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  • 74LEO0

    Is Michael Moore's website down?

    • prob this "I am publicly offering the assistance of my website, my servers, my domain names and anything else I can do to keep WikiLeaks alive"instrmntl
    • no...stop spreading more down website rumorsDodecahedron
    • it was when i checked74LEO
  • ideaist0

    Why I'm Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange (A statement from Michael Moore)

    Tuesday, December 14th, 2010

    Friends,

    Yesterday, in the Westminster Magistrates Court in London, the lawyers for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange presented to the judge a document from me stating that I have put up $20,000 of my own money to help bail Mr. Assange out of jail.

    Furthermore, I am publicly offering the assistance of my website, my servers, my domain names and anything else I can do to keep WikiLeaks alive and thriving as it continues its work to expose the crimes that were concocted in secret and carried out in our name and with our tax dollars.

    We were taken to war in Iraq on a lie. Hundreds of thousands are now dead. Just imagine if the men who planned this war crime back in 2002 had had a WikiLeaks to deal with. They might not have been able to pull it off. The only reason they thought they could get away with it was because they had a guaranteed cloak of secrecy. That guarantee has now been ripped from them, and I hope they are never able to operate in secret again.

    So why is WikiLeaks, after performing such an important public service, under such vicious attack? Because they have outed and embarrassed those who have covered up the truth. The assault on them has been over the top:

    **Sen. Joe Lieberman says WikiLeaks "has violated the Espionage Act."

    **The New Yorker's George Packer calls Assange "super-secretive, thin-skinned, [and] megalomaniacal."

    **Sarah Palin claims he's "an anti-American operative with blood on his hands" whom we should pursue "with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders."

    **Democrat Bob Beckel (Walter Mondale's 1984 campaign manager) said about Assange on Fox: "A dead man can't leak stuff ... there's only one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch."

    **Republican Mary Matalin says "he's a psychopath, a sociopath ... He's a terrorist."

    **Rep. Peter A. King calls WikiLeaks a "terrorist organization."

    And indeed they are! They exist to terrorize the liars and warmongers who have brought ruin to our nation and to others. Perhaps the next war won't be so easy because the tables have been turned -- and now it's Big Brother who's being watched ... by us!

    WikiLeaks deserves our thanks for shining a huge spotlight on all this. But some in the corporate-owned press have dismissed the importance of WikiLeaks ("they've released little that's new!") or have painted them as simple anarchists ("WikiLeaks just releases everything without any editorial control!"). WikiLeaks exists, in part, because the mainstream media has failed to live up to its responsibility. The corporate owners have decimated newsrooms, making it impossible for good journalists to do their job. There's no time or money anymore for investigative journalism. Simply put, investors don't want those stories exposed. They like their secrets kept ... as secrets.

    I ask you to imagine how much different our world would be if WikiLeaks had existed 10 years ago. Take a look at this photo. That's Mr. Bush about to be handed a "secret" document on August 6th, 2001. Its heading read: "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US." And on those pages it said the FBI had discovered "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings." Mr. Bush decided to ignore it and went fishing for the next four weeks.

    But if that document had been leaked, how would you or I have reacted? What would Congress or the FAA have done? Was there not a greater chance that someone, somewhere would have done something if all of us knew about bin Laden's impending attack using hijacked planes?

    But back then only a few people had access to that document. Because the secret was kept, a flight school instructor in San Diego who noticed that two Saudi students took no interest in takeoffs or landings, did nothing. Had he read about the bin Laden threat in the paper, might he have called the FBI? (Please read this essay by former FBI Agent Coleen Rowley, Time's 2002 co-Person of the Year, about her belief that had WikiLeaks been around in 2001, 9/11 might have been prevented.)

    Or what if the public in 2003 had been able to read "secret" memos from Dick Cheney as he pressured the CIA to give him the "facts" he wanted in order to build his false case for war? If a WikiLeaks had revealed at that time that there were, in fact, no weapons of mass destruction, do you think that the war would have been launched -- or rather, wouldn't there have been calls for Cheney's arrest?

    Openness, transparency -- these are among the few weapons the citizenry has to protect itself from the powerful and the corrupt. What if within days of August 4th, 1964 -- after the Pentagon had made up the lie that our ship was attacked by the North Vietnamese in the Gulf of Tonkin -- there had been a WikiLeaks to tell the American people that the whole thing was made up? I guess 58,000 of our soldiers (and 2 million Vietnamese) might be alive today.

    Instead, secrets killed them.

    For those of you who think it's wrong to support Julian Assange because of the sexual assault allegations he's being held for, all I ask is that you not be naive about how the government works when it decides to go after its prey. Please -- never, ever believe the "official story." And regardless of Assange's guilt or innocence (see the strange nature of the allegations here), this man has the right to have bail posted and to defend himself. I have joined with filmmakers Ken Loach and John Pilger and writer Jemima Khan in putting up the bail money -- and we hope the judge will accept this and grant his release today.

    Might WikiLeaks cause some unintended harm to diplomatic negotiations and U.S. interests around the world? Perhaps. But that's the price you pay when you and your government take us into a war based on a lie. Your punishment for misbehaving is that someone has to turn on all the lights in the room so that we can see what you're up to. You simply can't be trusted. So every cable, every email you write is now fair game. Sorry, but you brought this upon yourself. No one can hide from the truth now. No one can plot the next Big Lie if they know that they might be exposed.

    And that is the best thing that WikiLeaks has done. WikiLeaks, God bless them, will save lives as a result of their actions. And any of you who join me in supporting them are committing a true act of patriotism. Period.

    I stand today in absentia with Julian Assange in London and I ask the judge to grant him his release. I am willing to guarantee his return to court with the bail money I have wired to said court. I will not allow this injustice to continue unchallenged.

    Yours,
    Michael Moore

    MichaelMoore.com

    P.S. You can read the statement I filed today in the London court here.

    P.P.S. If you're reading this in London, please go support Julian Assange and WikiLeaks at a demonstration at 1 PM today, Tuesday the 14th, in front of the Westminster court.

    • A good read 74LEO...ideaist
    • Pretty great global liberal versus conservative battle royale brewing...ideaist
    • thanks. is his website being attacked by CIA?74LEO
    • Possibly... I emailed him a "good hustle" message... I grew up about an hour from him...ideaist
    • (in Canada) ; )ideaist
    • haven't you Americans learned how not to turn every political issue into a bi-partisan shit throwing fit?Dodecahedron
  • dMullins0

    I can't wait for this shit to blow up. It has only been bubblin' so far...

  • dMullins0

    Also, I haven't been reading news the last few weeks (too slammed with work). What is Obama's stance on all of this? Just curious...

    • I think he's simply stated that he's "concerned"... Nice passive approach to it...ideaist
    • Finally Americans are waking up and realizing that the republicons & democraps are really the same.74LEO
    • True change only comes drastically and is non political...ideaist
    • agree @ ideaist. The Revolution will come for Self-Preservation74LEO
    • why do you care what a puppet thinks?Dodecahedron
  • nb0

    http://www.time.com/time/covers/…

    Is this a hack? The smaller image showed me Sarah Palin on the cover. Clicking to enlarge gave me this.

    • < Time Magazine Cover Story, Dec 20, 2010.nb
    • ... or just a glitch?nb
  • Dodecahedron0

    Times Mag is all over the place. He was removed from the list last week and I've found lists on the site where he is no where to be found but then I'd refresh or link from another part of the site and all of a sudden he's back on the list and winning. Now he won so I have no idea what they are doing.

  • VelocityFade0

    I wish people like Micheal Moore would keep their fat ass out of it. I'm sure he has good intentions and stuff but really he should mind his own business, its just turning into a media farce now. Apparently all the celebs looking for attention were putting up bail.

    • Did you even read what he wrote? I'm not a MM fan but you can't NOT agree with him. He's 100% correct.kona
    • no he's like 60% correct and 40% personal political agendaVelocityFade
    • Its like al gore on global warming. what he's saying isn't wrong its just a big STFU you media whoring dickheadVelocityFade
    • All he did was quote american politicians and call him a patriot...a patriot to what? if you can't commit treason how can he be a patriot?VelocityFade
    • ...how can you be a patriot? Its obviously a highly international situation but MM doesn't recognize this for some reasonVelocityFade
    • Its all about the american political agenda he pushes. Whther its right or wrong its an agenda and i think its inappropriateVelocityFade
    • ...inappropriateVelocityFade
    • His point about vietnam is apt yet totally besides the point in a letter about posting bailVelocityFade
    • dude stfuMaaku
    • thats what I said...and I'm not a dudeVelocityFade
    • interesting...Maaku
  • instrmntl0

    Just watched this and can't think of a better time to do so:

    The Most Dangerous Man in America
    http://allmovie.com/work/the-mos…

    • In 1971, Daniel Ellsberg, a top military strategist working for the RAND Corporation, leaked a 7,000 page document known as the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times...instrmntl
    • In 1971, Daniel Ellsberg, a top military strategist working for the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times...instrmntl
  • dopepope0

    Watch, everyone is so worried and taking Wikileaks so seriously now, but they're all gonna feel like retards when they dump UFO documents on there revealing alien visitations and shit. Then all of a sudden he'll be a tin foil hat head and the sites credibility goes down the drain.

    • nah, so far they haven't revealed real top secret things. I'm sure it will be a bs like, UFO are actually advanced weather balloonsgeorgesIII
    • Julian Assange said himself they had documents related to UFOs/aliens that would be revealed eventually.Dodecahedron
    • not sure it'll effect their credibility or notDodecahedron
    • I'm looking forward to those!dopepope
    • He actually said that he hasn't seen anything that would convince him of UFOs.Ranger
    • I heard him say specifically they had documents related to UFos and aliens regardless of if it proved anythingDodecahedron
  • georgesIII0

    wikiface

  • _niko0

    Air force banning employees from reading New York Times.

    Soon they'll ban them from reading anything all together.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/i…

    • no fucking way. available to the general public ... but air force isn't general public, i guess.pizzafire
    • wow the military arn't allowed reading propaganda...end is nighDodecahedron
  • _niko0

    In Soviet Russia we had two channels,
    Channel 1 was propaganda channel
    Channel 2 was kgb saying "turn back to Channel 1"

    Funny, the US might not be far off of this in the near future.

  • SteveJobs0

    i personally it *could* be good that the air force and potentially other government factions are blocking these sites and prohibiting the military and other special forces from reading this information.

    i think it's good, because it *should* be an eye-opener for those who unquestioningly follow their leadership and perhaps have never really considered what freedom really means for them.

    now if this were imposed on civilians, then we'd have some serious issues, but thankfully that's not yet the case..

    • thanks Steve. So iphone6 flash enabled?74LEO
    • haha, no flash for you!SteveJobs
    • The Air Forec is consistently the asshats of the US armed forces. Seriously dumb motherfuckers..TheBlueOne
    • It's Marines, Navy, Army, COast Guard, National Guard THEN Air Force when it comes to smarts.TheBlueOne
  • abettertomorrow0

    This legal situation in London is getting more and more surreal. You could question, of course, whether Interpol usually issues a international red alert for a guy wanted on charges of fucking without a condom.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/…

    Now the Swedish prosecutors are apparently saying that it is Britain, and not Sweden, that is insisting on denying bail for him. Apparently this way the Swedes will not need to present evidence of the supposed sex crimes.

  • georgesIII0

    ^
    IT'S A C O N S P I R A C Y
    I dare anyone saying it isn't

    • there's definitely a lot going on behind closed doors in regards to this situation thats for sureDodecahedron
  • prophet0

    how does evelyn salt play into any of this?

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  • digdre0

    He's getting out.

  • mrghost0

    house judiciary hearing live NOW
    http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SP…

  • ETM0

    So, this may have been posted previously (sorry its a long thread to read it all) but the recent US gov intervention and DNS blocking of sites that relate to pirated software and intellectual property violators is likely just a front to easily take down mirror sites for leaked docs, yes?

    • the strange thing is that DoHS is enforcing copyrights on music.mrghost