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- Ramanisky20
LV Police release bodycam footage
- trying not to be disrespectful - but why didn't they have the a mirror or something more sophisticated to look over the wall. Seems crazy low tech.mugwart
- Ramanisky20
Annnnnd Dan Bilzerian just posted the mass shooters death pic on twitter ... thanks asshole.
- how tall is he. he looks so weeGnash
- post it.********
- what do you expect from this guy? when his arms muscles are larger than his brain...OBBTKN
- from where did he get the pic?OBBTKN
- ^ ask omg, he and his little cunt cohorts on /pol/ have been plastering it all over the place.face_melter
- along with losing their tiny minds trying to spin it from being a rando whackjob shooter into a leftwing/anti-Trump terror action.face_melter
- ^ https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- omg just go find his twitter account, its right there near the top of the page.Ramanisky2
- "from where did he get the pic?" x2detritus
- many crime scene photos were leaked - see other pics on this page.fadein11
- https://pbs.twimg.co…********
- 5' 5"utopian
- ^ not surprisedGnash
- lowimpakt0
Why are mass shooters nearly always men?
It's more than a basic mental health narrative
- for the same reason why vast majority of geniuses in history were men too.pr2
- and trolls.fadein11
- also, between 1982 and 2017 more than 54% of mass shooters were white males, next largest group was black people at 16%lowimpakt
- Is it because a lot of them are privileged snowflakes that can't handle rejection, disappointment or 'disrespect'?monoboy
- If Dads spent less time lecturing their sons on how to be 'strong' and more more giving them hugs and support, guns probably wouldn't be an issue.monoboy
- Maybe we could teach boxing and martial arts in schools as a way to understand dominance, strength and respect? Just my opinion but it helps in deprived areas.monoboy
- Also, western society is very competitive. Inequality and a lack of a safety net or empathy makes for a lot of unhappy disgruntled people.monoboy
- Staggeringly, some of whom have access to military grade weapons.monoboy
- whereas in non-western society -- where cooperation, equality and security are the anchors of life -- people live with respect and tolerance of one anotherGnash
- lol pr2 is winning in this threadGuyFawkes
- Yes we get it gnash - you don't like huge swathes of people different to yourself. you are starting to sound like a whiney snowflake triggered over any minorfadein11
- incident that doesn't adhere to your world view.
But always a pleasure reading monoboys posts :)fadein11 - "oh look 2 students are a bit young, silly and OTT and protested... it's political correctness gone mad" :)
You sound like Canada's Daily Mail correspondent!fadein11 - testosterone. makes males crazy. females a far less physically violent in general by nature.CygnusZero4
- That is the most sensible reply CygnusZero4lowimpakt
- "the gender of peace"yuekit
- and when you really think about it, most of the problems are men related. Analyse it.Bennn
- https://www.youtube.…monoboy
- lol, fadein, you lost the plot. only responding it being a "western" issue. clearly, it's not. it's a humans issue, snowflake. don't get so riledGnash
- I look forward to your next triggered post about some silly young students being silly ;)fadein11
- ya, 'cause that's the same thing being discussed here. that myopic worldview you clutch close in your purse is sorta cute in children, not so much grown-ups.Gnash
- If I'm not mistaken, testosterone fades in men as they get older. This guy was what, 64?cotton
- @gnash - I apologise for bringing your triggered posts into this thread, you are right I shouldn't have done that.fadein11
- interesting point cotton.lowimpakt
- i accept your apology at being so triggered by itGnash
- Thanks lol. I'm sure we would be cool in real life.fadein11
- PonyBoy0
this is what PadCock was using on his weapons to make them fire in the style of an automatic... this is 100% btw
so easy even Grandma can fire it (1:05 approx)
- *this is 100% legal btwPonyBoy
- Rose from Golden Girls gets a good chuckle out of it.PhanLo
- Fucking nuts...the only thing that semi automatic and automatic weapons are used for is killing people, period!utopian
- yupGuyFawkes
- Disgrace that anyone can purchase these so easily.BusterBoy
- pretty easy mod for any idiot to create in their own garage... really simple recoil mechanism... plus their other devices diff than this even easier to make :/PonyBoy
- *there are other devices
*drunkPonyBoy
- CygnusZero41
Why does a person who is not in the military need an AR in this country? They dont! They should be banned.
- That all sounds very sensible but, how are people going to protect themselves from all the people with guns?Morning_star
- As a country we are fucked
too many guns too many nutjobs = more mass killings.Ramanisky2 - handguns are really enough for protectionCygnusZero4
- if this guy only had access to handguns he wouldnt have been able to kill 60 ppl from such a safe distanceCygnusZero4
- he would have had to get in much closer, at which point he would have been taken down much faster. ban ARs!CygnusZero4
- government should do a buy back program and get these guns out of this country entirely.CygnusZero4
- @Morning... how to protect from all the people with guns? c'mon, seize all arms and bingo!OBBTKN
- anybody "needs" an assault rifle at home... one small gun for paranoids and readyOBBTKN
- sorry, "nobody needs..."OBBTKN
- Why does a person who is not in professional racing need a high power sports car in this country? They don't! They should be banned.imbecile
- and imbecile uncovers THE argument for owning an AR. Which is, "because I fucking like big guns that make loud bang bang."kona
- Cars are designed to drive (fast or slow), guns are designed to killdmay
- i_monk1
Las Vegas Is Only the Deadliest Shooting in US History Because They Don’t Count Black Lives
- they don't mattermoldero
- https://en.wikipedia…
https://en.wikipedia…bliznutty - basically government has killed larger numbers but they also name it differentlybliznutty
- moldero6
- sickening. absolutely sickening. alex jones a few days ago said the shooter had antifa pamphlets in his hotel room, now he's selling this. unrealkona
- he's throwing gas on an already out of control flame.kona
- Get' em while they are hot!utopian
- this must be art -- he's a living performance piece.Gnash
- dekend? kuck inkowarssarahfailin
- Is this real?PhanLo
- I ask myself that everyday when I consider the conservative populace in this nation.monospaced
- detritus2
"Every Member of Congress Who Took Money From the NRA and Tweeted 'Thoughts and Prayers' to Las Vegas"
- Hayzilla0
People keep banging on about the power of the NRA but the fact of the matter is, 80% of their population want to keep their guns.
- I understand that opinion on handguns but I'm curious to see the chart for semi and automatic rifles.GM278
- Although I have a feeling it would probably be the same. :/GM278
- I wonder if they changed the language to just "semi-automatic gun control and semi-automatic gun bans" if it wouldn't help?ETM
- The American public on a larger scale seems to hate the blanket term "Gun Control" and I can understand why due to the ambiguity.ETM
- You have to start somewhere and this distinction may help get traction for this particular aspect at least.ETM
- I thought this was interesting: https://www.washingt…GM278
- The problem seems the desire, for those on the control side, to implement things on such a large and unworkable scale at once, rather than a piece at a time.ETM
- moldero4
yeah but:
- Background checks are important, but when someone who was once mentally fit or law abiding changes, it's not like someone really knows or takes their guns away.ETM
- background checks at point of purchase is all well and good. But are there any further time based checks on gun owners ...Bluejam
- ... or a system in place to flag unusual activity? This guy spent, what, £20,000* on weapons and ammo and this doesn't get on any bodies radar?Bluejam
- *i know shit about gun costs, just basing this figure on an average of $500 per gun, he had 40Bluejam
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- utopian2
- Every fucking shooting this info comes out... someone please TELL ME what you want to fucking do about it... but thanks for the pretty IGs!PonyBoy
- BANN EVERYTHING!!!!pango
- define 'everything' (2 notes or less)... GO!PonyBoy
- I like to think that if assault rifles were illegal to make, manufacturer or sell... and that all his accessories were too, that it might have been harder to domonospaced
- If the guy HAD to go the through illegal dark channels to get weapons illegally he might have been discouragedmonospaced
- It's quite simply way too ducking easy to build an arwsenal like this. I could do it in a matter of days.monospaced
- Other countries have had successful buy-backs. American's won't part, though. Come a civil war, it'll at least end quickly.formed
- There won't be a civil war. Nothing to really fight over.monospaced
- Ban yo kids, ban yo wife! Ban everything!!pango
- Fax_Benson2
I don't know anything about guns but it seems to me that tighter controls (wrong word) are as much about the message and perception and breaking the link with these episodes as about physically taking guns out of people's hands. That's a point that pro-gun people seem to deliberately gloss over and anti-gun people fail to make strongly enough.
It doesn't look as though this guy just snapped and decided on the spur of the moment to collect and use an arsenal of weapons. When people develop a mental illness / grudge / political motive / revenge fantasy or whatever, they seem to do so at the same time as developing a gun plan because developing a gun plan is viable. It's a legitimate and practical way of making your fantasy real. It allows the person to keep building their narrative because the story arc is so familiar.
I just can't see how you can separate the will from the act when one so inspires the other. I'd agree that tackling the reasons behind why people get to such a mental state are probably more important than gun legislation, but why treat them as totally separate issues?
Somehow you need to legislate with the aim of breaking that link rather than breaking the link between people and their guns. It seems reasonable to not let people buy sleeping pills in quantities large enough to kill them. To not serve alcohol to people who are already clearly intoxicated. To not let people fly kites at airports. The gun issue needs to be put in such common sense terms, because talk of control or restriction immediately shuts some people's brains down.
- tldr; waffleFax_Benson
- nah, makes sensescruffics
- good points well madefadein11
- But see, you make sense. That will not fly in 'Murika. It's the same 'but knives/cars/bombs/to... picks can kill' and 'people kill, not guns'formed
- and the always reliable 'if you let them (govt) take away one right, we'll soon have zero freedom'.formed
- "tackling the reasons behind why people get to such a mental state are probably more important than gun legislation" This nails it for me.Ianbolton
- And as we're in a world of individualism i think it's even harder for governments to even consider how to control or know what's in peoples headsIanbolton
- part of the issue is the times we live in ask for easy and simple solutions.pr2
- scruffics0
if people can still buy guns one way or another after they have been made illegal what the fuck are 2nd Amendment people worried about anyway? ban them and everybody will be happy.
- yuekit2
That whole line of argument is so absurd anyway..."criminals won't follow the law."
So I guess if you follow this to its conclusion nothing should be illegal because some people will break the law.
The funny thing is there's a very good parallel to this when it comes to immigration. I don't think any country in the world has been able to reduce the level of illegal immigration to zero.
No matter how many border guards and walls you put up SOME people will still get across...so therefore there should be no immigration laws according to the same logic.
- there should be no immigration laws for totally different reasonsimbecile
- Gnash-3
the gov't should at least repeal the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. allow victims to sue dealers and manufacturers
- ********-1
NRA > ISIS
NRA is a Terrorist Organization.
- ********0
If you have a hunting gun...well if you have a hunting license and you go hunt...whatever.
Even as a vegetarian I can accept that...But to have an assault rifle and machine guns?
Semi-automatics?
Bazookas?
What for? Seriously, what for?
Those things are not toys...The USA has a cancer and doesn't want treatment...
- They firmly believe that every American has a God given right and a duty to uphold their beliefs with military grade weapons against any form of 'control'.monoboy
- They want to be self-governing through the Christian belief system that underpins the constitution.monoboy
- God tells them to stockpile AR15s.monoboy
- lol @ god ... such confused primatesmonospaced
- lol @ "they"imbecile
- Not my circus, not my monkeys.monoboy
- kona4
Similarly,
Who gives a fuck if North Korea has nukes? Nukes don't kill people, people kill people.
See how fucking stupid that sounds?
- hah . also nukes are actually defense weapons unlike assault riflesBeeswax
- You mean... defense rifles.
lolkona - people quite literally give the reason for owning them as "defense"monospaced
- the military industrial complex hates this!moldero
- The problem is the man behind.ApeRobot
- Education is the key.ApeRobot
- I include parenting.ApeRobot
- Fucking sudafed is regulated
but bullet spraying weapons aren't yeah makes total sense.Ramanisky2 - why should one party have nukes and not the other? because your govt doesn't like their govt? its cool we have them but no to others? lololimbecile
- Educate the mentally ill. Good luck! :DBennn
- lol, start the internet sensation: Nukes are not the problem, people are.sofakingback
- lowimpakt1
classic Fox news scumbaggery
- I set next to that piece of shit from Fox News at a restaurant recently. I really wanted to say something, but he was with his family.monospaced
- Kimmel put him on blast
and it was glorious.Ramanisky2 - There are things called intent and reasoning to understand during investigation processes. Knowing is half the battle.********
- it's not reasonable to think that killing 59 people isn't worthy of hate, thoughmonospaced
- unless you're suggesting that didn't happen, or that it's not worthy of hate, in which case, go fuck yourself to death, thanks :)monospaced
- lol ^Ramanisky2
- but emailsfadein11
- You still don't know WHO you hate, and your heart is filled with lots of hate without reason.********
- You can't have the HOW until you have the WHO.********
- Says the guy that only belongs to this forum to spread hate. Go fuck yourself dip shit.sofakingback
- Says the guy who must have painful memories of butt hurt in his past. Guess which finger I'm holding for you.********
- oh omg you smelly old cockfadein11
- :: thumbs up! ::********
- lol fadein11Ramanisky2
- omg can't hate him because his degenerate mental faculties cannot comprehend that the shooter was a middle-aged white guy.face_melter
- I hate mass murderers, that's for sure. I'm very far from "filled with hate," and I resent your gross assumption there.monospaced
- and btw, there is a WHO. Stephen Paddock. If you don't believe he did this, then you're one sick fuckmonospaced
