iPhone 4: anyone sending theirs back?

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  • raf0

    As much as I find Gruber annoying... http://daringfireball.net/2010/0…

  • kpl0

    Is it too late to point out that the design was not a massive fuckup? Engadget and Anandtech both say the reception is generally better and transfer speeds are faster with Anandtech doing actual testing and research.

  • Atkinson0

    what a cop out excuse... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/techn…

  • wrong0

    wait, so . . . they are displaying 2 too many bars. In the case that you are showing 5 bars and you drop to 1 . . . how does this make any sense? if they are showing 2 too many, and you are in a weak area showing 5 bars (actually 3) and you drop to 1, you should be displaying . . . . . 3 bars.

  • JSK0

    I have got no issues.

  • ESKEMA0

    Letter from Apple Regarding iPhone 4

    Dear iPhone 4 Users,

    The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple’s history. It has been judged by reviewers around the world to be the best smartphone ever, and users have told us that they love it. So we were surprised when we read reports of reception problems, and we immediately began investigating them. Here is what we have learned.

    To start with, gripping almost any mobile phone in certain ways will reduce its reception by 1 or more bars. This is true of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, as well as many Droid, Nokia and RIM phones. But some users have reported that iPhone 4 can drop 4 or 5 bars when tightly held in a way which covers the black strip in the lower left corner of the metal band. This is a far bigger drop than normal, and as a result some have accused the iPhone 4 of having a faulty antenna design.

    At the same time, we continue to read articles and receive hundreds of emails from users saying that iPhone 4 reception is better than the iPhone 3GS. They are delighted. This matches our own experience and testing. What can explain all of this?

    We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising.

    Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don’t know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.

    To fix this, we are adopting AT&T’s recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone’s bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.

    We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.

    We have gone back to our labs and retested everything, and the results are the same— the iPhone 4’s wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. For the vast majority of users who have not been troubled by this issue, this software update will only make your bars more accurate. For those who have had concerns, we apologize for any anxiety we may have caused.

    As a reminder, if you are not fully satisfied, you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.

    We hope you love the iPhone 4 as much as we do.

    Thank you for your patience and support.

    Apple

    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/…

    discuss

  • ESKEMA0

    Letter from Apple Regarding iPhone 4

    Dear iPhone 4 Users,

    The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple’s history. It has been judged by reviewers around the world to be the best smartphone ever, and users have told us that they love it. So we were surprised when we read reports of reception problems, and we immediately began investigating them. Here is what we have learned.

    To start with, gripping almost any mobile phone in certain ways will reduce its reception by 1 or more bars. This is true of iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, as well as many Droid, Nokia and RIM phones. But some users have reported that iPhone 4 can drop 4 or 5 bars when tightly held in a way which covers the black strip in the lower left corner of the metal band. This is a far bigger drop than normal, and as a result some have accused the iPhone 4 of having a faulty antenna design.

    At the same time, we continue to read articles and receive hundreds of emails from users saying that iPhone 4 reception is better than the iPhone 3GS. They are delighted. This matches our own experience and testing. What can explain all of this?

    We have discovered the cause of this dramatic drop in bars, and it is both simple and surprising.

    Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don’t know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.

    To fix this, we are adopting AT&T’s recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone’s bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.

    We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.

    We have gone back to our labs and retested everything, and the results are the same— the iPhone 4’s wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. For the vast majority of users who have not been troubled by this issue, this software update will only make your bars more accurate. For those who have had concerns, we apologize for any anxiety we may have caused.

    As a reminder, if you are not fully satisfied, you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.

    We hope you love the iPhone 4 as much as we do.

    Thank you for your patience and support.

    Apple

    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/…

    discuss

    • Every product they launch is the most succesful product ever.....georgesIII
  • Kidswift0

    I love this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/techn… so essentially its the fault of us misrepresenting the actual signal and your in a low coverage area its really got nothing to do with closing the circuit on the antena is a massive design fuck up on our behalf. I mean ffs when your wrong your wrong just put your had up apple and quit with this bullshit

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  • pavlov0

    i have some friends who have the new iphone and we tested out the death grip. there was no serious problem with the antenna... lost 1 or 2 bars but that was it.

  • ETM0

    There's no way this didn't come up in testing. Was it a case of them saying "well, we're too far along to fix it now, but they'll buy it anyway"

    • they had those incognito 3G-esque cases when testing "in the wild"MSTRPLN
  • raf0

    1st gen or 4th gen... call it what you want. It is the first revision of a new model. They're always a risk, regardless of who made them — but people never learn.

  • Miguex0

    • I don't get it.dbloc
    • they're holding it wrong according to jobsTheMagicSheep
    • facetime doesn't use cell networks. thanks for playing tho.kpl
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  • dbloc0

    1. Keep all of the positioning statements in the BN handy -- your tone when delivering this information is important.

    a. The iPhone 4's wireless performance is the best we have ever shipped. Our testing shows that iPhone 4's overall antenna performance is better than iPhone 3GS.

    b. Gripping almost any mobile phone in certain places will reduce its reception. This is true of the iPhone 4, the iPhone 3GS, and many other phones we have tested. It is a fact of life in the wireless world.

    c. If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 3GS, avoid covering the bottom-right side with your hand.

    d. If you are experiencing this on your iPhone 4, avoid covering the black strip in the lower-left corner of the metal band.

    e. The use of a case or Bumper that is made out of rubber or plastic may improve wireless performance by keeping your hand from directly covering these areas.

    2. Do not perform warranty service. Use the positioning above for any customer questions or concerns.

    3. Don't forget YOU STILL NEED to probe and troubleshoot. If a customer calls about their reception while the phone is sitting on a table (not being held) it is not the metal band.

    4. ONLY escalate if the issue exists when the phone is not held AND you cannot resolve it.

    5. We ARE NOT appeasing customers with free bumpers -- DON'T promise a free bumper to customers.

    • hahahahahaMiguex
    • you laugh, but this is realbriareos
    • bhahahahahahahaahaha...
      you guys are killing me today
      Miguex
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  • Miguex0

    bwhahahahahahahahahaahaha

  • October0

    to those who said never buy a first gen, thats bullshit. this is really 4th gen, new design or not. if the unibody design on macbook pros were causing problems, you cant say its a first gen thing. its a design flaw which is exactly what this is on the new iphone.

  • ideaist0