Who is a genius?
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- stem0
For making a pile of wall (not worth much money) into something of great value.
That is the great 'trick' of art (and indeed graphics/design etc.). How do you get you client to buy your work? - You take something which has no value - i.e a blank canvas and you 'give it value' by putting 'your mark' on it. Then it is worth something to someone.
How much your work is worth depends on how much value is attached to it.
- So that is what art is reduced to? Selling techniques?********
- What else has it ever been about?stem
- You figure it out.********
- Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?stem
- I don't think so.********
- honestly I don't.********
- Good art is learning, not self-satisfaction. It's a path, not a democracy. If this is not true then Art is useless.********
- same old quarrel: stoicism vs epicureanism.********
- [grabs a book]...[pops popcorn]********
- oh the morality!Pupsipu
- So that is what art is reduced to? Selling techniques?
- CALLES0
i am the most humble person in the entire universe
- ********0
I think the word "genius" cannot be applied to visual arts without some very conspicuous dose of snobbery and pretence. It's just not in the nature of the craft itself to make such leaps in knowledge or techniques as the word "genius" implies. "Ingenious" would be as far as I would go.
- Morning_star0
I get your point Stem but there is a chasm of difference between value and cost. Value is driven by market perception and personal need and a great PR firm can manipulate both. Whilst Banksy is undoubtedly an important artist he is no more or less a Genius than hundreds of other artists making their mark.
- stem0
So why isn't their work as 'valued' as Banksy's
- gramme0
I stink, therefore I scam.
- gramme0
I slump, therefore I'm glam.
- waterhouse0
Thomas Jefferson
I don't even think I have to explain but to say that he absorbed and excelled at everything that interested him.
- gramme0
I drink, therefore I
WHAM
- gramme0
The guy who developed the theory of everything seems like a bright fella.
- Llyod0
everyone's a genius blah blah blah
- Mimio0
Edwin Hubble
- ********0
All of this was predicted by the ancient Greeks.
- robco0
this guy
- robco0
and this guy.
- Mimio0
Travolta
- ********0
Just imagine where we would be know, if it weren't for 2000 years of middle-east religious expansionism. Human knowledge has hardly 4000 years - 2000 thousand of those were dominated by a non-pagan religion, which allows no individuality but the dissolution of the Self in the Mass, hierarchies and sullen respect. I have nothing about religion itself (belief), but I was never too fond of mass production. Even so, even during the hardiest years of Messianic religions, humans have produced great works of thought and reasoning. So there's really no need for revision.
- ********0
On the other hand, it was precisely those same 2000 years that structured a bunch of road-side of blood-seeking morons into what we are now. So this is really a dead end.
- ********0
So here's my point: we are the circumstances of History. Art should be the difference between our present circumstances and what should really have happened. That's why we crack jokes all the time and humour is probably the highest form of Art.
- From an epicurean point of view, that is.********
- LOLCats is the highest form of humorPupsipu
- From an epicurean point of view, that is.
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