy
- lol, yeah, you sent a fucking wiki page for a WORD. As I predicted. You preach nothing that isn’t in a dictionary as a definition alreadymonospaced
- I asked questions. What action. What is accountable? How are you in ANY way not a part of the system you decry? Fucking LOLmonospaced
- You earn dollars. You pay taxes. You buy goods from China and contribute to the machine, pollution and everything else typical of dictionary American capitalismmonospaced
- calm down dude.. geez. i understand you're so hopelessly dependent on the system that you will defend it, regardless if its moral, or has good-intentions.bliznutty
- you're just screaming at me saying "i would've been a nazi and never resisted! what's your point?"bliznutty
- also citizens don't "pay" taxes. at the end of the day taxes are taken by forcebliznutty
- ...in exchange for things the state provides like schools, infrastructure, police, military, business etc.monoboy
- a society with no accountability, recourse or basic shit like roads to drive on sounds fun but it might be a bit 'inefficient'.monoboy
- You can have collective power and resources without infringing on personal rights. If you have respect for more than just yourself of course.monoboy
- Sadly for Americans, a lot of their tax dollars go into private pockets.monoboy
- A lot of politicians merely serve private interests and not the public they represent.monoboy
- I've bored myself now. Here endeth today's sermon.monoboy
- Dude blitz. You’re AS dependent on it as I am. You aren’t above the system you exist in. You are a commoner.monospaced
- even if he is mono he isnt trying to justify it as moral. that is the bug difference and the point. and free minds inside systems are never truely part of them********
- shit Mb with his you can have collective power resources without infringing on personal rights... hell give an example********
- becuase im gonna call bullshit on that statement********
- ernexbcn-1
How are the Sandernistas holding up?
- robotron3k4
- As its should beSalarrue
- Lots of college kids r gonna need that student loan money they donated to him back. Looks like they'll need to pay for school after all.robotron3k
- R_Kercz4
Intercepted : The Failed State of America
https://theintercept.com/2020/04…- Wow, whiney, nasally liberal journalists are openly admitting Biden has dementia. This has to be a first.robotron3k
- robo, it's lonely in quarantinezaq
- It's easier to find Waldo than it is A Biden supporter.robotron3k
- But still easier than finding brain cells in in your pumpkinscruffics
- Donald Trump’s presidency, by every possible measure, is an abject failure.neverscared
- bliznutty0
straight out of Henry Kissinger's mouth - you can now use the words 'New World Order' and 'Liberal World Order' interchangeably!
- https://upload.wikim…bliznutty
- i know you kiddos love the word 'liberal'bliznutty
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Democrats want Biden out, Cuomo in
- lolKrassy
- FlolzPhanLo
- fuck them allcolin_s
- No, bring back Bernie.********
- hillary2020renderedred
- ^ 2 decades ago Gore failed in 2nd POTUS run, he was VP for 8 yrs and male. Billary was 1st lady for 8 and secretary for 4. Not even in top 5 for Bidens VP pick********
- colin_s4
the new york times, vox, and a handful of other liberal-leaning but anti-bernie media outlets all posted shit like "the america we need" and "our healthcare system is broken" op-eds yesterday.
like they literally spent months railroading the sanders campaign platform, and now that there's no danger in calling for change, are echoing its sentiments.
honestly at this point i just don't care anymore. to me this was the end. the american concept of "change over time using the two options we provide for you by way of a game show circus of electoral events that we control" governance has run the course and i've no more mind to pay it.
we need a thread for potential hobbies to replace political obsessions with
- Bernie was a joke, dude! Utopian believes and far from practical 'plans.' Seems like a nice guy tho. But yeah, the DNC & liberal media are also lame, agreed.Krassy
- Alternately, you could plan a move to a civilised country after the lockdowns are lifted.Continuity
- Congrats! You've become a Republican. Don't worry, they just need your cynicism and lack of participation to keep their program going.zarkonite
- It's adorable when 'left' leaning folks discover the rags they once believed functioned under the guise of non-opinionated 'journalism' are mere shit <3PonyBoy
- Vox is mostly terrible. At least the Times does reporting.nb
- @pony i'm not ignorant to the media, it's that the sanders campaign was the last perceptible hope in shifting america to the left for the next 20 yearscolin_s
- tbf we all need candidates that are <50 y/okingsteven
- Man VOX is awful. Festering stank of self righteous far left nonsense.inteliboy
- ^ Also Pony - condescending much?inteliboy
- not at all... I fit right in <3PonyBoy
- zarkonite1
https://medium.com/@JoeBiden/joe…
Biden is commiting to "Lowering the Medicare Eligibility Age to 60" and to "Forgiving student debt for low-income and middle class individuals who have attended public colleges and universities" among many other things...
- trying to scoop up the Bernie votesKrassy
- https://www.instagra…wordssssss
- Biden needs the Bernie supporters, like Trump needs Fox News.utopian
- bullshitmoldero
- @medium? anyone can write for mediummoldero
- ^ it's the american dreamkingsteven
- @utopian you sure about that? biden and clinton's demographics overlap and we saw how that worked outcolin_s
- He got the loan deal from Warren and now he wants to adopt healthcare for Bernie's fans. Smart to lay it out there now.formed
