client wants files-argh
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- alicetheblue
Client wants files for web site to give to his "web" friend. Its a swf mov. The fla. has lots of AS - that I sweated over – and I hate to part with it. :(
what's the normal policy here - if there is one?
Should I just grow up and hand it over?
- Mimio0
I vote an unqualified "no."
- free_0
did he pay you yet?
- yesalicetheblue
- i'd give it to the client to avoid a headache. a friend was taken to court over something like this, he won, but it was still a big pain in the ass.free_
- ...in....in what? Where? Where was the pain in?Peter
- version30
what's the contract say?
- I just billed him - no contract
(friend of a friend, thing)alicetheblue - NO CONTRACT? = No HELP FROM QBN.OSFA
- If there's no contract -- YOU OWN THE FILES. It's up to you if you want to give them to him.Josev
- I just billed him - no contract
- zenmasterfoo0
If he's paid for the work, then give it up. Some times it sucks, but you have to not look at your work like it's your child.
- scarabin0
add a clause to your contract, NOW before it happens again.
good luck on your decision
- plash0
tell them you more then happy to provide source materal but it is an extra so and so. you need to outline fonts/clean scrap/ label layers etc etc
- Corvo20
make a new swf. when it runs, a fy finger appears.
- DeSiard0
If the deal was for a finished file, then I don't see where you have to supply your working files. You can always sell the original files for an added 30-50%.
- zenmasterfoo0
Oh, also make sure if you point to this in your portfolio, anything the public sees should be what you worked on...not the version his friend ass raped.
- designbot0
You got paid right? Who cares if he decides to let his friend ruin it, not your problem. You still have the original work you can use for your portolio if you want to. I would hand it over personally.
- FallowDeer0
it all depends on if you are going to get future work from this client
- if yes then give up the code, if no then they have to pay for it as you delievered what the job was alreadyFallowDeer
- spraycan0
it belongs to him. it's only code, crap.
- You don't ask a chef for the recipe to the meal you just ate.DeSiard
- < what he notedversion3
- is not asking for the how to, just the files. you could get the files form internet toospraycan
- you can't get the AS from a flash file on the interentalicetheblue
- yes you can.spraycan
- how spraycan?alicetheblue
- with a swf decompiler, ex:
http://www.sothink.c…spraycan - u brilliant ... I'm gonna try it out!alicetheblue
- it's pretty good, anyway try to keep your file ;)spraycan
- alicetheblue0
I did his entire branding.
The site was all mine from concept - design, photography (friend helped), retouching, coding and uploading
- harlequino0
You need to have clear language in your contract that addresses this about transfer fees and so on. If you don't already, then you need to decide how big of a fight you want to have with this client. You're probably better off giving it to him and letting it go.
Everyone has a "web friend." That very rarely translates to "professional level AS3 developer." I wouldn't worry about it as long as you've been paid for the gig.- yeah - in future I will always have a contract and not undersell self
for a friend - lesson learnedalicetheblue
- yeah - in future I will always have a contract and not undersell self
- plash0
Action Script can be treated as intellectual property. code can definitely be held as trade secrets or a company asset. so you may want to look over at your code and put on value on it. see if you're willing to part.
- Corvo20
It's not the same thing as asking the chef for the recipe, but I'm not sure also those chunks of code which you develop yourself (instead of assorting some snippets from the web) are not the subject of some proprietary work. I mean, if a client were to ask Hi-Res! for their tricks, what would they say?
- grunttt0
- go to his house with a CD in hand
- set his dog on fire
- (you) "oh shit dude!!! you're dog is on fire!!!!"
- put CD in your pocket
- leave.
- Later he'll be like (him) "man that was crazy the other day huh?"
- (you) "Fo' Reeeelz"
- (him) "I remember you had the CD but after all the commotion I can't seem to find it"
- (you) "I put it on a table beside a book and something else, maybe a vase, I want to say it was a blue vase, but it might have been a blue book. Don't remember exactly. I just remember putting the CD down on something at your house."
- (him) "don't see it"
- (you) "no shit?"
- (him) "seriously"
- (you) "hmmm, weird."
- (him) "so do you think you could just burn another CD for me?"
- (you) "I could yeah, but it would be huge pain in my ass. But I guess I could. For you."
- go to his house with a CD in hand
- set his cat on fire...- thanks for the laugh ...alicetheblue
- thanks for the note commentMilan
- CGN0
If he paid for it. You can probably charge an extra fee for raw files if you put that in the contract before hand...?
- doesnotexist0
this is tricky. I have no problem giving them my programmer's files and his photoshop files or whatever, but I never give him the boards I give to my programmer that are made in illustrator. only PDF presentations.
- come to think of it though I have given them illustrator files for their programmers. ha!doesnotexist
- colab0
Tell them that you cannot warranty the work once someone else touches it.