ADC Young Guns 7
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- Orbit0
Gramme is okay by me. He just had a momentary lapse of judgement here and has acknowledged it. Anyone who comes on here under the cloak of anonymity to sling mud LONG after the discussion has been wound up obviously has some emotional issues that need attention.
So I wish you well Nostradamus. I hope you get over yourself soon.
- _salisae_0
Oh that is a shame, gramme. Old gun just doesn't have the same ring.
- also, just curious, what's the point in promoting yourself in a room full of hungry designers?_salisae_
- Good question. I get the occasional query from an agency about helping with their project overflow.gramme
- Emphasis on "occasionally," as in two or three queries. No actual work yet.gramme
- So maybe it's not worth the hassle after all.gramme
- gramme0
haha @ skt. Seriously though, don't sell yourself short. You steered me away from a couple bad ideas re: my website, and offered some great design input, for which I remain grateful. I hope we have the chance to work together again.
Nostradamus, that is indeed very brave of you to say behind a pseudonym. I'd be very keen to hear who you know who's worked with me, and how in particular they found me to be an asshole. I ask because until I lost my job in February, I got along very well with all of my coworkers, clients, and vendors. I never yelled at anyone, stiffed anyone, nor did I ever engage in a power play. Sure I have my share of shortcomings, as partially evidence in this thread. I fully realize it wasn't a smart idea for me to publicly announce my frustrations with my former employer. But if you go back and read that thread, I didn't say anything disparaging about them; I was actually complimentary. My issue was that I simply wasn't making enough money there, and that there was very little room for growth. Nothing against them there, it's just the smaller studio model which works fine for them.
That thread was really standard boilerplate stuff one sees around here, where people get the itch and decide to start looking for a new gig. But as many know, I was one of the rare ones who got snooped, and then preemptively axed. There was no litany of problem which led up to my demise. I was doing good work, on brief and on time. Clients were happy. Things were good between me and the boss. Then I opened my fat mouth on QBN and all the good will abruptly ceased.
In short, I call bullshit. You simply don't like me (I suppose this goes at least as far back to our many discussions in various religious threads) and are reaching for baseless grounds to sling mud at me.
- FredMcWoozy0
This is better.
- gramme0
Enlighten me, francoisfido. Why should I believe you?
- I'll grant that I often take myself too seriously, but that's different.gramme
- the work stands in;conservative, conventional, tedious, amongst other adjectives your work fails to inspire within mefrancoisfido
- not crediting the standards of the ADC here--only commenting on a general un-eventfulness which runs through your outputfrancoisfido
- actually; i think you two deserve each other.francoisfido
- he says that to all the girlsprevious
- stewdio0
@wordsinyourmouth3 I can sympathize: I don't produce print work either. As for Young Guns, on a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate the success of your protest thus far?
- previous0
I tried to give skt credit for my website but he didn't want it
- Orbit0
Wow.
I think you are way out on a limb here Gramme.
To condemn an award as being cliquey and biased just because you didn't get selected is, well, a bit arrogant isn't it?
You applied for it, so it must mean something to you. You didn't get selected, and you are clearly smarting about that.
If you had been selected as you had obviously hoped to be, would that say good things about you or bad things about you, in light of your emergent opinion of the award?
If you had been selected, and everybody here commented that it was just a biased cliquey chums network, how would you have felt about that?
- 7point340
skt designed my website and i never made it into young guns either...
hmmm
- Greedo0
Gramme, let's face it, frankie doesn't come on here every day to tell us how amazingly polished his turds are. You do. You are a pompous cock who thinks every business card you produce is worthy of a hushed round of admiration, and are a relentless self promoter. This might be a fine quality for the big ego cock-size comparison type of business you aspire to, just be aware that most other people will behold you as a distasteful twat.
- stewdio0
("w00t" as in, I made it.)
- Douglas0
I looked through them all yesterday. A handful are awesome, but a lot felt like good student work.
- showpony0
yeah, very student driven.
- previous0
you don't think old gun has a nice ring? oh well
- haven't you heard the news?neue75_bold
- unfortunately, I haveprevious
- down here they all float7point34
- francoisfido0
yes, fuck school.
- identity0
Im a fan of Mario Hugo and Sam Webber - Ill need to take some more time and look through the winners, but Im happy for all of em :-)