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- PhanLo2
Sunday funday, ( Brexit thread / America is Fucked )
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- colin_s-1
election night is going to be such a strange mixture of emotions
- it's gonna be fucked up either wayrenderedred
- don't expect any final answers on election night. It's going to take a few days, maybe weeks.akiersky
- I'm not sure about that. If Biden wins by a predictable margin then all the whining Trump does is going to have to be ignored for a change.CyBrainX
- utopian0
Trump told me to votes at least twice, to test the security of elections systems. This is my patriots duty...so I will do as told.
- "patriotic duty"utopian
- I remember him saying that almost 2 months ago. Why post it again?monospaced
- He is now telling people in every state that he rally's to vote twice.utopian
- to make sure , coz i didnt know he said it.neverscared
- Nairn4
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I'd love to have a [very short] holiday in Trump's brain, just to feel how entirely warped his perspective is. It's total projection, isn't it? Absolutely every last thing he sees as being wrong in the world, he does so because he's already doing it.
- Ramanisky22
I’m still truly stunned by this incredible display of hypocrisy. One for the history books.
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- i expect this to be great for ads********
- either freudian slip, or a very very senior moment... even took time to think about what he was saying...********
- yawn, let me know when he causes the deaths of 230k Americansdorf
- yawn. false equivalents. like trump is responsible for any of the deaths. that is stupid to suggest********
- but here either a senior moment with mind wandering or senior moment speaking what he believes to be true and forgetting to lie... fuckin ad gold here********
- havent even see a defensive piece on it. almost like get social to sweep it under the rug. shhhh********
- hahahahahahadorf
- dorf any reason why he might take time and pause to say they have the bestest and biggest fraud machine?********
- Hmmm yeah that's interesting...I went back and listen to the interview this out of context clip is taken from.yuekit
- out of context how so exactly yuekit?********
- @DB serious question: if how why before not haah an d also how seriously paradigm what beings can possible?garbage
- he wasn't just talking about fraud he was elevator speeching and taking his time. either old man mind wandering between talking points are accidently admittin********
- What he's actually talking about is that they've put together a legal group to prevent the government from suppressing peoples' vote.yuekit
- something he thinks is true ad forgot to lie about. typical onset dementia. either way it says a lot.********
- https://youtu.be/C6u…yuekit
- its pretty obvious, when swing states are saying you dont even need signatures to match on ballots... shit is rigged like mexico********
- Pretty clear if you listen to the next couple minutes...he says call this number if your ballot gets unfairly thrown out (which is a real issue).yuekit
- uh yea yuekit i watched it. i didnt take the quick fix. exactly what context is out of context?********
- hes talking about the obama platform into his about voting platform. taking his time and not even acknowledging any misspeak********
- I don't think anyone but you would have trouble understanding it if you watch the full video. He's not advocating fraud, he's saying call this number if theyuekit
- government tries to fraudulently throw out your vote.yuekit
- u might hear what you hear but i also hear what isnt said. imagine trump gaffed like that the media outlets reactions? they have to twist far more for headlines********
- As usual your side doesn't care what's true or not, just do whatever it takes including lying and spreading disinformation.yuekit
- sure looks like senile clarity or early dementia not even noticing what he said. either dont work out well********
- uh huh. my side. how does someone take his time botch so bad and not realize it?********
- this is not disinformation. this is him talking and his cognitivie ability.********
- Haha yeah whatever you obviously just saw on Trump's campaign site and reposted it without checking. Exactly what they wanted you to do.yuekit
- as far as gov fraudulently throwing out votes... what? old man think gov throw out votes? the bad voting shit is the extra ballots and loosened restrictions********
- to count them. i have multiple ballots with unique codes. i in another state can get ballots from CA, my local state also blocking ballot counting open viewing.********
- In 2016 Trump said 3 million people voted illegally and he actually won the popular vote instead of Hillary, you believe that too? lolyuekit
- pa just said no need for sigs too match. its a clusterfuck of election no one can take serious bc democratic party. not trump lack of faith********
- every policy put in place that makes 0 fuckin sense unless in hopes to create gains or fraud in favor of democratic votes. the process is pretty horrific********
- that is obvious and as much biden should understand it and why i wouldnt be surpised if he had a little senile clarity and repeating what he is told********
- but i am curious if you only see this video on this link from me? and if so make you wonder exactly about the media you are exposed to?********
- I actually watched the whole interview with Biden earlier and didn't even notice that part. It's completely irrelevant unless you are trying to confuseyuekit
- people and misrepresent what he said to help Trump's campaign.yuekit
- Dems created a legal group to prevent the government from unfairly throwing out your ballot. That's all.yuekit
- And of course if there is a legal challenge, this actually reduces risk of fraud because a court will be double checking everything.yuekit
- not trying to confuse. he said it. you don't think his words matter or if he noticed what he said?********
- what do u think made him take his time and say it? i get mixing up speech on topics. but i dont quite see this being that, and usually people catch their mistak********
- he went full campaign as in debates practice look at camera hand gesture try to be mechanical.********
- i dont dislike the guy. i actually think hes been through a ton of shit and with shit sons (his beltway roles didnt help) but fuck hes fading********
- Maybe he should have said "voter fraud prevention group" or "anti-voter suppression group." But what's worse, him misspeaking or Trump pushing thisyuekit
- and dont forget the dems also push no sig check, addresses or any proof of existence********
- out to millions of people and trying to make it look like some big conspiracy when in all likelihood he knows full well what Biden meant?yuekit
- like i said i can register to vote in CA and send my card to shelter. There is no checks or balances. just a threat of a fine. but if no one polices it....********
- Granted there are a lot of dumb people out there in America, a lot of gullible people. And almost no one will go back and watch the original clip even though ityuekit
- took me about 30 seconds to find it.yuekit
- If Biden wins I fully expect there will be some three hour YouTube documentary about how the vote was stolen from him, and they will use this out of contextyuekit
- clip as "proof" of a conspiracy lol.yuekit
- im not saying this is a proof of conspiracy. im saying democrats are trying to change rules as much as possible to get votes regardless if representative********
- that is obvious in the politics. dont see it as a bi-partisan issue or an issue at all. but bidens statement still comes down to how senile********
- senile with a freudian slip. or just senile. come on how do you not notice that bad of a gaffe?********
- Biden throughout his life has always been like that as far as I can tell. Misspeaking and messing up the exact wording of things.yuekit
- Of course he has also lost a step given he's in his 70s. But Trump is basically the same age, just with hair dye and tanner and also rambles on incoherently.yuekit
- Ultimately this is just an irrelevant thing and waste of time to focus on, it's clear what he meant and there's nothing to object to there.yuekit
- i dont think it can be shrugged off as easily as u make it. hence why you trying to do comparisons. irrelevant not so much. gary johnson allepo********
- more a gaffe, this is a person who didn't even realize what he said trying to stick to talking points. he straight up reminds me of my grandpa that slipped********
- Gary Johnson Aleppo thing was also dumbyuekit
- and i question wether it was truthful or just a confusion of words of slipping. be surprised how demetia sometimes just says what they beleive********
- but this allepo thing got brow beat in media and was clearly a gaffe he realized... how will this play out********
- think this should get as much media coverage?********
- RIP boboboyRamanisky2
- i expect this to be great for ads
- dorf1
there's only 14 states that have modified their voting policies for 2020. Fraud is just a boogeyman word used by the GOP.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/el…Seems to me like the GOP is doing anything possible to not count votes this election cycle. It smells of desperation.
https://electionlawblog.org/- are the policies mostly in swing states? and exactly reasons for changes or motives?********
- im in a swing state and dem gov used emergency powers to supercede sec of state which he shouldnt be able to do to allow ballot harvesting********
- that is kind of a big one. and when sec state tried to at least get a record of anyone turning in more than 3 votes it was rejected. why reject sumthin like tha********
- also being sued because rules on non partisan overview of counting. counting now can be done with no oversight in parts of process********
- are the policies mostly in swing states? and exactly reasons for changes or motives?
- neverscared3
Its unbearable to watch. Ferocious from impunity, Lukashenka's police are hunting protesters in private apartments, threatening to use gas if the people don't go with them
- neverscared2
European support for populist beliefs falls, YouGov survey suggests
Survey showed a decline in populist tendencies during 2020 in all eight European countries surveyed
- nb11
Republicans:
"You must not confirm a Supreme Court Justice during an election year! We refuse to even listen to arguments!"Also Republicans:
"Today we're proud to confirm a Supreme Court Justice, just eight days before an election."EIGHT. DAYS.
Shame on all Republicans. Shame on all the right-wing cowards in the media and at home for not voicing any objection to this epic hypocrisy.
- GOP deserves to lose the presidency, the house and the senate over this. Let's see next Tuesday.nb
- i watched her testimony. all her answers were flawlessGnash
- Absolute power corrupts absolutely.ideaist
- My mum is a practicing catholic even she thinks what Barrett is into is nuts. But her view of American politics/religion is pretty low anyway.PhanLo
- Heyooooo it's not really about Barrett or any particular judge. It's about an entire political party made up of snakes.nb
- And the people who vote for Republicans after this kind of bullshit deserve no respect. Have you no principles at all?!nb
- Like you say nb it's not so much about her bizarre religious beliefs, more about who paid to get her in the position. She voted 75% in favour of corporate...PhanLo
- ...interests in cases in the past, so even they must laugh about her speaking in tongues, but as long as she keeps the lawsuits away, it's all good.PhanLo
- If the dem had the house, they would have done the exact same thing. No question at all.Gnash
- It sucks, but it’s trueGnash
- Oh pls. They would not. This is unconscionable.nb
- The dems did try to do this w/Obama's last year but they didn't control the Senate... what Gnash stated is not only plausible but actually occurred.PonyBoy
- In regards to picking Garland to replace Scolia... Ruth Bader Ginsburg even went so far as to say the following: "“Nothing in the Constitution prevents a...PonyBoy
- ...president from nominating to fill a court seat. That’s their job. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being president...PonyBoy
- ...in his last year."
https://www.snopes.c…PonyBoy - PonyBoy you are stretching the truth big timenb
- What the dems did is in NO WAY the same as thisnb
- That happened during Obama's last year of presidency... RBG had his back (of all people).PonyBoy
- And before you compare 9 months to 1 month keep in mind the Presidential campaigns are in full swing w/9 months left. There is no diff between 1 and 9 months.PonyBoy
- I didn't remotely stretch the truth, nb... I understand you're emotional over this and find it outrageous (I agree it's pretty lame)... but facts are facts. :/PonyBoy
- Ya, pony, that’s exactly what I meant. If the dems had the house, 100% they would have pushed through their pick. No questionGnash
- Yes if they had the house they would have pushed their pick. THATS NOT THE ISSUEnb
- The issue is the gop refusing to even hear, 9 months out. Also I’d like to just point out that you said there’s no difference between 1 and 9nb
- I’m not emotional over it. The dems didn’t block a judge under the made up guise of “shouldn’t in an election year”. Election season doesn’t end.nb
- I thought your issue was one of process? The dems ‘process’ would have been identical had they the same opportunity.Gnash
- Zero chance that the dems would not have filled that same seat, the same wayGnash
- Are you saying that if the Dems controlled the Senate that they'd just let hearings occur for Barrett, nb? I'll even spot you 9 months w/that question. :)PonyBoy
- At this point I agree Dems would do the same but this is after the GOP has steadily tossed out all of the standards that existed for confirming justices.yuekit
- For instance there was a very basic expectation that when a vacancy comes up while a president is in office, they get to appoint the replacement.yuekit
- But GOP threw out this rule for Obama. They also blocked all kinds of judicial appointments he tried to do at lower levels and were just assholes generally :)yuekit
- There was also a rule that said if a Supreme Court nominee was too extreme or unacceptable they could be filibustered by the other side. GOP also scrapped thisyuekit
- when they confirmed Neil Gorsuch. So there's been a race to the bottom, none of it illegal but definitely a departure from how things were done before inyuekit
- order to get this right-wing supermajority.yuekit
- The way you guys are framing as if each side is just going to ruthlessly pursue whatever options they have, maybe that's the case now. And maybe when Demsyuekit
- win control of the entire government they will add justices to the SC, which is also totally legal BTW. But this is a new thing, it's not how it was done in theyuekit
- past. There was far more balance and respect for agreed rules and practices back then and it's gone completely off the rails now.yuekit
- yes, as shamefull as it gets...neverscared
- I KNOW they would have filled the seat. That's their job! That's fine! THE PROBLEM is that the Republicans refused to even entertain the notion of a candidate.nb
- A good example of how different things used to be...when George Bush nominated Clarence Thomas for Supreme Court, it was an election year and Dems controlledyuekit
- the Senate. He was a controversial nominee with pretty extreme views. But nonetheless Dems didn't shut it down, they held hearings because they thought they hadyuekit
- an obligation to, and he was confirmed. About 10 Dems even voted for him.yuekit
- tweak the story all you want, but they are both the sameGnash
- I mean they're obviously not if Dems allowed Clarence Thomas, the most conservative justice, to be confirmed.yuekit
- Ya, it’s not like the dems ever borked a potential judge. Oh wait...Gnash
- Are you saying you think that guy should have been appointed to the Supreme Court?yuekit
- He was a terrible choice, helped Nixon cover up Watergate. Democrats opposed him, but so did some Republicans.yuekit
- And after his nomination was withdrawn, Dems voted for Reagan's second choice Anthony Kennedy. So this actually proves the opposite of what you guys wereyuekit
- trying to claim above. In this case they voted based on peoples' qualifications rather than just automatically blocking everything the other party did.yuekit
- Gop voted for dem judges too. They are no differentGnash
- That's what I was trying to explain above, it used to be a much more bipartisan process until the GOP decided to blow things up and start rewriting the rulesyuekit
- during Obama's presidency. This line they are pushing now that this is how it has always worked is not accurate.yuekit
- There was no ‘rewriting’ of any rules. The GOP just did exactly what the Dems would have done. Good try, thoughGnash
- Then why did Dems hold a vote on Kennedy and Thomas when they controlled the Senate?yuekit
- That's two seats on the Supreme Court they could have blocked but didn't. There's no example you can point to of Democrats doing same thing as GOP.yuekit
- No rules were rewritten or broken. Gop voted for dems when they could have blocked too.Gnash
- Because you think the dems dance with the angels doesn’t make it soGnash
- I didn't say Dems are perfect, but this is just the reality of what happened. For the past century...I think it may even go back to Abraham Lincoln...yuekit
- presidents were always given a vote on their nominee by the opposing party, and nearly all of the time the person was approved.yuekit
- Then suddenly under Obama the GOP decided they didn't want to do this anymore. And the reason they gave was that you can't hold the vote too closeyuekit
- to an election, which a rule they pretty much made up out of thin air. Everyone at the time recognized it was unprecedented.yuekit
- Then under Trump of course they approved his nominee literally two weeks before the election. And on top of that they changed the rules so that Supreme Courtyuekit
- appointments required 50 votes rather than 60.yuekit
- Check what party changed the rules about number of votes... Hint, it wasn’t the GOP. In fact, the GOP argued against lowering the required votesGnash
- The dems, in a swirl of hubris, thought they’re win more seats In the future. Oops!Gnash
- So, again, you’re wrong. The Dems are just devious. They just lost the last few rounds of chicken they played with the gop.Gnash
- Keep trying, thoughGnash
- *just as deviousGnash
- Haha no they didn'tyuekit
- https://www.usatoday…yuekit
- Wait aren't you in Canada anyway? Why you care so much about our judicial nomination process? :)yuekit
- Trying to imagine myself sitting through a Canadian judicial hearing or having any kind of opinion about it at all...yuekit
- Don’t think you’d have the attention span, But I’m sure you can imagine something with that big American brain.Gnash
- Um, you read that article? LolGnash
- “ The Democrat-controlled Senate voted 52-48 in favor of the change, which was dubbed the "nuclear option."Gnash
- This is a getting a little silly. I think we can both see that was a different vote than the one I was talking about above.yuekit
- You kept saying there was no rules change, when in reality GOP did change the rules on Supreme Court in 2017.yuekit
- https://www.politico…yuekit
- That's not my main complaint against them BTW, I think what was worse was obstructing everything Obama tried to do in a way that wasn't done to other presidentsyuekit
- imbecile8
- Future PresidentBusterBoy
- ++zaq
- He’s goodnb
- This mah dude.DRIFTMONKEY
- allthethings2
This may have been posted years ago, but it's really great, and one the things that led me to believe he was the right choice for the Dems. And I say that as someone who wanted Warren, then Harris.
Vice President Biden Discusses Grief at TAPS
Vice President Joe Biden talks with surviving families of our fallen military heroes at the opening session of the 18th Annual TAPS National Military Survivor Seminar, held over Memorial Day Weekend in 2012.
- BusterBoy2
- Court packing time!zarkonite
- I read somewhere that this account is controlled by Jim Jordan.Josev
- ^ you mean Gym JordanRamanisky2
- gop = anti-ethical scumbagsneverscared
- BusterBoy3
Shocking Ad...but not beyond the realms of possibility. The "Pence Law".
- neverscared2
- On Monday, Erdogan called for a complete boycott of French products in Turkey, saying: “Never give credit to French-labelled goods, don’t buy them.” he also comneverscared
- pared the treatment of Muslims in Europe to that of Jews before World War II, saying they were the object of a “lynching campaign.”neverscared
- His fans stabbed oranges before because he barked at Netherlands.Beeswax
- lol , great artists..neverscared
- That is one tiny footprintGnash
- Ramanisky21
Those Republicans have a pretty tight budget I guess.
Political ads running in Iowa
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