BP oil spill
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- lowimpakt0
- I am fascinated by giant machines like this.mg33
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- ukit0
That Chevron situation is still ongoing right?
- TheBlueOne0
@deathboy & other usual Politic thread libertarians: Sorry, if BP goes bust as a result of LEGITIMATE claims, the Free Market system you crow as naseum about has worked properly. The assets and workers will go to better operators, period. The problem with BP is that its rich dividend led many to buy it for yield and mistakenly regard it as a safe investment, when equity based on drilling in hazardous conditions is risk capital. Again RISK capital.
Of course, if you want to argue that BP should be protected from all the greedy, evil fisherman, tourist businesses, waterfront landowners and general environmental damage and cleanup costs they just incurred...why that smacks of...well it begins with a "s" and ends in an "-ism".
- im not a libertarian. i fall more along the non party affiliation.********
- and a free market system doesnt exist if a gov controls it, thats simplys a fasc or social ism.********
- i beleive all grievances shall be taken up with the jsutice system just hopefully done rationally********
- and i never said once they shouldnt be held accountable. but what extent and how its handle i commented on. youre an idiot********
- not very smart.********
- im not a libertarian. i fall more along the non party affiliation.
- lowimpakt0
it's all about externalities.
- something which libertarians don't comprehendlowimpakt
- yupTheBlueOne
- +1 for the left economics********
- benfal990
BP oil leak LIVE:
http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_…
- TheBlueOne0
Jesus...if you don't want to be depressed, don't read this comment over at the Oil Drum:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6…
Yes, it's long. It has big scientific words in it. And it seems plausible and really, really fucking bad if correct. Fuck.
- ...and the comments are just as bad...one of the ROVs is monitoring oil seeping through the floor?!WrappedInBooks
- trooperbill0
love hoe theres outrage at this british company but the regulations, platforms owner and well head that went faulty were american...
it was an ACCIDENT ffs
- L-O-L. hahahahaha. ROFL.********
- FSS .It was no accident. The reports of cut corners and neglect is massive!!ETM
- L-O-L. hahahahaha. ROFL.
- TheBlueOne0
"it was an ACCIDENT ffs"
Same way drunk driving is an "accident".
- if the government says you can only drive drunk.. yeahtrooperbill
- Sure thing pal.TheBlueOne
- Did the government make them drill in mile deep water? I missed that law.TheBlueOne
- Iggyboo0
"All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn't any "cap dome" or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?....is the only real chance we have left to stop it all." If that guy is right I can't see one how BP will be a company but more importantly how fucked our ocean would be. Lets hope those guys at theoildrum.com are just being nuts.
- PonyBoy0
Looks like they're going to give Costner's brother's deal a shot:
- "BP has purchased 32 of his machines and is testing them now in the hopes of getting them to the spill site soon."PonyBoy
- Fuck, why not at this point.TheBlueOne
- I'd revive Christopher Reeves corpse and put it into orbit backwards around the earth if it would help/TheBlueOne
- ukit0
Why are we even turning it into a nationalistic issue to begin with?
I mean, yes, it maybe will hurt the British economy a bit because BP is a part of the market over there. But what happens, happens, and it's not like the things U.S. officials are saying is going to change that one way or the other. What the market is reacting to is BP's inability to stop the spill.
- PonyBoy0
I am a little confused as to why the U.S. is going to shutdown offshore drilling in the gulf... ... but Vietnam... China (both in conjunction w/Cuba) are still keeping at it...
... that and Brazil (w/U.S. money involved) is still going forward off their shores...
... shouldn't this be an international 'wake-up'?... ... or is it just the U.S. that needs to wake up - everyone else is okay w/their status quo... ?
*confused
- Iggyboo0
It is a national issue because if this thing gets much worse its going to wreck not only our resources, its going to wreck a number of nations in the gulf's resources and livelihoods. Worse than that who knows what it will mean to the world'e ecosystems that are dependent upon fish and food from this area. I am not going all dooms day or nothing but it is just a cluster fuck of massive proportions and the same people Skewering BP on the political level who albeit were lied to, ate the lies about safety and then allowed these companies to dig deep water oil wells on American shores. This is not happening outside of America's waters this is like a few hundred miles off-shore. I think many of the politicians who agreed to offshore drilling need to be outed and skewered just as much as BP and all these other corporate greed based companies. And lets face it who's using the most gasoline in the world right now? American military, for wars in several nations right now. I mean that's just a fact. And I am not trying to sound anti patriotic but it's quite a national fuck-up to allow this to happen to our shores with ill prepared companies. This is unfortunately quite national of an issue. Lets hope "they" meaning our government and those financially responsible fix it fast. Also I don't care to hear Obama say repeatedly that the gulf will be amazing in the future, I am not voting for you right now we don't need a "Hope" speech we need a " Get the shit stopped or otherwise..." speech. But that's just my opinion.
- ukit0
Maybe before jumping to conclusions you should look and see what the situation actually was? Sure, the government should have had better regulations in place but the reason they don't is because of the oil companies. The government isn't going to dream up lax regulations just for the fun of it, it happens because their oil company buddies lobby for them.
Perfect example:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB…
As BP PLC defended its handling of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, documents show it argued against new, stricter safety rules proposed last year by the U.S. agency that oversees offshore drilling.
The British oil giant was one of several companies that wrote to the U.S. Minerals Management Service this past September saying additional regulation of the oil industry was unnecessary. In a letter, BP said the current voluntary system of safety procedures was adequate.
In a letter published on the U.S. government Web site Regulations.gov, Richard Morrison, BP's vice president for Gulf of Mexico production, wrote that while BP "is supportive of companies having a system in place to reduce risk, accidents, injuries and spills, we are not supportive of the extensive, prescriptive regulations as proposed in this rule."
He added: "We believe the industry's current safety and environmental statistics demonstrate that the voluntary programs..have been and continue to be very successful."
Mr. Morrison noted that BP had already adopted policies that complied with the MMS's proposed new rules. But he challenged the need for companies to file regular audits of their safety programs with the agency, saying that would be "an administrative burden."
- I don't care about tax reform. United States had to "OK" drilling that deep on their shores.Iggyboo
- They did, and as politicians they should have had both sides of the story in their ears to make decisions.Iggyboo
- Therefore who's culpable for the mess everyone who was responsible for it being there from the CEO's down.Iggyboo
- What do you mean, tax reform? The point is that behind every lax regulation is an oil company lobbyist.ukit
- I mean, think about it, there's no incentive for the gov not to put adequate safety in place.ukit
- CALLES0
WTF?!?!?!
BP: Oil containment efforts resume after ship fire
HOUSTON – A drill ship resumed siphoning off oil gushing from a blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday after a bolt of lightning struck the vessel and ignited a fire that halted containment efforts, the company said.
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- 420 is the birthday of the spillCALLES
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