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- PhanLo1
- QBennn
- thats the entire trump baseball hat factory what was moved to japan years ago after somebody posted a picture that those products are made in china.sted
- I follow a Japanese artist who loves Trump, it's weird. Maybe something is lost in translation.PhanLo
- It's known that there are extremes views in asia shared with white nationalists, something about "pure race territories"Salarrue
- Nothing like those black vans with japanese flags parking up outside Shibuya station, mega phone shouting in nihongo things about japan for japanese to make youshapesalad
- feel like you're in the USA in many ways....shapesalad
- I don't think it's racism, they just got pulled into the same right-wing media vortex as people in the West.yuekit
- @PhanLo maybe his policies against china can be leveraged to build and nourish a local fan base?sted
- As this guy explains, it's not only in Japan but Hong Kong, Taiwan etc
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - thanks @yuekit. i see the same bs in my home countrysted
- Gardener2
- That was a weird one. I hope his graffiti is haunted forever now.PhanLo
- attention trolls. no one will know who they are in a yeardkoblesky
- No one really knows who they are now.PhanLo
- who are these people and why should I care?dasohr
- Whoscarabin
- Check them out. both talented. I really like John Maus. Wouldn't be surprised if some of these types are into Trump as some kind of hipster art experimentFax_Benson
- “i was in dc to peacefully show my support for the president. i attended the rally on the white house lawn and went back to hotel and took a nap. case closed,”Gnash
- His label just dropped himFNP14
- That’ll learn’imGnash
- R_Kercz1
I was talking to some coworkers about how I think its really fucked that deaths of terrorists are not being spoken about distinctly from deaths of non terrorists. Anyone else have an opinion about that?
This seems like an opportunity to create a convention for showing this kind of data.
- huh?monospaced
- Can you give an example?Maaku
- The news is telling me 5 people died, the better way to say this may be 1 civilian and 4 terrorists have diedR_Kercz
- everyone that does something illegal is a terrorist nowGuyFawkes
- Only if that illegal thing is an immediate threat to lives of innocent people, and has the sole purpose of inciting terror in its intended targets.monospaced
- For example, the terrorists are now planning to terrorize the inauguration and anyone involved.monospaced
- All political violence is technically terrorism. By that narrow definition though, there's been a shit ton of terrorism in the past few years.IRNlun6
- in israel for example the media never publishes the name of the suicide bomber. names of civilians are published and there is a distinct difference.renderedred
- So if you burn down buildings during a protest, that’s terrorism right?Gnash
- It is most likely arson if nobody was in it or it was just a closed business.monospaced
- Ramanisky25
I wish I could say I feel sorry for Lady G.
- Well i declare!wagshaft
- He is a garbage human being, he enabled this insanity. He even predicted his own destruction before siding with Donnie.PhanLo
- So angryinv
- that karen voicested
- ^ lol I thought about posting this in the Karen threadRamanisky2
- news is reporting he's in ICU cuz a leopard ate his facedorf
- Reap, then sow. Rinse & repeat.DRIFTMONKEY
- Karen's voice = nails on chalkboardKrassy
- there you go, trump legitimized idiots and their conspiricies. this is america now.
*qanon shaman action figure in the backgroundrenderedred - These mental midgets have no focus. I'm betting they dissipate slowly in the next couple of years, these are the same ppl that made up the tea party...zarkonite
- The spineless, hypocritical, two-faced bastard is hated by everyone now...I love it.utopian
- ^ Exactly Utopian. :-)PhanLo
- @utopian nah, in some countries they talk about that "Chaos and unrest followed Joe Biden' victory" and show a trump supporter who talks about that thested
- nation guard wasn't called in during the BLM protests and now it is.sted
- here is the video (put the headline in google translate :)
https://www.youtube.…sted - entire 4 mins is full with lies.sted
- in serbia the sentiment is "bolsheviks are taking over" LOLrenderedred
- allthethings7
Twitter has banned pro-Trump cartoonist Ben Garrison.
awwwwww
thoughts and prayers
- cartoonist? let's not raise him above his station.fadein11
- what was his crime?monNom
- crime? lol. it's twitterdorf
- No way, he's a maestro!PhanLo
- I mean, he's been drawing those cartoons for a long time now, did he finally cross the line with something? why the ban now?monNom
- his cartoons were always problematic but this week was the straw that broke the camel's backdorf
- Trump kept getting younger and strongerallthethings
- I just read Trump and many allies all banned today. I guess he got caught up in that purge.monNom
- sarahfailin1
probably because of this?
- Hanb
- That's not that bad for Garrison.PhanLo
- How this hack ever rose to notoriety is beyond meFNP14
- Right wing folk really struggle to be creative, have you seen how shit their art and design is? It is getting better, but there's not much choice.PhanLo
- Who is that big guy?monospaced
- ^That's the unheard American hero coming to hang some commizPhanLo
- PhanLo3
- a pede????nb
- 'I guess there was no plan after all'
No shitPhanLo - The centipede is a predator. This is why Trump supporters will call each other "centipedes".dbloc
- I had to look it up..I was just as confused as you. My first assumption was pedophile.
https://archive.attn…dbloc - Lol yah announcing yourself online as a pede is ... Riskynb
- I thought it might be a ref to Pepe the frog at first.monospaced
- Whoever came up centipede or pede is definitely trolling these guys right?nb
- 'Pede' and 'nimble' were spread around by Lucky Palmer when he got involved with Trump a while back.face_melter
- Fuckin pedes!nb
- sted0
A newly launched Hungarian social media network claims it wants to create a censorship-free platform with a million users in a country of ten million people by the end of the year.
- comments are weird there, they're gonna move to poland or hungary because it's "more free"dorf
- they have no idea :) i would love to see their face when they get pulled in for a 12h shift on a day when they want to go protest against anything.sted
- because the labor code allows it, and some factories like the chinese Hankook proved that they happy to use the opportunities offered by the law.sted
- the weird af is that these governments are are on the right side and they are kissing the communist asses and use truly commie methods.sted
- Bennn0
This is good time for inspiration for whom have a punk band
- imbecile0
- how about we just don't have leaders.shapesalad
- we really need a data based AI that just tweaks tax/spending for the better of mankind.shapesalad
- This was interestingdbloc
- shape, it's coming, hopefully, sooner than later_niko
- jonny_quest_lives2
"The Deep State is real, but it’s not what you think. The Deep State you worry about is mostly made up; a fiction, a lie, a product of active imaginations, grifter manipulations, and the internet. I’m telling you this now because storming the Capitol building has drawn the attention of the real Deep State — the national security bureaucracy — and it’s important you understand what that means."
- can you paste the text. requires a login to read.dorf
- will dojonny_quest_lives
- jonny_quest_lives3
Pasted from the below link as requested:
To the QAnon community, and others involved in storming the Capitol:
The Deep State is real, but it’s not what you think. The Deep State you worry about is mostly made up; a fiction, a lie, a product of active imaginations, grifter manipulations, and the internet. I’m telling you this now because storming the Capitol building has drawn the attention of the real Deep State — the national security bureaucracy — and it’s important you understand what that means.
You attacked America. Maybe you think it was justified — as a response to a stolen election, or a cabal of child-trafficking pedophiles, or whatever — but it was still a violent attack on the United States. No matter how you describe it, that’s how the real Deep State is going to treat it.
The impact of that will make everything else feel like a LARP.
The Real Deep State
I’ve been teaching college students about the Deep State for years, and have interacted with it on occasion. By “Deep State,” I’m referring to executive branch agencies populated with unelected officials, especially those involving national security, law enforcement, and intelligence. The non-nefarious name for it is “the federal bureaucracy,” with the subset that includes the military, CIA, and FBI known as “the national security state.”
In 2017, conservative writer David Frum quipped that if you replaced “Deep State” with “rule of law,” you’d have a better understanding of Trumpist complaints.
There’s some truth in that. Federal agencies and their mandates were created by law, their annual budgets are determined by law, and they’re overseen by elected officials. Their main job is executing U.S. law, and one reason they’ve clashed with the White House is being asked to do things outside their legal abilities, or to not do things that are legally required.
So rule of law is part of it, but it’s not that simple.
The president appoints and the Senate confirms top officials, from the Secretary of State to the five members of the Arctic Research Commission, over 1,200 in total. Every other executive branch employee — over 4 million if you include the military, over 2.7 million if you don’t — is hired or recruited, not elected or appointed. This means that the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, the intelligence community, and federal law enforcement are staffed with people the agencies hired themselves.
Their mandates are broad. For example, the FBI is supposed to “investigate federal crimes and threats to national security.” While there are laws giving the FBI certain powers (e.g. to arrest people) and limits (needing warrants), a lot is open to interpretation, especially regarding national security threats.
It’s fair to say the FBI, CIA, IRS, CDC, and other federal agencies have, to some extent, taken on lives of their own. So has the military, and the larger defense-industrial complex. They’re under control of elected and appointed leaders, but also not, acting according to established laws, established regulations (many of which they wrote themselves), and individual judgment calls. You could call that “the Deep State.”
National Security
If you want to understand the real Deep State, the biggest thing you need to know is it’s institutional, impersonal, and operates on a national scale.
The law enforcement-intelligence-nationa... security bureaucracy doesn’t really care about a lot of the little things people think it cares about. It’s mostly focused on terrorists, serial killers, narco-traffickers, and foreign governments. Threats to the nation.
Previous QAnon activity wasn’t on that scale, but the Capitol attack is. I don’t think this has sunk in yet. It wasn’t 9/11, but it was bigger than, for example, Benghazi.
Americans storming the Capitol to prevent Congress from carrying out election law hasn’t happened before. When four Puerto Rican nationalists shot at Congressmen from the House balcony in 1954, they were rightly called terrorists, convicted in federal court, and imprisoned. And that was just four attackers, no one died, and it wasn’t encouraged by a losing presidential candidate to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.
The Capitol attack was a unique event in American history, something they’ll teach about in high school. National security analysts are comparing it to last year’s FBI-thwarted plot to kidnap and execute Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, which came a few months after armed demonstrators forcefully stopped business at the Michigan statehouse. There have been armed post-election demonstrations at multiple statehouses, and reports of plots to storm them next week.
It’s a pattern. And after the Capitol attack, the Deep State is going to take it seriously.
U.S. code defines “sedition” as using “force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States.” That’s what you did. And the legal process you tried to stop is one of the most important in American democracy.
Five people are dead, and it could’ve easily been more. You beat a police officer to death and injured others. You set up a gallows and chanted “hang Mike Pence.” While some goofy attention-seekers attracted the most focus at first, it’s increasingly clear that some who stormed the Capitol, likely members of far right militias, were searching for Vice President Pence, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, and other national leaders, and would’ve killed them if they had the chance. That’s terrorism, fortunately thwarted by Capitol security and luck.
Compare that to, for example, riots this past summer. Looting is bad, but it’s a problem for police and insurance companies. Trying to burn down a police station or courthouse is worse, but that too is a law enforcement problem, perhaps one requiring federal assistance. Storming the Capitol, forcefully hindering the execution of U.S. law, and trying to kill top elected officials is a national security problem.
What you did was on another level, and the reaction will be too.
After the Capitol Attack
By “you,” I don’t mean you personally (unless you were there), but your movement as a whole. QAnon’s fingerprints are all over this.
A 35-year-old woman named Ashli Babbitt, shot by Capitol police as she climbed through an opening near where elected officials were hiding, was a QAnon believer who thought she was taking part in the prophesized “storm.” The guy in the horns who traipsed through the Senate chamber is known as the “Q Shaman.” QAnon slogans and hashtags, such as “where we go one we go all,” can be seen on shirts and signs at the riot, and on tons of related social media posts.
This means that, for the first time, the Deep State cares about you.
No matter what anyone’s told you, Deep State operatives weren’t spending their time messing with your internet discussions. That’s below their radar. It wasn’t until May 2019 that an FBI intelligence bulletin warned of the potential for terrorism from “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists,” using QAnon and Pizzagate as examples. But it didn’t become a law enforcement or counterterrorism priority.
I should know — I’ve been trying to get them to take QAnon more seriously. This past August, after Trump publicly acknowledged the movement, I warned of the potential for election violence in a national security publication called Defense One:
Win, lose, or too close to call, Trump will be in a position to activate the violent subsets of QAnon, deliberately or inadvertently. The president has been insisting, without evidence, that the election will be rigged, blaming an ambiguous “they” or a rotating cast of villains. The conspiracy-minded QAnon community makes for a receptive audience.
If Trump starts tweeting things like “RIGGED! They’re trying to take your country. Don’t let them! THIS IS IT! Second Amendment!” — let alone if he uses QAnon lingo like “the Storm is upon us” — there’s a risk that some violence-embracing QAnon followers decide to act. And if some do, it could encourage others.
That’s basically what happened. If anything, I think I guessed low.
But now that QAnon was involved in violent sedition, the national security state is paying attention. Arrests of people caught on camera storming the Capitol have already begun. Prosecutions will follow. Big tech companies — who, while powerful, are weaker than, and have a healthy fear of the government — are now treating QAnon almost like how they treat ISIS. A giant federal apparatus built to fight al Qaeda will shift some capacity to fighting you, especially the white nationalist and anti-government militias in your orbit.
You cheered on lawyers who said they’d release the Kraken. But now you’ve poked Leviathan.
This is what you need to absorb: QAnon and “stop the steal” are forever associated with a violent attack against the United States. Maybe that’s not what it’s meant to you, maybe you think that’s a misread of last week’s events, but that’s how the real Deep State, a lot of elected officials, and much of the public sees it.
If that isn’t what you signed up for, now would be a good time to get out.- thanksbezoar
- powerfulmonospaced
- good stuffdasohr
- Yep, this is incredibly good.mg33
- nb0
Republicans and internet morons will sometimes argue that “Democrats are just as bad.”
But there actual neo-nazis who support Republicans. Not just people who are nazi-adjacent in their beliefs. I’m talking about the Republicans who literally associate with nazis. The ones who describe themselves as nazis.
Now, you might be a Republican who says “well that’s still very few of us. Almost 0%”
But like does it never dawn on you that the fact that every single neo-nazi supports your party and never the other party JUST MIGHT be a sign that you’re the bad guys? Neo-nazis aren’t split across party lines. When they vote, they always vote Republican.
Does this not give Republicans pause? Does this not make them wonder?
- are we the baddies?renderedred
- Simpletons say "both sides do it." Simpletons say "both sides are the same."
Simpletons like this don't pay attention.mg33 - This is so stupid.palimpsest
- How do you know so much about neo-nazi's voting preferences?monNom
- Examples are well-documented that leaders and supporters of this movement support Republicans. You can read all about it. Need to go deeper than FB/Twnb
- Personally, I’m interested by the behavior because it doesn’t really make logical sense (similar to most racist ideals which are illogical)nb
- I can’t find an example of a neo-nazi verbally supporting or showing up at Democrat rally in support. Change my mind, if you find new datanb
- I looked at the data.
Your deduction is on point.
Tip top logic.
I stand corrected.palimpsest
- dbloc0
- Should be obvious when looking at the resultinv
- Mo would could miss that head...a dead give away.utopian
- Chuck was busy down ol' Mexico way killing immigrants.face_melter
